Not a roadblock, just an observation. This model encourages contenders to swing for the fences to acquire a really big name expiring contract. Part of the incentive to the team trading away such a player is that the return can be orders of magnitude higher if that team also retains salary. I assume this proposed model removes the requirement for retained salary...?
Marc Savard?
Not a fan of the "Ray Bourque Rule." Best solution I've seen so far is that the game day roster has to be cap compliant in the post season. So you can carry however many players you want, but when you submit your lineup for the game, that lineup has to be under the cap. That way it allows teams to still carry however many players they want, but you can't ice a lineup over the cap.
All this will do is give teams more of an incentive to expoit the rules and circumvent the cap. Also, how doyou figure that all teams are using LTIR to circumvent the cap
The solution is a simple one. Teams must have a lineup that is cap compliant each and every playoff game. Simple and fair. Current situation has to be fixed it has become a joke
I seriously doubt that owners or the NHL likes that idea. The players already have to put a large amount of their salaries into escrow. The reason we have a salary cap and have had a lockout is because of the 50/50 split. That's the hill that the owners will die on. Now they're going to approve more money to the players outside of the system?
This idea has been pitched to owners? Most of them are billionaires who rarely speak to the media. But they took the time to hear your idea. That's pretty cool.
Also, how does this help the NHLPA? So maybe a couple of extra UFAs move to contenders. How would you vote if you were a depth player? Oh great, I fight for 60+ games to stay in the lineup for a top team, but I know they will just add a free UFA like say Marc Savard and bump me out of the lineup for the playoffs. How does that help me?
I’m more radical. Replace the hard cap with a soft cap. Teams are allowed to go over the cap however they are find a percentage which increases with the amount you’re over the cap. This money is distributed to the teams who are in financial trouble to allow them to keep up with the richer teams. Long-term injured reserveWould only be used for players who is season is over including the playoffs. Once a player returns from long-term injured reserve their entire salary is charged against the soft cap. No more loopholes because you can exceed the cap however you have to be willing to pay a surcharge
You can carry as much cap as you want, every game day roster you submit must be cap compliant.
If you are over the allotted cap ceiling for the entire roster pay a tax for each game that goes into some sort of fund. - ImThatGuy
That's not a solution. The cap is in place simply to ensure the 50/50 player split. If more money goes to the players ( spent by the team), how does the team paying a tax help that?
It is not a bad idea and I can see the benefits.
Some other ideas
1) any player playing in the playoffs must have played a minimum of 5 regular season games
2) Or, every team entering the playoffs are entitled to a $2,000,000 salary cap bonus for the postseason only. It may not seem like alot but for those teams, and there are many, that money and space is huge. But that money disappears after the postseason. So, teams would be wise to use UFAS for that money.
Off topic, we all love trades. But IM tired of all the NMC or LNMC contracts. Look, I get it. Players dont want to keep moving their families around. Thats sports boys. It happens. Baseball players have done it for decades. But one change I would love to see, is if a player agrees to waive his clause or asks for a trade, that clause no longer exists moving forward. You can waive it once and thats it. Plus, eliminate the limited no move clause.
Ek, you haven’t talked to anyone. players owners, and gms don’t even know who you are, you’re just a clown to the actual sources and real insiders who you plagiarize off of lol
One of he comments we have seen a lot this year is about how teams have multiple players at any given time who could go from playing a regular shift to LTIR due to pre-existing injuries.
If a player is in this position, well enough to play but at the same time hurt enough for LTIR, you end up with what Vegas has been doing this year after getting Eichel. We can assume that some of the LTIR players they have would be on ice today if the Dadanov trade had gone through. Vegas may miss the playoffs with some great talent on the IR, and I think that is totally fair and shows the system works.
Why should this change for the playoffs? What Ek is suggesting simply creates another stepping stone to hide oversized contracts and give the money teams a way of absorbing more payroll. Stop shifting the target and force the GMs to actually be good at money and player management through the regular season and playoffs.
How about this get rid of the hard cap all together and go with a luxury tax or cap that teams can sign there own drafted players that developed that won't count against the cap up to a certain dollar amount that would universally agreed on by the players and owners.
Just get rid of the LTIR completely and apply cap exemption to all scratched/injured players.
Game day lineups must be compliant in the regular season but cap still goes away in the playoffs. What makes it look wrong is that it’s a loophole in a rule where as if you make it the rule and say to all 32 GM’s feel free to do this if you’d like it will be even playing ground by the book. Also for those that say that the rich teams don’t have enough of an advantage over the poor teams feel free to pay a guy 10 million to sit in the press box until playoffs.
How about this get rid of the hard cap all together and go with a luxury tax or cap that teams can sign there own drafted players that developed that won't count against the cap up to a certain dollar amount that would universally agreed on by the players and owners. - Scott1977
Just get rid of the LTIR completely and apply cap exemption to all scratched/injured players.
Game day lineups must be compliant in the regular season but cap still goes away in the playoffs. What makes it look wrong is that it’s a loophole in a rule where as if you make it the rule and say to all 32 GM’s feel free to do this if you’d like it will be even playing ground by the book. Also for those that say that the rich teams don’t have enough of an advantage over the poor teams feel free to pay a guy 10 million to sit in the press box until playoffs. - RedC21
Would result in millions of extra money paid to the players that is not accounted for on the cap. Would never happen.
It's simple to me. Does anyone believe that Kucherov just all of a sudden came off of LTIR ready for action in the playoffs? No he was healthy before that. A healthy player should be activated off of LTIR immediately. Simply no stashing of a player until the playoffs. If in that situation, you can't activate the player when he is healthy. That player is then deemed ineligible for the playoffs.
