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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 1 @ 9:49 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Kravtsov, the Holmgren-Cashman Gate and More
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 1 @ 9:55 AM ET
Russians scare me
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 1 @ 9:56 AM ET
Russians scare me
- Streit2ThePoint


Aren't you Russian?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 1 @ 9:59 AM ET
Aren't you Russian?
- YuenglingJagr


I'm russian away from russians that's for sure
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 1 @ 10:01 AM ET
Bill, any idea what specifically sparked the brawl?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 1 @ 10:20 AM ET
Bill, any idea what specifically sparked the brawl?
- aightwebang17


Cashman tried to gauge Paul's eyes during a fight on the ice, and it escalated from there.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 1 @ 10:34 AM ET
Cashman tried to gauge Paul's eyes during a fight on the ice, and it escalated from there.
- bmeltzer


Sounds like Tocchet's lucky they had this after he fought Chynoweth...although I think he'd be able to handle himself.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 1 @ 10:49 AM ET
Sounds like Tocchet's lucky they had this after he fought Chynoweth...although I think he'd be able to handle himself.
- jmatchett383


That gate is as legendary as the jail in the Vet...
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 1 @ 10:51 AM ET
The gate had originally been preserved at Xfinity Live at the Spectrum Grille but after the changeover to 1100 Social, the gate was relegated to a pile of stuff designated for recycling or disposal. Brian rescued it and is in temporary custody of it until the Flyers figure out a new, more permanent destination for it.


How does this even happen? Thankfully someone was paying attention.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 1 @ 10:51 AM ET
Bill, any idea what specifically sparked the brawl?
- aightwebang17

Holmgren went to the Garden as a visitor and met Cashman's girlfriend, Helen. He hit it off with her and ended up bringing her back with him when he left town. Upon learning about Helen running off with another man, Cashman vowed to come to the Spectrum, take back Helen, and make Holmgren pay for what he had done.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 1 @ 10:56 AM ET
Holmgren went to the Garden as a visitor and met Cashman's girlfriend, Helen. He hit it off with her and ended up bringing her back with him when he left town. Upon learning about Helen running off with another man, Cashman vowed to come to the Spectrum, take back Helen, and make Holmgren pay for what he had done.
- YuenglingJagr


Didn't he say she was a dyke, and Cashman chased him across the ice?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 1 @ 11:07 AM ET
Funny...I was just googling the topic and a NYDN article from 1996 reports that the gate didn't even work when needed

PHILADELPHIA NHL suspensions seem a virtual guarantee after last night's Flyers-Canadiens game left Philadelphia defenseman Petr Svoboda in Pennsylvania Hospital and two players in hot water for fighting in the hallway outside the locker rooms. Flyers battler Shawn Antoski and Montreal enforcer Donald Brashear engaged in a corridor confrontation after being ordered from the ice at 19:37 of the second period in a game the Flyers won in overtime, 3-2. Eyewitnesses said punches were thrown and landed before security personnel could break up the fracas. Antoski stormed up the hallway from the ice, lumbered down the rubber matting toward the visiting dressing room and yanked open the security gate that had been put in place since the Flyers' Paul Holmgren and Bruins' Wayne Cashman did hallway battle here years ago. The gate is designed to deter exactly such incidents, but it was of no effect as tempers raged after the Svoboda injury.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 1 @ 11:08 AM ET
I guess that was after the Marc Bureau hit....
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 1 @ 11:10 AM ET
Holmgren went to the Garden as a visitor and met Cashman's girlfriend, Helen. He hit it off with her and ended up bringing her back with him when he left town. Upon learning about Helen running off with another man, Cashman vowed to come to the Spectrum, take back Helen, and make Holmgren pay for what he had done.
- YuenglingJagr


So Cashman gathered a fleet of 1000 cars, and they made their way to the edge of the Schuylkill River where Cashman demanded the return of his wife, or he vowed to burn the Spectrum to the ground. He brought with him many great warriors, such as Terry O'Reilly and Stan Jonathan. He also brought Mike Milbury with him. But after being unable to breach the walls of the Spectrum, the defeated Bostonians got back into their assorted vehicles and departed, never to return.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 1 @ 11:12 AM ET
Funny...I was just googling the topic and a NYDN article from 1996 reports that the gate didn't even work when needed
- YuenglingJagr


I always liked Antoski, but going after a guy Brashear's size off the ice seems like mandess. Props to him.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 1 @ 11:26 AM ET
So Cashman gathered a fleet of 1000 cars, and they made their way to the edge of the Schuylkill River where Cashman demanded the return of his wife, or he vowed to burn the Spectrum to the ground. He brought with him many great warriors, such as Terry O'Reilly and Stan Jonathan. He also brought Mike Milbury with him. But after being unable to breach the walls of the Spectrum, the defeated Bostonians got back into their assorted vehicles and departed, never to return.
- jmatchett383

Exactly...I was worried I mixed up my stories for a second
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 1 @ 11:28 AM ET
So Cashman gathered a fleet of 1000 cars, and they made their way to the edge of the Schuylkill River where Cashman demanded the return of his wife, or he vowed to burn the Spectrum to the ground. He brought with him many great warriors, such as Terry O'Reilly and Stan Jonathan. He also brought Mike Milbury with him. But after being unable to breach the walls of the Spectrum, the defeated Bostonians got back into their assorted vehicles and departed, never to return.


See whatcha did there...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 1 @ 11:33 AM ET
Exactly...I was worried I mixed up my stories for a second
- YuenglingJagr


It's all recorded vividly be the poet Jay Greenberg in his epic "Full Spectrum."
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 1 @ 11:40 AM ET

didn't berube try to get into the rangers room after an avery incident, the "gutless puke" bit ?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 1 @ 11:42 AM ET

https://pagesix.com/2018/...roomer-over-s-t-tip-text/
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 1 @ 12:04 PM ET
The Gate, another Spectrum classic!

Man, I miss that building, you felt like you were right on top of the ice. I gotta think between Flyers games and concerts, I must of been in that joint at least 500 times.

It was like my second home.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 1 @ 12:04 PM ET
Didn't he say she was a dyke, and Cashman chased him across the ice?
- MBFlyerfan

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 1 @ 12:20 PM ET
The gate had originally been preserved at Xfinity Live at the Spectrum Grille but after the changeover to 1100 Social, the gate was relegated to a pile of stuff designated for recycling or disposal. Brian rescued it and is in temporary custody of it until the Flyers figure out a new, more permanent destination for it.


Why would it be so hard to find a place for the gate at Xfinity Live?

I realize that my age probably obliges me to consider Xfinity Live a big disappointment, but the entire place stands of the grounds of the former Spectrum.

How in the blue (frank) can one of those geniuses that runs Xfinity NOT be able to find something to do with that gate, which actually comes with a cool story and is part of the lore of the building they tore down to make room for a building that practically gives me a headache everytime I walk in?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 1 @ 12:27 PM ET
https://pagesix.com/2018/04/24/sean-avery-feuds-with-dog-groomer-over-s-t-tip-text/
- -davies-


I don't know what is more terrible about this story.

That Avery has little toy dogs he sends to a groomer or that the groomer expects to be tipped.

Is that a common thing to tip a dog groomer? Never taken a dog to a groomer.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 1 @ 12:34 PM ET
I dont know what annoys me about players milling around and chatting after a game with the other team, but it really does. I mean, if your a competitive person, you do not want to hang around with a team that just beat you.... no sir. I dont like it.
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