Ryan Wilson: Penguins make three signings Penguins make three signings

"Keefe hired as Devils coach, replaces Green"

Ends any rumor mill of Sully going to Devils or Keefe being a target for Dubas.

Feds, highly doubt Lomberg wants anything to do with such a limp approach to the game of hockey that the Pens have committed themselves to. He will most likely look to resign with Florida I’d imagine.

Columbus needs to offload defencemen, not acquire them.

That’s pretty funny. Last season they tried to bring in Babcock to fix the defense and labeled the defense as where they needed the most help. Merzlikins has been hung out to dry there.

You're also suggesting making your team violently worse

This (suggestion) is about building for the future while attempting to make the best of what they’ve committed to. FTR, I’d take *VIOLENTLY* worse as it would be an upgrade to last season. Olivier is a player who has excellent size and strength – and loves playing a physical brand of hockey. He initiates contact.

PENS just signed a fancy defenseman Filip Kral to a 1-year… hopefully he never gets out of WB/S.

Also, opinions on Iginla are very split. Some see him as a borderline top ten talent, and other don't think he's worth a first.

Since opinions are like elbows (everyone has one or two of them) – your above list of opinions could be found on just about any prospect… what do you say? Or, is it you don’t you have an opinion of your own.

My idea is getting players who are physical players and getting rid of the *solely* fancy players. No more softies.

OUT: Jarry, Smith, Graves, Joseph, Shea, 1st round pick (whatever ours is!)
IN: Merzlikins, Gudbranson, Oliver, 1st round pick (if Iginla is available)

Feds, highly doubt Lomberg wants anything to do with such a limp approach to the game of hockey that the Pens have committed themselves to. He will most likely look to resign with Florida I’d imagine.
- Grinder47

I feel like he should really try and cash in on his 7 point season.

That’s pretty funny. Last season they tried to bring in Babcock to fix the defense and labeled the defense as where they needed the most help. Merzlikins has been hung out to dry there.


This (suggestion) is about building for the future while attempting to make the best of what they’ve committed to. FTR, I’d take *VIOLENTLY* worse as it would be an upgrade to last season. Olivier is a player who has excellent size and strength – and loves playing a physical brand of hockey. He initiates contact.

PENS just signed a fancy defenseman Filip Kral to a 1-year… hopefully he never gets out of WB/S.


Since opinions are like elbows (everyone has one or two of them) – your above list of opinions could be found on just about any prospect… what do you say? Or, is it you don’t you have an opinion of your own.

My idea is getting players who are physical players and getting rid of the *solely* fancy players. No more softies.

OUT: Jarry, Smith, Graves, Joseph, Shea, 1st round pick (whatever ours is!)
IN: Merzlikins, Gudbranson, Oliver, 1st round pick (if Iginla is available)
- sufi-judge

Why do you exist?

Here is my very simple, ultra high risk proposal for this year:

PIT - Dubois, Laine, Provorov
CBJ - Graves, Accari, Kaliyev, LAK 1st, Pens 2nd (or Poulin)
LAK - Smith, Jarry

Sign Cam Talbot to a 1 year deal and resign Ned for 3 years.

Dubois-Crosby-Rust
Bunting-Malkin-Rackell
Puustinen-Eller-Laine
DOC-Pomonorev-Puljujarvi

Pettersson-Letang
Provorov-Karlsson
POJ-St Ivany

Talbot-Ned-Blomqvist

Here is my very simple, ultra high risk proposal for this year:

PIT - Dubois, Laine, Provorov
CBJ - Graves, Accari, Kaliyev, LAK 1st, Pens 2nd (or Poulin)
LAK - Smith, Jarry

Sign Cam Talbot to a 1 year deal and resign Ned for 3 years.

Dubois-Crosby-Rust
Bunting-Malkin-Rackell
Puustinen-Eller-Laine
DOC-Pomonorev-Puljujarvi

Pettersson-Letang
Provorov-Karlsson
POJ-St Ivany

Talbot-Ned-Blomqvist
- MacPatty

Nothing like a very simple, completely unreasonable three way deal

I feel like he should really try and cash in on his 7 point season.
- Feds91Stammer

Someone’s going to pay him between 800k and 1 mil to fly around North America playing hockey. Not a bad gig.

Nothing like a very simple, completely unreasonable three way deal
- Feds91Stammer

I know right... so who says no?

Why do you exist?

- Fredo91Stammer –

My parents had sex… yours too, right?

If not, why do YOU exist?

I guess it may well be that I live in a computer simulation in which I am the only self-aware creature. I could well be a zombie but then, so could you.

Have an interesting day, Hoser.

Since opinions are like elbows (everyone has one or two of them) – your above list of opinions could be found on just about any prospect… what do you say? Or, is it you don’t you have an opinion of your own.

My idea is getting players who are physical players and getting rid of the *solely* fancy players. No more softies.

OUT: Jarry, Smith, Graves, Joseph, Shea, 1st round pick (whatever ours is!)
IN: Merzlikins, Gudbranson, Oliver, 1st round pick (if Iginla is available)
- sufi-judge

First off, quit including Shea. I already told you he's a UFA. He adds nothing to the trade.

Problem is you have no idea what the value of those draft picks is. Columbus drafts fourth overall, and no, if they were dumb enough to trade that for our extras I would not draft Iginla. We don't have a first round pick, our best is 44.

So we're trading Jarry, Smith, Graves, Joseph and #44

Merzlikens, Gudbranson, Oliver, #4.

Sounds ridiculously lopsided for the Pens to trade three guys with potentially negative value plus POJ to move from the middle of the second round to top 5, just to draft a guy you might get in the 20s.

The problem isn't that you want to get tougher. The problem is you have no idea what players and picks are worth.

- Fredo91Stammer –

My parents had sex… yours too, right?

If not, why do YOU exist?

I guess it may well be that I live in a computer simulation in which I am the only self-aware creature. I could well be a zombie but then, so could you.

Have an interesting day, Hoser.
- sufi-judge

Hell yeah

- Fredo91Stammer –

My parents had sex… yours too, right?

If not, why do YOU exist?

I guess it may well be that I live in a computer simulation in which I am the only self-aware creature. I could well be a zombie but then, so could you.

Have an interesting day, Hoser.
- sufi-judge

Lmao that guy has a severe God complex😂😂😂😂
Like that nerd that always had an opinion on things that never had anything to do with him, always needed to be right

Carolina’s GM is leaving. I’m assuming Tulsky is promoted so there goes that if Dubas had any intention of hiring a GM, which to be fair he probably didn’t.

Lmao that guy has a severe God complex😂😂😂😂
Like that nerd that always had an opinion on things that never had anything to do with him, always needed to be right
- optimus-reim

You come in here arguing your incredibly dumb takes sometimes. All around this site I've seen it, actually. Seems this may be a case of pot meet kettle, then?

Here is my very simple, ultra high risk proposal for this year:

PIT - Dubois, Laine, Provorov
CBJ - Graves, Accari, Kaliyev, LAK 1st, Pens 2nd (or Poulin)
LAK - Smith, Jarry
- MacPatty

Why in the crap would LA do that? Hell, even CBJ isn't getting decent value.

Why in the crap would LA do that? Hell, even CBJ isn't getting decent value.
- jmatchett383

Thats a no brainer for LA. Dubois is a cap dump for them, Smith will be more productive for them in a top 6 role than Dubois was last season, on a 1 year $5M contract.

I am assuming that LA would see value in Jarry since they have had all kinds of issues finding goaltending.

LA gets Smith & Jarry (long term contract relief) for Dubois, Kaliyev & their 1st. I think they would trade Kaliyev & their 1st just to dump the Dubois contract, so getting two guys who can be productive in that scenario helps them save face a bit.

Columbus gets Graves & Accari (poop cap dumps), Kaliyev, a 1st and a 2nd for Laine (who didnt even play last year) & Provorov on a expiring deal. Laine has played an average of 45 games per year the last 4 years... sure if Columbus thinks he is coming back a surefire 40 goal scorer it is bad value. Otherwise it is an opportunity for them to move on and get some more assets for the rebuild. New GM who will have no attachment to either Laine or Provorov.

Pens get Laine, Dubois & Provorov for Jarry, Graves, Smith, Accari & a 2nd. Massive risk with Dubois and Laine. Thats $17M tied up between two major underperformers who happen to have huge upside. Provorov would be a really nice get as a replacement for Graves.

I'd say it makes the least sense for the Pens but I would do it because it is a huge risk, huge reward deal and my paycheck isnt at risk on HB.

Thats a no brainer for LA. Dubois is a cap dump for them, Smith will be more productive for them in a top 6 role than Dubois was last season, on a 1 year $5M contract.

I am assuming that LA would see value in Jarry since they have had all kinds of issues finding goaltending.

LA gets Smith & Jarry (long term contract relief) for Dubois, Kaliyev & their 1st. I think they would trade Kaliyev & their 1st just to dump the Dubois contract, so getting two guys who can be productive in that scenario helps them save face a bit.

Columbus gets Graves & Accari (poop cap dumps), Kaliyev, a 1st and a 2nd for Laine (who didnt even play last year) & Provorov on a expiring deal. Laine has played an average of 45 games per year the last 4 years... sure if Columbus thinks he is coming back a surefire 40 goal scorer it is bad value. Otherwise it is an opportunity for them to move on and get some more assets for the rebuild. New GM who will have no attachment to either Laine or Provorov.

Pens get Laine, Dubois & Provorov for Jarry, Graves, Smith, Accari & a 2nd. Massive risk with Dubois and Laine. Thats $17M tied up between two major underperformers who happen to have huge upside. Provorov would be a really nice get as a replacement for Graves.

I'd say it makes the least sense for the Pens but I would do it because it is a huge risk, huge reward deal and my paycheck isnt at risk on HB.
- MacPatty

Quite the explanation for such a simple trade.

Thats a no brainer for LA. Dubois is a cap dump for them, Smith will be more productive for them in a top 6 role than Dubois was last season, on a 1 year $5M contract.

I am assuming that LA would see value in Jarry since they have had all kinds of issues finding goaltending.

LA gets Smith & Jarry (long term contract relief) for Dubois, Kaliyev & their 1st. I think they would trade Kaliyev & their 1st just to dump the Dubois contract, so getting two guys who can be productive in that scenario helps them save face a bit.

Columbus gets Graves & Accari (poop cap dumps), Kaliyev, a 1st and a 2nd for Laine (who didnt even play last year) & Provorov on a expiring deal. Laine has played an average of 45 games per year the last 4 years... sure if Columbus thinks he is coming back a surefire 40 goal scorer it is bad value. Otherwise it is an opportunity for them to move on and get some more assets for the rebuild. New GM who will have no attachment to either Laine or Provorov.

Pens get Laine, Dubois & Provorov for Jarry, Graves, Smith, Accari & a 2nd. Massive risk with Dubois and Laine. Thats $17M tied up between two major underperformers who happen to have huge upside. Provorov would be a really nice get as a replacement for Graves.

I'd say it makes the least sense for the Pens but I would do it because it is a huge risk, huge reward deal and my paycheck isnt at risk on HB.
- MacPatty

This explanation, and your rationale, actually makes it look even worse for LA than I had thought.

Carolina’s GM is leaving. I’m assuming Tulsky is promoted so there goes that if Dubas had any intention of hiring a GM, which to be fair he probably didn’t.
- Victoro311

Official.

Thats a no brainer for LA. Dubois is a cap dump for them, Smith will be more productive for them in a top 6 role than Dubois was last season, on a 1 year $5M contract.

I am assuming that LA would see value in Jarry since they have had all kinds of issues finding goaltending.

LA gets Smith & Jarry (long term contract relief) for Dubois, Kaliyev & their 1st. I think they would trade Kaliyev & their 1st just to dump the Dubois contract, so getting two guys who can be productive in that scenario helps them save face a bit.

Columbus gets Graves & Accari (poop cap dumps), Kaliyev, a 1st and a 2nd for Laine (who didnt even play last year) & Provorov on a expiring deal. Laine has played an average of 45 games per year the last 4 years... sure if Columbus thinks he is coming back a surefire 40 goal scorer it is bad value. Otherwise it is an opportunity for them to move on and get some more assets for the rebuild. New GM who will have no attachment to either Laine or Provorov.

Pens get Laine, Dubois & Provorov for Jarry, Graves, Smith, Accari & a 2nd. Massive risk with Dubois and Laine. Thats $17M tied up between two major underperformers who happen to have huge upside. Provorov would be a really nice get as a replacement for Graves.

I'd say it makes the least sense for the Pens but I would do it because it is a huge risk, huge reward deal and my paycheck isnt at risk on HB.
- MacPatty

Is there a reason to want to take on PLD and that terrible contract other than hearing yinzers pronounce his name "Doo-Boys"?

Is there a reason to want to take on PLD and that terrible contract other than hearing yinzers pronounce his name "Doo-Boys"?
- MickV

Because we don't have the assets and we don't have the time to not take huge risks. I like that he has the flexibility to play wing or center. Riding shotgun to Crosby would be a perfect scenario for him to turn it around and be productive at that level. You also have to take into account shipping out the Graves and Jarry long term salaries as well.

In the long term, even if he is a complete bust we will just be rebuilding after Crosby is done anyway.

Edit: And he is still only 25... he is just hitting his prime now.

Would Graves be interesting to his former Avs/Devils GMs? Avs don't have wiggle room so I think that's a no go. There's a new coach in Jersey so that makes it unlikely too.

Jarry + Graves for Palat?

More salary going their way than ours but they have cap space especially when you realize they're going to have to spend on a goalie anyway this offseason. $18 million left on Palat's contract. He's 33. He's not useless but only giving ya 30 points a season so maybe it's a salary dump for them?

Jersey could use a defender and they'd have money to sign a good forward.

Is there a reason to want to take on PLD and that terrible contract other than hearing yinzers pronounce his name "Doo-Boys"?
- MickV

Hows else would yuz pronounce it?