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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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May 20 @ 10:03 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits:
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 20 @ 10:43 AM ET
I know most all of us want a real rebuild, most of us don't believe it will happen. Just for fun, assume we are right, MM comes over and the Flyers decide to add Center help, D help. Who would you target, who might be available?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 20 @ 10:59 AM ET
I know most all of us want a real rebuild, most of us don't believe it will happen. Just for fun, assume we are right, MM comes over and the Flyers decide to add Center help, D help. Who would you target, who might be available?
- wcorvette


Since they’re capped out, I see them following the Minnesota model. They’ll buyout sanheim and coots contracts, sign ufa’s pesce and lindholm long term, and reimage the team around michkov. It’s worked so well for Minnesota.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 20 @ 11:01 AM ET
I know most all of us want a real rebuild, most of us don't believe it will happen. Just for fun, assume we are right, MM comes over and the Flyers decide to add Center help, D help. Who would you target, who might be available?
- wcorvette


They need a 1C and a 1D. Teams aren’t moving guys like that without a massive return coming back.

They need to stay patient, move at least one of Laughton/TK for picks/prospects and continue to build through the draft.

However, with the Flyer’s track record, throwing big bucks or trading youth/picks for an aging 2C or 2D is much more likely to occur. It’s why they’ve bounced around from so-so to bad over the last 12 years and counting.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 20 @ 11:08 AM ET
They need a 1C and a 1D. Teams aren’t moving guys like that without a massive return coming back.

They need to stay patient, move at least one of Laughton/TK for picks/prospects and continue to build through the draft.

However, with the Flyer’s track record, throwing big bucks or trading youth/picks for an aging 2C or 2D is much more likely to occur. It’s why they’ve bounced around from so-so to bad over the last 12 years and counting.

- BiggE


we agree, so assume they will, who will they try to get? I think Sam Bennett on the C side. I think it is a mistake but hey, we need something to talk about
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 20 @ 11:17 AM ET
Since they’re capped out, I see them following the Minnesota model. They’ll buyout sanheim and coots contracts, sign ufa’s pesce and lindholm long term, and reimage the team around michkov. It’s worked so well for Minnesota.
- Just5

that is beyond laughable.

why on earth would you buy out sanheim? or ex selke at this point?

unless your just being sarcastic
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

May 20 @ 11:19 AM ET
I expect plenty of hockey trades this summer because the UFA market is weak and the first meaningful cap increase in years. GMs have a relatively short shelf life especially when they don't win- winning does matter.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 20 @ 11:32 AM ET
I know most all of us want a real rebuild, most of us don't believe it will happen. Just for fun, assume we are right, MM comes over and the Flyers decide to add Center help, D help. Who would you target, who might be available?
- wcorvette


Pierre Luc Dubois and Seth Jones
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 20 @ 11:40 AM ET
Pierre Luc Dubois and Seth Jones
- Tomahawk



I'm sure Torts will be all for that lol
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 20 @ 11:43 AM ET
Pierre Luc Dubois and Seth Jones
- Tomahawk



OUCH
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

May 20 @ 11:43 AM ET
I know most all of us want a real rebuild, most of us don't believe it will happen. Just for fun, assume we are right, MM comes over and the Flyers decide to add Center help, D help. Who would you target, who might be available?
- wcorvette


Just put Michkov with Frost and see what comes of it. They're not going to find that 1C or top defenseman this offseason.

You would think at some point reality would smack them in the face and they would try to draft those guys.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

May 20 @ 11:47 AM ET
Pierre Luc Dubois and Seth Jones
- Tomahawk


Trevor Zegras and Thomas Chabot is my guess.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

May 20 @ 11:50 AM ET
Just put Michkov with Frost and see what comes of it. They're not going to find that 1C or top defenseman this offseason.

You would think at some point reality would smack them in the face and they would try to draft those guys.

- Pelle31Forever


Well they kind of tried and swung missed badly. Jay O'Brien, German Rubtsov. and Nolan Parick could have made the current team look significantly different if they panned out.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 20 @ 11:53 AM ET
Well they kind of tried and swung missed badly. Jay O'Brien, German Rubtsov. and Nolan Parick could have made the current team look significantly different if they panned out.
- Trox88


Still feeling the breeze from those collective whiffs. Wow Hexy
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 20 @ 12:01 PM ET
I'm sure Torts will be all for that lol
- MBFlyerfan


mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

May 20 @ 12:16 PM ET
I know most all of us want a real rebuild, most of us don't believe it will happen. Just for fun, assume we are right, MM comes over and the Flyers decide to add Center help, D help. Who would you target, who might be available?
- wcorvette


For entertainment purposes only:

Necas for Farabee, RR and Ducks 2nd
Zegras for Colorados 1st next year and Frost
Laughton to Buffalo for Krebs
TK and Couts to Utah for whatever they can get! Prospects/draft capital
Sign Teresenko (for Michkov)

wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 20 @ 12:43 PM ET
Just put Michkov with Frost and see what comes of it. They're not going to find that 1C or top defenseman this offseason.

You would think at some point reality would smack them in the face and they would try to draft those guys.

- Pelle31Forever


There might not be, but they will do it anyway
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 20 @ 12:49 PM ET
For entertainment purposes only:

Necas for Farabee, RR and Ducks 2nd
Zegras for Colorados 1st next year and Frost
Laughton to Buffalo for Krebs
TK and Couts to Utah for whatever they can get! Prospects/draft capital
Sign Teresenko (for Michkov)

- mikeyo27



Eric Tulsky agreeing to trade for Ristolainen is very entertaining.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 20 @ 12:55 PM ET
Eric Tulsky agreeing to trade for Ristolainen is very entertaining.
- MJL



I would imagine his own analytics computer program has a Klaxon warning playing at 100db when He puts RR's name into it. DANGER! DANGER! WARNING! WARNING!
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

May 20 @ 1:31 PM ET
I know most all of us want a real rebuild, most of us don't believe it will happen. Just for fun, assume we are right, MM comes over and the Flyers decide to add Center help, D help. Who would you target, who might be available?
- wcorvette


Won’t matter to me… as soon as they sign tk I’m out
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

May 20 @ 1:52 PM ET
I know most all of us want a real rebuild, most of us don't believe it will happen. Just for fun, assume we are right, MM comes over and the Flyers decide to add Center help, D help. Who would you target, who might be available?
- wcorvette


As you said a true rebuild is the way to go. But to answer your question. Past rumors have stated Zegras, Pinto, Chychrun, & Chabot. Zegras has a lot of offensive potential and is still young enough that he could become a 1C, though I think he’ll top out as a higher end 2C. I don’t see it with Pinto, his production to this point is basically in line with Frost but he’s a bit bigger. I wouldn’t waste my time on him. Chychrun & Chabot align with finding a lefty to pair with JD. They’re also not terribly old at 26 & 27. There’s also Necas but I don’t see 1C upside there. Depending on how FA rolls out, other LD might be Zadorov or Skjei. Center FA’s they probably target Lindholm or even Monahan. Once they put Ellis and Johansen on LTIR. They’ll have more than enough space for these guy. Plus if they trade for someone, roster players will be going back in return.

I will repeat, I think going this route is a terrible idea.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

May 20 @ 1:52 PM ET
Well they kind of tried and swung missed badly. Jay O'Brien, German Rubtsov. and Nolan Parick could have made the current team look significantly different if they panned out.
- Trox88


I get it but if past failures are going to deter you from drafting and developing, then what's it all for? Might as well fold up shop.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 20 @ 1:54 PM ET
Still feeling the breeze from those collective whiffs. Wow Hexy
- Just5

now you did it, here he comes
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 20 @ 1:55 PM ET
As you said a true rebuild is the way to go. But to answer your question. Past rumors have stated Zegras, Pinto, Chychrun, & Chabot. Zegras has a lot of offensive potential and is still young enough that he could become a 1C, though I think he’ll top out as a higher end 2C. I don’t see it with Pinto, his production to this point is basically in line with Frost but he’s a bit bigger. I wouldn’t waste my time on him. Chychrun & Chabot align with finding a lefty to pair with JD. They’re also not terribly old at 26 & 27. There’s also Necas but I don’t see 1C upside there. Depending on how FA rolls out, other LD might be Zadorov or Skjei. Center FA’s they probably target Lindholm or even Monahan. Once they put Ellis and Johansen on LTIR. They’ll have more than enough space for these guy. Plus if they trade for someone, roster players will be going back in return.

I will repeat, I think going this route is a terrible idea.

- Schmojo

Necas wants to play center. The canes coach who was a very good center doesn't seem fit to play him at center. wonder why
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 20 @ 1:59 PM ET
I’d trade a D man for the right center. At least Bonk is in the pipeline.
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