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Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Jul 2 @ 9:44 AM ET
Karine Hains: In Hainsight: Timely Trade Embodies Habs’ Game Plan The Canadiens didn’t make any big signing yesterday as expected, but they did start trimming down the roster.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 2 @ 9:46 AM ET
so the day after,

BOS is not better, need a C
TOR is in trouble, need a GM
FLA, TB, BUF and MTL, pretty much even,
OTT and DET got a bit better

should be fun!
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 2 @ 9:56 AM ET
also, if MTL puts Primeau on waivers I have 2$ TB will claim the kid
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 2 @ 10:17 AM ET
Karine
Hains: In Hainsight: Timely Trade Embodies Habs’ Game Plan

The Canadiens didn’t make any big signing yesterday as expected, but they did start trimming down the roster.

- Karine Hains


Good day yesterday. Added a few bodies for Laval, traded someone who needed to go, lost some spare parts that had no future in Montreal, and did not get caught up in the craziness.

So 1 player gone (Eddy), 3 to go... little hope Armia, Hoffman and/or Dvorak are traded over the summer (Dvorak seems the most likely, as his production almost matches the value of his contract, if he remains healthy).

Welcome to the long days of summer, don't expect much to happen except some signing of our own players that need contract.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 2 @ 10:39 AM ET
Good day yesterday. Added a few bodies for Laval, traded someone who needed to go, lost some spare parts that had no future in Montreal, and did not get caught up in the craziness.

So 1 player gone (Eddy), 3 to go... little hope Armia, Hoffman and/or Dvorak are traded over the summer (Dvorak seems the most likely, as his production almost matches the value of his contract, if he remains healthy).

Welcome to the long days of summer, don't expect much to happen except some signing of our own players that need contract.

- Mashadar

yep, très tranquille lol
all good, ca va faire du bien
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:15 AM ET
yep, très tranquille lol
all good, ca va faire du bien

- fidopro


ça braillait hier sur la page Facebook des Canadiens...le monde comprennent pas pourquoi qu'un club en reconstruction se garoche pas à signer des UFA.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:23 AM ET
ça braillait hier sur la page Facebook des Canadiens...le monde comprennent pas pourquoi qu'un club en reconstruction se garoche pas à signer des UFA.
- stinger67

plus le temps passe et plus je me félicite de n'avoir jamais eu de compte sur les médias sociaux
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 2 @ 11:25 AM ET
ça braillait hier sur la page Facebook des Canadiens...le monde comprennent pas pourquoi qu'un club en reconstruction se garoche pas à signer des UFA.
- stinger67


I honestly do not get a large portion of the fan base.

I mean, there was nothing out there really interesting, TBH. Yeah, maybe some middle 6 or a defence here and there, but nothing that would make the club significantly better, just block kids from playing next year.

As it is, the Habs are trying to divest themselves of a whole forward line, why add more to the problem?

And even if there was someone they really wanted, who is to say they would sign with Montreal?

These are the same people who are pissed the Habs did not offer more than the Kings for PLD or think the Russian could have been the team's saviour.

They want the team to rebuild in 2 years, when they do not get this team has been in retool mode for 30+ years without any consistent success on any level.

Who knows, at the end of the day, if HuGo will do better or have more success (luck plays a part in it), but so far it looks pretty promising.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 2 @ 11:26 AM ET
plus le temps passe et plus je me félicite de n'avoir jamais eu de compte sur les médias sociaux
- fidopro


Twitter currently being broken is a good thing.

Not that I use twitter for anything other than TDL or FA or Draft days, things like that, and only refreshing my pre-made lists.

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:31 AM ET
I honestly do not get a large portion of the fan base.

I mean, there was nothing out there really interesting, TBH. Yeah, maybe some middle 6 or a defence here and there, but nothing that would make the club significantly better or block kids from playing next year.

As it is, the Habs are trying to divest themselves of a whole forward line, why add more to the problem?

And even if there was someone they really wanted, who is to say they would sign with Montreal.

These are the same people who are pissed the Habs did not offer more to the Kings for PLD or think the Russian could have been the team's saviour.

They want the team to rebuild in 2 years, when they do not get this team has been in retool mode for 30+ years without any consistent success on any level.

Who knows, at the end of the day, if HuGo will do better or have more success (luck plays a part in it), but so far it looks pretty promising.

- Mashadar

we have the most intelligent GM we've had in a long time imo. I think we have to go back to Savard to be that well set. let him work, can't be worse than what we witnessed the past 30 years. all the rest is just noise.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jul 2 @ 11:32 AM ET
I honestly do not get a large portion of the fan base.

I mean, there was nothing out there really interesting, TBH. Yeah, maybe some middle 6 or a defence here and there, but nothing that would make the club significantly better, just block kids from playing next year.

As it is, the Habs are trying to divest themselves of a whole forward line, why add more to the problem?

And even if there was someone they really wanted, who is to say they would sign with Montreal?

These are the same people who are pissed the Habs did not offer more to the Kings for PLD or think the Russian could have been the team's saviour.

They want the team to rebuild in 2 years, when they do not get this team has been in retool mode for 30+ years without any consistent success on any level.

Who knows, at the end of the day, if HuGo will do better or have more success (luck plays a part in it), but so far it looks pretty promising.

- Mashadar

By definition, UFA's are older players and that's not what we're looking for.
We're building a young team that can grow together over the years, getting a 30+ years old player makes no sense for us at this time.

Social media is a wasteland, as others here I've never had a Facecrack or Twit account. I value my sanity too much for that.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 2 @ 11:34 AM ET
we have the most intelligent GM in a long time imo. I think we have to go back to Savard to be that well set. let him work, can't be worse than what we witnessed the pass 30 years. all the rest is just noise.
- fidopro


TBH, I am more interested in what management has been doing the last 18 months than what is on the ice.

I really like the Reinbacher, pick, not sold on the rest of their picks this year other than maybe Fowler. But what do I know?

Sit back, enjoy the ride, 'cause in a few years, it is gonna be a lot of fun.


fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:38 AM ET
TBH, I am more interested in what management has been doing the last 18 months than what is on the ice.

I really like the Reinbacher, pick, not sold on the rest of their picks this year other than maybe Fowler. But what do I know?

Sit back, enjoy the ride, 'cause in a few years, it is gonna be a lot of fun.

- Mashadar

agreed on their day2 of the draft. not impressed. it looks like they didn't know what to do or whom to pick. even them when they met the press after were not very convincing lol.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 2 @ 11:38 AM ET
By definition, UFA's are older players and that's not what we're looking for.
We're building a young team that can grow together over the years, getting a 30+ years old player makes no sense for us at this time.

Social media is a wasteland, as others here I've never had a Facecrack or Twit account. I value my sanity too much for that.

- Garfield512


In 3-4 years, you look at UFAs.

Not now.

Look at all the middle of the pack teams who just added players, it seems, just to keep being middle of the pack. Not sure any team really improved significantly yesterday.

I'd rather get a key UFA when we need one to help potentially put us over the top, rather than to keep us being mediocre.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jul 2 @ 11:42 AM ET
agreed on their day2 of the draft. not impressed. it looks like they didn't know what to do or whom to pick. even them when they met the press after were not very convincing lol.
- fidopro

They had already drafted a lot of players over the last few years and one of the positions were we were thin was in net ... thus the selection of 3 goalies.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:42 AM ET
In 3-4 years, you look at UFAs.

Not now.

Look at all the middle of the pack teams who just added players, it seems, just to keep being middle of the pack. Not sure any team really improved significantly yesterday.

I'd rather get a key UFA when we need one to help potentially put us over the top, rather than to keep us being mediocre.

- Mashadar

didn't follow that closely but I think ANA had a good day. not that it will change anything for them. CAR and NASH too I guess.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:43 AM ET
They had already drafted a lot of players over the last few years and one of the positions were we were thin was in net ... thus the selection of 3 goalies.
- Garfield512

I expect Reinbacher to become a stud, if anyone else from that draft makes the league it will be a bonus.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 2 @ 11:45 AM ET
didn't follow that closely but I think ANA had a good day. not that it will change anything for them. CAR and NASH too I guess.
- fidopro


Yeah, Carolina looks pretty damn stacked.

They went out and got the pieces they need to make them a real contender.

That is what the Habs need to do in 3-4 years, not now.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jul 2 @ 11:50 AM ET
In 3-4 years, you look at UFAs.

Not now.

Look at all the middle of the pack teams who just added players, it seems, just to keep being middle of the pack. Not sure any team really improved significantly yesterday.

I'd rather get a key UFA when we need one to help potentially put us over the top, rather than to keep us being mediocre.

- Mashadar

That's were we were for the last 30 years with previous management ... no man's land.

We just kept plugging holes in the lineup with overpaid mediocre players and the goal was just making the (frank)ing playoffs. We could never hope for more than that, it's no surprise our last cup was 30 years ago.

This new management team has a PLAN contrary to the other idiots before them.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 2 @ 11:54 AM ET
That's were we were for the last 30 years with previous management ... no man's land.

We just kept plugging holes in the lineup with overpaid mediocre players and the goal was just making the (frank)ing playoffs. We could never hope for more than that, it's no surprise our last cup was 30 years ago.

This new management team has a PLAN contrary to the other idiots before them.

- Garfield512


Part of that was on management, but part of that was on ownership (current and previous) down and pressure from the media to win at all cost.

Was not til Gorton and Hughes came on board with the promise they could do a full rebuild that the reality finally set in to doing things right.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 2 @ 11:57 AM ET
Part of that was on management, but part of that was on ownership (current and previous) down and pressure from the media to win at all cost.

Was not til Gorton and Hughes came on board with the promise they could do a full rebuild that the reality finally set in to doing things right.

- Mashadar



Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 2 @ 11:59 AM ET

- Pat1993


The things I do to get you to post.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:00 PM ET
The things I do to get you to post.
- Mashadar




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Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jul 2 @ 12:29 PM ET
Part of that was on management, but part of that was on ownership (current and previous) down and pressure from the media to win at all cost.

Was not til Gorton and Hughes came on board with the promise they could do a full rebuild that the reality finally set in to doing things right.

- Mashadar

Carey Price's retirement might have been the best thing to happen to this team as it marked the end of an era and it forced a rethink of the team's philosophy.

For years, a freakin' goalie was the best paid player on our team ... every decision was made around him and we kept insisting on playing a defensive game.
We never had a potent offense because they never prioritized getting a #1 centerman.

When we won cups in the past, we didn't play a "turtle around the goalie" type of game.

Price's retirement coincided with Molson cleaning house and bringing in new management with new ideas.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 2 @ 1:10 PM ET
Carey Price's retirement might have been the best thing to happen to this team as it marked the end of an era and it forced a rethink of the team's philosophy.

For years, a freakin' goalie was the best paid player on our team ... every decision was made around him and we kept insisting on playing a defensive game.
We never had a potent offense because they never prioritized getting a #1 centerman.

When we won cups in the past, we didn't play a "turtle around the goalie" type of game.

Price's retirement coincided with Molson cleaning house and bringing in new management with new ideas.

- Garfield512


yeah, I guess that depends on how you view goaltending, when your goalie is the best player on the team it's kind of normal that he becomes the highest-paid guy, since he's your best player after all... that being said it's obvious that Price's cap hit quickly became an issue, with the salary cap barely going up, there wasn't enough left to build a proper team in front of him.

personally I didn't mind if the team was being structured around him, as I really enjoyed watching Carey play when he was healthy and could steal games by himself, but let's just say that a lot of bad decisions were taken as well, and ultimately as you're saying the habs never had enough fire power up front to win it all in the playoffs.

anyway I agree with you that it's nice to have a different philosophy now for building this team, with more focus on offense and speed.
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