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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: Source Nylander Won’t Be Back. Bratt? Dumba +_Updates to the Rumor Chart.
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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 13 @ 12:35 PM ET
Eklund: Source Nylander Won’t Be Back. Bratt? Dumba +_Updates to the Rumor Chart.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

May 13 @ 12:45 PM ET
Nylander has been the most consistent playoff performer out of their big four forwards. They should be getting a 2D for him.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

May 13 @ 12:52 PM ET
Willie and Murray for Risto and Konecny
diabeticmik3
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: United States, CA
Joined: 06.18.2008

May 13 @ 12:57 PM ET
Now the just say Karlsson to the leafs for Nylander and Knies
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

May 13 @ 1:03 PM ET
That would be just like the Leafs to trade the best performing forward in playoffs for a second rate D man. And whom is making this trade……cause Dubas should be down the road!!
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

May 13 @ 1:05 PM ET
That would be just like the Leafs to trade the best performing forward in playoffs for a second rate D man. And whom is making this trade……cause Dubas should be down the road!!
- Bullot

Actually I think Dumba is a ufa…….
It’s Marner that should be going! He plays scared in playoffs and at 11mil you need to be a difference maker……in the playoffs!!!
CupOnBroadSt.
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.23.2012

May 13 @ 1:11 PM ET
Willie and Murray for Risto and Konecny
- HenryHockey


The Flyers have no need for Matt Murray. Why would they want him? No thanks.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

May 13 @ 1:15 PM ET
Nylander is $7M per year guy and a very solid player. These days $7M for a young 80+pt player is a good value.

Clearly there are other TOR players that make more sense to move for cap reasons without harming the team as replacing Nylander's skill won't happen.

TOR doesn't want picks for him and so you'll have to take on salary of at least one player.

It makes no sense for any team to trade a top young F or D, at or around the skill of Nylander, on entry level for Nylander (e.g. Seider-like player/contract).

Skill wise as well, he was TOR best player and top 3-4 on the season, so it makes no sense there either.

Moreover, are there any teams who have a Nylander-like D man who need more scoring and can spare to trade a top D for (and take Nylander's cap hit)? Nope.

So, the only real solution here is to find a coach who will play a system better suited to the players' talents and GM and scouts need to look more closely at acquiring/drafting players that fit that system. e.g. a coach who will put Sandin in a situation as WSH played him with Carlson out.


If you're looking to make a deal though, I would try to trade Morgan Reilly and get rid of that 7.5M albatross for the next billion years...there are better D at that price point, and lower...heck Barrie on NSH at $5mil would replace him well and save $2.5M per year.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

May 13 @ 1:20 PM ET
It makes no sense for any team to trade a top young F or D, at or around the skill of Nylander, on entry level for Nylander (e.g. Seider-like player/contract).

Skill wise as well, he was TOR best player and top 3-4 on the season, so it makes no sense there either.

- mventres


It makes sense if they are getting back an equally valuable player. In their case making a lateral move to upgrade the defense.


Moreover, are there any teams who have a Nylander-like D man who need more scoring and can spare to trade a top D for (and take Nylander's cap hit)? Nope.


Agree with you there. I can't think of any team that would be an ideal trade partner. Doesn't Toronto need a top line RD still? Maybe for Karlsson, but damn is that risky. Trading Nylander and signing Dumba to a relatively similar cap hit would be a roster downgrade IMO.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

May 13 @ 1:27 PM ET
It makes sense if they are getting back an equally valuable player. In their case making a lateral move to upgrade the defense.




Agree with you there. I can't think of any team that would be an ideal trade partner. Doesn't Toronto need a top line RD still? Trading Nylander and signing Dumba to a relatively similar cap hit would be a roster downgrade IMO.

- jfkst1



The only big concern is how much will Nylander want on the next contract - he has one more season left, and my guess is $8-9M. Personally, I say trade out Morgan Reilly, bring in a guy like Barrie from NSH to run the PP...I could see NSH making a Reilly for Barrie+ deal...others PP QBs of interest could be Vince Dunn, Josh Morrissey (if rumors of WPG blow-up are true), Devon Toews, Sam Girard, Aaron Ekblad, etc
ddMoose
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 08.27.2020

May 13 @ 1:34 PM ET
is that despite probably being the best forward in the series for the Maple leaves,
- Eklund


Oh come on, you did that on purpose this time.
greenyone
Joined: 02.20.2013

May 13 @ 1:40 PM ET
The Flyers have no need for Matt Murray. Why would they want him? No thanks.
- CupOnBroadSt.


I'm fairly certain nobody has any need for Matt Murray.
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

May 13 @ 2:03 PM ET
You do not want any part of DUMBA Trust me on this one
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

May 13 @ 2:12 PM ET
I'm fairly certain nobody has any need for Matt Murray.
- greenyone



Any teams looking to get to the cap floor? ARZ usually is open to taking a player on like that for a mid round pick...say Murray and a 2nd or 3rd for a 5th round?
DanielEtvs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.10.2006

May 13 @ 2:16 PM ET
Who is Jaspar Bratt 🤣
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

May 13 @ 2:23 PM ET
We want Florida 👏🏻 👏🏻, 👏🏻- 👏🏻- 👏🏻
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

May 13 @ 2:28 PM ET
We want Florida 👏🏻 👏🏻, 👏🏻- 👏🏻- 👏🏻
- I-own_da-Northwest


Theathletic is for libs
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.27.2020

May 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
Bratt is not worth the 10 mil his agent thinks he is. A regular season darling but an undersized playoff bystander. Yes he made a great play for the OT winner but can you remember him after that?

Trade bratt at draft recoup your first rounder lost for timo and resign timo.

Nj needs to get bigger/faster just like carolina showed them.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

May 13 @ 2:59 PM ET
Nj needs to get bigger/faster just like carolina showed them.
- Theathletic is for libs


Name the teams faster than NJD. Size and speed are often inversely correlated. Every team wants to get more size and speed. It's a rare combo in players.
Komisaurus Rex
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Its Danielle Smith & Scott Moe vs the WEF/CCP backed criminal tyrants, game on! 🤠, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

May 13 @ 4:01 PM ET
With teams like Boston, Tampa and Torontos windows closing and tough off-seasons ahead do we see a shift of power in the Atlantic?

Teams like Montreal, Detroit, Buffalo and Ottawa starting to rise to the top







Theathletic is for libs
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.27.2020

May 13 @ 4:28 PM ET
Name the teams faster than NJD. Size and speed are often inversely correlated. Every team wants to get more size and speed. It's a rare combo in players.
- jfkst1



Carolina clearly. And no its not overstated. Dummy

Tatar another one should be let go. Find someone bigger with same production not that difficult.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

May 13 @ 4:34 PM ET
Carolina clearly. And no its not overstated. Dummy

Tatar another one should be let go. Find someone bigger with same production not that difficult.

- Theathletic is for libs


Carolina isn't faster than Jersey. Mobility wasn't the deciding factor in the series. Carolina is a superior defensive team and denied Jersey possession into the zone and sustained zone time. In both cases largely because their dmen disrupt puck possession. Devils didn't face that level of team defense against the Rangers. Quite the opposite in fact.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 13 @ 4:41 PM ET
Henri Jokaharju and Victor Olofsson (50%) for Willie.
jtylerm
New Jersey Devils
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 13 @ 6:38 PM ET
@eklund get rid of Sam Woo’s female dog ass and get the Devils a regular writer. Why tf would I pay a dime as a Devs fan for Woo’s poop job covering the team? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 13 @ 6:58 PM ET
With teams like Boston, Tampa and Torontos windows closing and tough off-seasons ahead do we see a shift of power in the Atlantic?

Teams like Montreal, Detroit, Buffalo and Ottawa starting to rise to the top








- Komisaurus Rex



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