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Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 16 @ 11:42 AM ET
Sean Maloughney: Game 15: Oilers @ Jets - A Bit Less Exciting Please
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Nov 16 @ 11:51 AM ET
First!

Suck it Oil fans.

I liked your little YouTube video Sean, very cute.
I love how you give people the eye for mispronouncing your last name, when everybody is supposed to mispronounce your first name. Touché

Lots of points for McDavid and Drai please, butt still lose the game ok?!
Traveldude
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.08.2020

Nov 16 @ 12:42 PM ET
Keep trotting out McD and Drai for 25 minutes a night. Winning the regular season is all that matters. How has that worked out? What is this, the first game in a long time that the other team is rested or not playing some part of a B2B series? Winnipeg should be a relatively easy draw, as they have questionable defense and the coach is mixing up lines to have a top heavy lineup.
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Nov 16 @ 12:47 PM ET
100% agree on Keith and Ceci. Still can't believe that Chi didn't have to eat a couple mil on that contract. Horrible waste of 5.5 mil cap this year and next. At this point, I would almost rather see Russell out there in Keith's spot.......almost.

Hopefully Broberg continues to grow in the A and gets a look at some point. If Klefbom is never coming back, we are very weak on the LHD.
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Nov 16 @ 12:50 PM ET
Keep trotting out McD and Drai for 25 minutes a night. Winning the regular season is all that matters. How has that worked out? What is this, the first game in a long time that the other team is rested or not playing some part of a B2B series? Winnipeg should be a relatively easy draw, as they have questionable defense and the coach is mixing up lines to have a top heavy lineup.
- Traveldude


Lol, Winnipeg has questionable defense and a top heavy lineup, and we should have an advantage over them how exactly?

Goaltending?
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Nov 16 @ 1:25 PM ET
Lol, Winnipeg has questionable defense and a top heavy lineup, and we should have an advantage over them how exactly?

Goaltending?

- Beergu

We’ll see if the oil learned anything from last seasons playoffs.
Koskinen is holding them in many games right now. He’s getting shelled and is standing on his head. The game should have been 4-0 after the first the other night but they got lucky and Connor tied it with a second left. Can’t keep counting on that to happen every night.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 16 @ 1:29 PM ET
Ceci, Barrie and Turris have all been okay. Not as bad as last season by any means.

Keith is awful.
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Nov 16 @ 1:58 PM ET
Ceci, Barrie and Turris have all been okay. Not as bad as last season by any means.

Keith is awful.

- Oilers4Life14


I'm not a fan of Turris myself. Would rather see a Benson or Scevior out there with Foegele and McLeod.
Traveldude
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.08.2020

Nov 16 @ 3:00 PM ET
Lol, Winnipeg has questionable defense and a top heavy lineup, and we should have an advantage over them how exactly?

Goaltending?

- Beergu


Winnipeg is messing with their lines to put all the power on two lines. If you are playing McD 25 minutes, he will be facing the bottom 6 for some of those shifts. Their defense is right up there with EDM. Helly-dad is probably thinking more about family, so goaltending is a wash.



Traveldude
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.08.2020

Nov 16 @ 3:13 PM ET
Ceci, Barrie and Turris have all been okay. Not as bad as last season by any means.

Keith is awful.

- Oilers4Life14

I hear that Bear looks good. Is Foegele really showing that he was a better choice? Keith, Ceci, Barrie are all questionable at defense. I haven't watched Bouchard closely enough to know if he has the mobility to be good or not. Scoring should not be his concern. Enough of that elsewhere.

It's really hard to tell what this team is. Relying on 3 point efforts from two players or a 50% PP isn't sustainable. The schedule gets harder and scoring and PP chances dry up. Don't expect to get 5 PP's per game. If you are getting outscored 5v5 most of the time, then more losses will come.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Nov 16 @ 3:19 PM ET
I hear that Bear looks good. Is Foegele really showing that he was a better choice? Keith, Ceci, Barrie are all questionable at defense. I haven't watched Bouchard closely enough to know if he has the mobility to be good or not. Scoring should not be his concern. Enough of that elsewhere.

It's really hard to tell what this team is. Relying on 3 point efforts from two players or a 50% PP isn't sustainable. The schedule gets harder and scoring and PP chances dry up. Don't expect to get 5 PP's per game. If you are getting outscored 5v5 most of the time, then more losses will come.

- Traveldude

Bear has been really good for Carolina. Foegle has been ok. Bear was likely gone because of Bouchard who has replaced him pretty well.
WendelClark82
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 12.08.2012

Nov 16 @ 4:27 PM ET
Any update on Holloway? I've been offered Holloway and a 1st round pick 2022 (not top 10 protected) in my fantasy keeper league for Drysdale.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Nov 16 @ 5:48 PM ET
I hear that Bear looks good. Is Foegele really showing that he was a better choice? Keith, Ceci, Barrie are all questionable at defense. I haven't watched Bouchard closely enough to know if he has the mobility to be good or not. Scoring should not be his concern. Enough of that elsewhere.

It's really hard to tell what this team is. Relying on 3 point efforts from two players or a 50% PP isn't sustainable. The schedule gets harder and scoring and PP chances dry up. Don't expect to get 5 PP's per game. If you are getting outscored 5v5 most of the time, then more losses will come.

- Traveldude


Are you under the impression that the Oil are getting more PPs per game than the average NHL team?
Sean Maloughney
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.21.2020

Nov 16 @ 6:52 PM ET
Any update on Holloway? I've been offered Holloway and a 1st round pick 2022 (not top 10 protected) in my fantasy keeper league for Drysdale.
- WendelClark82

Likely not ready until at least January and even then I wouldn't expect him to get any NHL action until March at the earliest. A first round pick for Drysdale alone sounds ridiculous but the guy is offering Holloway too? Without knowing your format that sounds like an easy trade for you.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Nov 16 @ 9:14 PM ET
Koskinen should have had that one but he made 3 huge saves just before it.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Nov 16 @ 11:10 PM ET
All these incells from Calgary taking all their sexual frustrations out on the Oilers fans. its pretty sad, really...but also funny.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Nov 16 @ 11:14 PM ET
I hear that Bear looks good. Is Foegele really showing that he was a better choice? Keith, Ceci, Barrie are all questionable at defense. I haven't watched Bouchard closely enough to know if he has the mobility to be good or not. Scoring should not be his concern. Enough of that elsewhere.

It's really hard to tell what this team is. Relying on 3 point efforts from two players or a 50% PP isn't sustainable. The schedule gets harder and scoring and PP chances dry up. Don't expect to get 5 PP's per game. If you are getting outscored 5v5 most of the time, then more losses will come.

- Traveldude


Bear was ready to go, too many racist Hillbillys in Alberta.
Traveldude
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.08.2020

Nov 17 @ 12:01 AM ET
Are you under the impression that the Oil are getting more PPs per game than the average NHL team?
- RonPielep

Overall? No, about mid pack.
Some games > 5 per game.
Against the Ducks 6 for 1 against.
Against Buffalo 6 for 3 against.


wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fire Bowman., AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Nov 17 @ 6:19 AM ET
Unsustainable? What are the odds of hanging on to a playoff spot with all these loser points? 5 OTL out of 16 games isn't a successful game plan. Schedule will only get tougher. Can't keep playing teams like Montreal, Ottawa, San Jose, and Pittsburgh riddled with injuries and covid cases. Nor losing to "lesser teams" like Edmonton, Anaheim, Nashville, Dallas, San Jose, and Montreal.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 17 @ 8:40 AM ET
I hear that Bear looks good. Is Foegele really showing that he was a better choice? Keith, Ceci, Barrie are all questionable at defense. I haven't watched Bouchard closely enough to know if he has the mobility to be good or not. Scoring should not be his concern. Enough of that elsewhere.

It's really hard to tell what this team is. Relying on 3 point efforts from two players or a 50% PP isn't sustainable. The schedule gets harder and scoring and PP chances dry up. Don't expect to get 5 PP's per game. If you are getting outscored 5v5 most of the time, then more losses will come.

- Traveldude

The bolded part is correct. The proportion of the Oilers' wins that are on completely reliant on such performances is FAR too high. Part of that will come by properly slotting and breaking whatever curse is on Derek Ryan, not playing Kassian ever, and finding another 2 capable bottom-6 players.

The rest of your points are hit and miss for me.

Foegele has been fine and easily the team's best bottom-6 forward by my estimation (low bar). He's had his share of mistakes but I can't fault him for his goal differential given who he sees the bulk of his ice time with. Not currently worth Bear in a 1-for-1, but he brings a lot of qualities this team will need in the post-season. I'll reserve full judgement until I see him a.) in the postseason and b.) on an appropriately skilled 3rd line.

Unlike others I've seen here, I haven't minded the defensive games of Keith or Ceci (Barrie is objectively bad there). They've been bad on some nights (like last night, apparently) but when I've watched, I haven't seen the glaring problems others seem to be. Koekkoek on the other hand...

Bouchard's mobility has surprised me in a good way given the scouting reports suggested that was a likely weakness. Even his intensity level has been better than reports suggested- though there's room for improvement in both.

If I recall correctly, the data on number of PPs between regular and post-season actually see playoff games have more PPs. Whether that'll be the case for the Oilers, though, is another matter. Penalties are often drawn when pushing the opposition back on their heels with skill, hardwork, and smart positioning and the Oilers' bottom-6 doesn't have/do enough of any of that.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Nov 17 @ 12:09 PM ET
Bear was ready to go, too many racist Hillbillys in Alberta.
- HonkyTonkMan

Have you been to the Carolinas??
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Nov 17 @ 12:31 PM ET
Have you been to the Carolinas??
- TurdFergeson



Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Nov 17 @ 2:49 PM ET
Have you been to the Carolinas??
- TurdFergeson


Yeah, but they don't bug him there. They're all at the NASCAR track.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 18 @ 9:46 PM ET
I hear that Bear looks good. Is Foegele really showing that he was a better choice? Keith, Ceci, Barrie are all questionable at defense. I haven't watched Bouchard closely enough to know if he has the mobility to be good or not. Scoring should not be his concern. Enough of that elsewhere.

It's really hard to tell what this team is. Relying on 3 point efforts from two players or a 50% PP isn't sustainable. The schedule gets harder and scoring and PP chances dry up. Don't expect to get 5 PP's per game. If you are getting outscored 5v5 most of the time, then more losses will come.

- Traveldude


Yeah, I like Bear. Glad he's on a much better defensive team. Can't hate on Foegele too much. Guy is an effective forechecker and has been a decent middle six player.

Barrie isn't good, but sheltered minutes has certainly helped him. Ceci hasn't been as bad as one would expect. It doesn't help he's playing with Keith, who I think I'm faster than on skates.

Makes me wonder how Bouchard didn't get minutes last season.