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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Sep 22 @ 1:51 PM ET
Carol Schram: Canucks' cuts continue after wild 7-5 loss to the Kings in Salt Lake City Adam Gaudette and Tyler Motte are making sure they're not forgotten in the Vancouver Canucks' forward logjam as more cuts are made and the Canucks' drop a 7-5 decision to the Los Angeles Kings in Salt Lake City on Saturday.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 22 @ 2:19 PM ET
I'm okay moving on from Jake if he doesn't step it up.

Only a matter of time for Goldy.

Some assets in return would be nice.
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Sep 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
I don’t see either Jake or Goldy being strong contributors to this team and its nearing a time to see what their return would be in a trade.

I’ve said previously that I would take a chance on Puljujarvi...would consider him in exchange for one or both of Jake & Goldy. Maybe he’s got a bad attitude, but Edm has almost certainly contributed to that. A fresh start might be good motivation.

Prior to Big Buf’s suspension/retirement, I thought the Jets would be a good trade partner, but that seems less likely now. Maybe Buffalo, with a package for Risto?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 22 @ 2:45 PM ET
Jake for Pool Party

Goldobin for a 3rd/4th
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:57 PM ET
Jake for Pool Party

Goldobin for a 3rd/4th

- VanHockeyGuy



After the Abbottsford game.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:58 PM ET
Thanks Carol.

I don't think the team can recoup "assets" for either Virtanen or Goldobin. Other teams GM aren't likely to pull a Benning and give up anything of quality for a player about to hit the waiver wire.
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Sep 22 @ 3:00 PM ET
Jake for Pool Party

Goldobin for a 3rd/4th

- VanHockeyGuy


Would you consider adding in Tryamkin’s rights in a package with Goldy? Whether Tree returns to Vcr might be influenced by having other young Russians on the team. Podz is still a year & a half away at the earliest. Of course, you’d have to believe Tree can be a contributor if he came back before you worried about that...
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 22 @ 3:01 PM ET
Would you consider adding in Tryamkin’s rights in a package with Goldy? Whether Tree returns to Vcr might be influenced by having other young Russians on the team. Podz is still a year & a half away at the earliest. Of course, you’d have to believe Tree can be a contributor if he came back before you worried about that...
- SlightlyOffside


Sure, providing it's a fair return.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 22 @ 3:02 PM ET
Thanks Carol.

I don't think the team can recoup "assets" for either Virtanen or Goldobin. Other teams GM aren't likely to pull a Benning and give up anything of quality for a player about to hit the waiver wire.

- 1970vintage


Jake still has some value.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 22 @ 3:05 PM ET
Jake still has some value.
- VanHockeyGuy


I doubt it. You'll get a similarly un spectacular player who hasn't lived up to their potential. The team doesn't really need that.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 22 @ 3:07 PM ET
Thanks Carol.

I don't think the team can recoup "assets" for either Virtanen or Goldobin. Other teams GM aren't likely to pull a Benning and give up anything of quality for a player about to hit the waiver wire.

- 1970vintage


Other teams have expressed interest . It won't be a huge return but OH There Is A Return.

Goldobin is really over rated. Send him to the Comets for all I care.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 22 @ 3:08 PM ET
I doubt it. You'll get a similarly un spectacular player who hasn't lived up to their potential. The team doesn't really need that.
- 1970vintage


Sometimes it's just a change of scenery. See Marcus Naslund, Cam Neely
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 22 @ 3:09 PM ET
Other teams have expressed interest . It won't be a huge return but OH There Is A Return.

Goldobin is really over rated. Send him to the Comets for all I care.

- VANTEL


Maybe a 2nd tops.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Sep 22 @ 3:10 PM ET
I doubt it. You'll get a similarly un spectacular player who hasn't lived up to their potential. The team doesn't really need that.
- 1970vintage


Jake for Pool Party is fair imo.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 22 @ 3:13 PM ET
Other teams have expressed interest . It won't be a huge return but OH There Is A Return.

Goldobin is really over rated. Send him to the Comets for all I care.

- VANTEL


I don't believe the Canucks can get a draft pick for either player. To me it would be a player for player situation. If it's a winger for a D, then it will be Benning who's adding a sweetener...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 22 @ 3:18 PM ET
Maybe a 2nd tops.
- VanHockeyGuy


It could be a couple of things. Vintsy isn't wrong it won't be spectacular but he can be packaged . He can also be traded for a guy for a team looking to get younger . LA comes to mind Tofolli for Goldy Jake and Schaller brings the salary close.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 22 @ 3:19 PM ET
Jake for Pool Party is fair imo.
- pker2theend


Doesn't really help the team does it? Would Vancouver sign him and bring him over after missing all of training camp and pre-season? He would have to win a spot by going down to Utica, or the Canucks would have to be confident he was a better option than an existing player. I don't see it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 22 @ 3:21 PM ET
I don't believe the Canucks can get a draft pick for either player. To me it would be a player for player situation. If it's a winger for a D, then it will be Benning who's adding a sweetener...
- 1970vintage


Habs LA Edm have expressed interest in Jake. You are not wrong but Benning won't be adding a draft pick to move Jake . That would be suicide .
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 22 @ 3:23 PM ET
Doesn't really help the team does it? Would Vancouver sign him and bring him over after missing all of training camp and pre-season? He would have to win a spot by going down to Utica, or the Canucks would have to be confident he was a better option than an existing player. I don't see it.
- 1970vintage



He has an out on his contract and has 5 points in 5 games this year . He is up to game speed,
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 22 @ 3:23 PM ET
It could be a couple of things. Vintsy isn't wrong it won't be spectacular but he can be packaged . He can also be traded for a guy for a team looking to get younger . LA comes to mind Tofolli for Goldy Jake and Schaller brings the salary close.
- VANTEL


Best way to go, you need a fair return though.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 22 @ 3:24 PM ET
He has an out on his contract and has 5 points in 5 games this year . He is up to game speed,
- VANTEL


Roll the dice.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 22 @ 3:25 PM ET
Respect for Boeser on the shape he reported in. His conditioning doesnt look like he missed any time at camp. Showed up without his usual chubbiness and his moving very well. He just needs to dial his hands in a bit.

I don't think you are going to see any groin issues etc this season. Aside from normal in game risks, I predict he'll have a healthy season and most likely a career season on top of that.
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Sep 22 @ 3:27 PM ET
Doesn't really help the team does it? Would Vancouver sign him and bring him over after missing all of training camp and pre-season? He would have to win a spot by going down to Utica, or the Canucks would have to be confident he was a better option than an existing player. I don't see it.
- 1970vintage


JP is playing in the Finnish Elite League (SM-Liga) where he appears to be doing ok — 1 ppl through 5 games. I think you could give him a chance to show what he can do before sending him down.

It’s a long shot that he is a better option than Pearson, Leivo, Motte, or Eriksson...but the bet would be that he can be better for the Canucks than someone like Jake or Goldy. Don’t know if he would be, but neither Jake nor Goldy appear poised to do anything other than sit in the press box or the end of the bench playing 5-10 minutes per game.


1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 22 @ 3:27 PM ET
He has an out on his contract and has 5 points in 5 games this year . He is up to game speed,
- VANTEL


Year, until Dec. but are you confident he would be better than one of the Canucks top 6/9 forwards? Palmu did pretty well in the Fin league...
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Sep 22 @ 3:28 PM ET
JP is playing in the Finnish Elite League (SM-Liga) where he appears to be doing ok — 1 ppl through 5 games. I think you could give him a chance to show what he can do before sending him down.

It’s a long shot that he is a better option than Pearson, Leivo, Motte, or Eriksson...but the bet would be that he can be better for the Canucks than someone like Jake or Goldy. Don’t know if he would be, but neither Jake nor Goldy appear poised to do anything other than sit in the press box or the end of the bench playing 5-10 minutes per game.

- SlightlyOffside


EDIT meant 1 ppg (1 goal, 4 assists, 5 games)
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