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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Dec 22 @ 2:16 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Game Day: Dec 22 at Tampa Bay Lightning, Henrik Sedin In Captain Henrik Sedin will be back in the lineup as the Vancouver Canucks wrap up their pre-Christmas road trip with a Tuesday night matchup against the Tampa Bay Lightning.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 22 @ 2:17 PM ET
Thanks Carol!! Frist!!!!
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 22 @ 2:24 PM ET
Higgins with a maintenance day

The only maintenance he should be performing is scrubbing toilets at the Rog.

Miller out is good/bad. Need to get a damn good look at Markstrom for 4-5 in a row but we need Miller healthy for TDL as well...tough one...
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 22 @ 2:25 PM ET
Love the comment from McCann, what's not to like this far into his career?
No higgins in the lineup nooooo!!
if they take Weber out, I will have very little to complain about
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 22 @ 2:27 PM ET
Darius Chicago had prospects ready to step in , are you suggesting Canucks didn't?

I would take Gaunce Shink and Grenier over the more expensive Burrows or Higgins any day . Canucks do have prospects but we cant let go of safe players
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
Chicago bought out their goalie, moved Sharp, Campbell , and younger pieces like Saad Pirrili and were even thinking about Crawford at one point and Kane this summer.

Smart management . No player is more important than the organization

- VANTEL

That's completely different than trading the twins, which is what we're talking about, as you started the conversation about Doan.

They gutted their organization because of two players, Toews and Kane make 21 million dollars between them, if you ad Keith, Seabrook and Crawford it's almost 40 million for those five players.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Dec 22 @ 2:30 PM ET
This was just on Bob Mackenzies Twitter:

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 22 @ 2:37 PM ET
That's completely different than trading the twins, which is what we're talking about, as you started the conversation about Doan.

They gutted their organization because of two players, Toews and Kane make 21 million dollars between them, if you ad Keith, Seabrook and Crawford it's almost 40 million for those five players.

- LeftCoaster

And they win cups.

Sharps playoff numbers are off the charts. Better than both the twins , he has obviously played more games but is a clutch player. He has 4 x 30 plus goal years and 3 x20 plus goals. He is in the same neck of the woods as the twins.

My comment comment is more about organizations that hang on too long to players. Not to beat that dead horse but I said trade Burr Vrbata and Hamhuis last summer and put Higgins on waivers. It is definitely looking like the right thing that should have been done today.

Canucks sooner or later have to pull that bandaid off. They longer we wait the less value the return will be .
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 22 @ 2:39 PM ET
Darius Chicago had prospects ready to step in , are you suggesting Canucks didn't?

I would take Gaunce Shink and Grenier over the more expensive Burrows or Higgins any day. Canucks do have prospects but we cant let go of safe players

- VANTEL


Benning has been on the job for a year and a half and he's moved out a lot of veteran players so that's a bunch of bullpoop. I believe he's come to the realization this team needs to rebuild more than retool, my opinion is those two guys won't be on the team next year.

FYI...all these guys have been moved out or not re-signed by Benning.

Matthias
Richardson
Bieksa
Bonino
Stanton
Kassian
Clendening
Kesler
Garrison
Santorelli
Schroeder
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
@ Vantel.
You can't really say that if we had traded all those vets last year we'd be in a better position.
We might be.
But we might have drafted duds and rushed/ruined prospects and not had enough leadership/mentorship going forward.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
And they win cups.

Sharps playoff numbers are off the charts. Better than both the twins , he has obviously played more games but is a clutch player. He has 4 x 30 plus goal years and 3 x20 plus goals. He is in the same neck of the woods as the twins.

My comment comment is more about organizations that hang on too long to players. Not to beat that dead horse but I said trade Burr Vrbata and Hamhuis last summer and put Higgins on waivers. It is definitely looking like the right thing that should have been done today.

Canucks sooner or later have to pull that bandaid off. They longer we wait the less value the return will be .

- VANTEL

But Toews, Kane, Keith and Seabrook weren't acquired from trading away older players, which was your point, they were acquired because they sucked and got higher picks.

You're speaking out both sides of your mouth, also, Los Angeles didn't win Cups from trading older players away, they got good from drafting really well with good picks.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 22 @ 3:06 PM ET
we need some veterans on the team. It's essential
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 22 @ 3:07 PM ET
we need some veterans on the team. It's essential
- SMBDragon

I'd like some different ones though
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 22 @ 3:16 PM ET
Just for poops and giggles, under Benning I think there's been something like seven kids play their first NHL game, change is here but it's a slow'ish process.

McCann
Horvat
Virtanen
Shinkaruk
Grenier
Gaunce
Pedan
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 22 @ 3:17 PM ET
Merry Christmas, Carol!!
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 22 @ 3:18 PM ET
And they win cups.

Sharps playoff numbers are off the charts. Better than both the twins , he has obviously played more games but is a clutch player. He has 4 x 30 plus goal years and 3 x20 plus goals. He is in the same neck of the woods as the twins.

My comment comment is more about organizations that hang on too long to players. Not to beat that dead horse but I said trade Burr Vrbata and Hamhuis last summer and put Higgins on waivers. It is definitely looking like the right thing that should have been done today.

Canucks sooner or later have to pull that bandaid off. They longer we wait the less value the return will be .

- VANTEL


In 20 more games he's got 3 more playoff points than Henrik, I was curious so I checked. He's a good playoff guy, no doubt but so are the twins, even though people in Van seem to hate on them that time of year.

That being said, I have no problem dealing the Sedin's if the right package was there to make the team better three years from now cause that's the reality that management needs to embrace IMO
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 22 @ 3:19 PM ET
Desjardins on Biega: "He's been good, he competes hard, I like that in him. He's excited to be up here and he's been a good fit." #Canucks

I agree...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 22 @ 3:20 PM ET
@ Vantel.
You can't really say that if we had traded all those vets last year we'd be in a better position.
We might be.
But we might have drafted duds and rushed/ruined prospects and not had enough leadership/mentorship going forward.

- dbot


After teams catch up to us in games played we should be sitting at 4 th from the bottom so it really couldn't have hurt much
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 22 @ 3:21 PM ET
Still talking about trading the twins.
F*ck it, I'm out of here. Have a Merry Christmas everyone!!
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 22 @ 3:23 PM ET
Dec 22, '84 Hartford rookie @rayferrarotsn scored his 1st goal & got 3 assists in 10-5 loss to Mtl (via @scicirello)

"Unfortunately I was also -4...was on the ice for 8 of 15 goals! Coach told me I was a threat at both ends of the ice"

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 22 @ 3:25 PM ET
Benning has been on the job for a year and a half and he's moved out a lot of veteran players so that's a bunch of bullpoop. I believe he's come to the realization this team needs to rebuild more than retool, my opinion is those two guys won't be on the team next year.

FYI...all these guys have been moved out or not re-signed by Benning.

Matthias
Richardson
Bieksa
Bonino
Stanton
Kassian
Clendening
Kesler
Garrison
Santorelli
Schroeder

- LeftCoaster


I like Benning and think he is doing a good job but Matthias Santorelli STanton
Schroeder Richardson all walked for free.

He was forced to trad Kesler .

He has moved 2 vets with Bieksa and Garrison , there is a whole lot more. I think this year will be a big year for saying goodbye to players.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 22 @ 3:25 PM ET
This was just on Bob Mackenzies Twitter:


- fiveandagame


Does this mean Donald Trump wins?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 22 @ 3:26 PM ET
Still talking about trading the twins.
F*ck it, I'm out of here. Have a Merry Christmas everyone!!

- Marwood

You and the Mrs all the best
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 22 @ 3:27 PM ET
"He (Miller) has started 28 of the Canucks 35 games. One goalie in the league has started more, Pekka Rinne, who is two years younger than Miller"

Markstrom needs to play more!!!
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 22 @ 3:32 PM ET
"He (Miller) has started 28 of the Canucks 35 games. One goalie in the league has started more, Pekka Rinne, who is two years younger than Miller"

Markstrom needs to play more!!!

- LeftCoaster


Half of the battle was Markstom's pre-season injury in practice.
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