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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Dec 4 @ 3:06 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Game Review: A One-Line Team is Getting Desperate The Vancouver Canucks gave their fans plenty of reason for concern when they dropped a 4-2 decision to the Dallas Stars to open their four-game homestand on Thursday night.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Dec 4 @ 3:07 PM ET
reserved, about to catch a flight. i'll post in this slot later.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Dec 4 @ 3:17 PM ET
Thank you Carol for such a straight forward honest evaluation of what the real story is here in Vancouver. Our team is in huge trouble until we get a second line that can score some goals. Without the Sedins this team wold still be looking for their first win of the season. The look on Ryan Millers face when Spezza empty netter says it all. You can not blame Miller or the Sedins for this sad bunch. I hate to sound so negative but it is getting pretty depressing watching most of our forwards doing pretty much nothing. It won't be long before you see Shinkaruk and Gaunce a shot. Swap em out for a few games with Baerstchi and McCann. McCann is a future player but not ready now, thank god Getzlaf was nice to him the other night, lol
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 4 @ 3:20 PM ET
Thank you Carol!

No Hammer at practice? Trade? lol...

I know many of us have been frustrated with Hammer and this aging core o vets but it will turn around eventually. I'm not too worried about this season as I want to see what happens with the youth development after TDL. I know playoffs are on the radar for ownership but sooner or later they will have to come to grips with the drafting and developing process that needs to take place here.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 4 @ 3:20 PM ET
This one line scoring is nothing new.it has been here for years. No one can figure out why.

Some of it seems obvious to me bit I know everyone will shoot it down.

First of all the prime scoring starts like icing , offensive zone starts and PP are handed to the Sedins and Edler. Good for them bad for the other players on the team.

The Canucks scoring is built around the style of the Sedins , cycle cycle so on an so on. They are very good at it and find success . We play an outside soft game and it's not the way most players play. Very little driving the net and paying the price.

Once a player who found success in other systems and find it hard to adapt to this style suffer. Look at Vrbata he is a defeted player right now.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Dec 4 @ 3:23 PM ET
If you take out Prust and Dorsett I do not think there is an easier team to play against than Vancouver. Sbisa is the only physical dman and we need some toughness. Many people just do not give the Sedin's enough credit. We have been so fortunate to have had these two superstars to watch for the last decade. They are worth the price of admission how they can move that puck to each other successfully even when the other team knows the pass is coming but they cannot defend against the cycle. Truly amazing, nobody in the nhl does it better.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Dec 4 @ 3:25 PM ET
The big Russian looked great last night ...hopefully JV can take notes

Is Miller UFA at year end or one more year ? It's only a matter of time before he blows a gasket ...markstrom looks like he could go on a run as well so I can't imagine that helps millers mind frame
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 4 @ 3:30 PM ET
reserved, about to catch a flight. i'll post in this slot later.
- kaptaan


classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Dec 4 @ 3:33 PM ET
The big Russian looked great last night ...hopefully JV can take notes

Is Miller UFA at year end or one more year ? It's only a matter of time before he blows a gasket ...markstrom looks like he could go on a run as well so I can't imagine that helps millers mind frame

- Redmile247



John Scott would look Great playing Jamie Benn and Sequin

The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Dec 4 @ 3:34 PM ET
We score goals not the problem even tho we are a one line tram. Aren't we I the top third of the league in goals for? Our de is an absolute nightmare. All of it. Without the sedins were probably last in the league tho
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 4 @ 3:38 PM ET
If you take out Prust and Dorsett I do not think there is an easier team to play against than Vancouver. Sbisa is the only physical dman and we need some toughness. Many people just do not give the Sedin's enough credit. We have been so fortunate to have had these two superstars to watch for the last decade. They are worth the price of admission how they can move that puck to each other successfully even when the other team knows the pass is coming but they cannot defend against the cycle. Truly amazing, nobody in the nhl does it better.
- joegreif17


The Sedins are very good. But what I find funny is Kenins is brought up and does his thing, told to play a hard nosed, north to south kind of game. When he doesn't hit, he gets taken out of the lineup. The team holds the wrong players accountable at times.

With both Prust and Dorsett on the same line, I think one of them is expendable. I didn't like that staged fight, no play leading up to it, just talking at the face off and then it starts.

If Hamhuis is still hurt, why not give Pedan a look?

I am not sure if Hamhuis is trying to play through an injury or delay a surgery, but he hasn't looked very good. If he is injured, maybe he should have his surgery and go on ltir, won't be worth anything at the tdl playing like that.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Dec 4 @ 3:43 PM ET
This one line scoring is nothing new.it has been here for years. No one can figure out why.

Some of it seems obvious to me bit I know everyone will shoot it down.

First of all the prime scoring starts like icing , offensive zone starts and PP are handed to the Sedins and Edler. Good for them bad for the other players on the team.

The Canucks scoring is built around the style of the Sedins , cycle cycle so on an so on. They are very good at it and find success . We play an outside soft game and it's not the way most players play. Very little driving the net and paying the price.

Once a player who found success in other systems and find it hard to adapt to this style suffer. Look at Vrbata he is a defeted player right now.

- VANTEL

lol. it's all the sedins' fault!!!!!!!!!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 4 @ 3:44 PM ET
The Sedins are very good. But what I find funny is Kenins is brought up and does his thing, told to play a hard nosed, north to south kind of game. When he doesn't hit, he gets taken out of the lineup. The team holds the wrong players accountable at times.

With both Prust and Dorsett on the same line, I think one of them is expendable. I didn't like that staged fight, no play leading up to it, just talking at the face off and then it starts.

If Hamhuis is still hurt, why not give Pedan a look?

I am not sure if Hamhuis is trying to play through an injury or delay a surgery, but he hasn't looked very good. If he is injured, maybe he should have his surgery and go on ltir, won't be worth anything at the tdl playing like that.

- hillbillydeluxe


Willie hands out very short leashes. Very hard to play with confidence or learn if you keep getting sent to the pressbox
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 4 @ 3:45 PM ET
lol. it's all the sedins' fault!!!!!!!!!
- RealityChecker

Why do you think that
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 4 @ 3:47 PM ET
lol. it's all the sedins' fault!!!!!!!!!
- RealityChecker

I'm thinking of blaming all of Sweden, but we all know why the Canucks suck.................Nucker.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Dec 4 @ 3:49 PM ET
lol. it's all the sedins' fault!!!!!!!!!
- RealityChecker


If anything the Sedins are the victims here. No chance for a stanley cup as long as they stay in Vancouver.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Dec 4 @ 3:50 PM ET
Why do you think that
- VANTEL

just something i read.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 4 @ 3:52 PM ET
lol. it's all the sedins' fault!!!!!!!!!
- RealityChecker


I don't think it is the Sedin's fault, but it is a strange dynamic when the top line plays one way and the rest of the team has to play another, because they are not the Sedins, and you don't want them to play that way.

The Sedins dump the puck in and go get it, and they position themselves and use their sticks to win the battle, i think we have guys that should be more physical, yet they aren't and lose too many puck battles.

I can't complain about Horvat or McCann, they are young and still learning, But some of the other guys, I hear the gripes towards Sven and I don't think he is playing any worse than Higgins or Burrows at times. Prust is okay, but I'd rather see Gaunce or Grenier get the opportunity.

Have we seen a Burrows- McCann- Vrbata line yet? We really miss Sutter.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Dec 4 @ 3:53 PM ET
John Scott would look Great playing Jamie Benn and Sequin


- classic321


Your right ...John Scott can make nice lil behind the back passes from behind the net ...and he can make power moves like Val did last night whenever he wants ...it's no wonder he is going to be an all star
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 4 @ 3:54 PM ET
just something i read.
- RealityChecker

You should try reading it again and this time read it with an open mind.

I didn't say one thing bad about them infact I said they are very good at what they do.

The point I was making is that the secondary scoring is like being the back up goalie to Richard Brodeur . If you get one in every twenty start chances are you won't be that good.

It works very well for Broduer but not so much for his many back ups that came and went.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 4 @ 3:56 PM ET
If anything the Sedins are the victims here. No chance for a stanley cup as long as they stay in Vancouver.
- SRam19


Its funny, I thought I heard the Stars being called a one line team, but they have other guys stepping up and contributing...

We should be right there in the hunt. Maybe the Sedins have no chance at a Stanley cup as long as Burrows, Higgins, Prust, Weber, etc... stay here?

Is the status quo acceptable? who will do what to change it?
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Dec 4 @ 4:01 PM ET
Jays sign Josh Thole!!!

I'm officially switching to Bell. (frank) you Rogers.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 4 @ 4:02 PM ET
Florida Marlins hired Barry Bonds as a hitting coach.




Reports of three cargo ships of steroids were just seen leaving Cuba
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Dec 4 @ 4:04 PM ET
Your right ...John Scott can make nice lil behind the back passes from behind the net ...and he can make power moves like Val did last night whenever he wants ...it's no wonder he is going to be an all star
- Redmile247



BEHIND THE BACK PASS

Are you serious???????
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Dec 4 @ 4:04 PM ET
Horvat is having a major sophomore slump.
We don't need to panic. Losing is good. Games are entertaining, enjoy the rebuild, it's going to be a lot quicker than most teams.
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