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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

May 5 @ 2:19 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Waiting it Out, Wide-Ranging Jim Benning Interview As Canucks fans wait to see how the summer will play out, Jim Benning sat down with Scott Rintoul on Monday to assess the team's playoff performance and talk about future plans for the organization.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

May 5 @ 2:25 PM ET
Bieksa sucks
Edler sucks
Hamhuis sucks
Sbisa sucks
Weber sucks

Trade all of them. Get some real defense in.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

May 5 @ 2:26 PM ET
No need to worry I beliebe in JB
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 5 @ 2:27 PM ET
This is a work in progress, gonna take time for things to come together I'm afraid. Definitely an interesting draft and summer ahead for the Canucks!!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 5 @ 2:29 PM ET
Bieksa sucks
Edler sucks
Hamhuis sucks
Sbisa sucks
Weber sucks

Trade all of them. Get some real defense in.

- I-own_da-Northwest



Edler works well with Tanev, but I agree that if he's asked to carry a pairing, it doesn't end well and I feel like Tanev is the better player and probably our best d-man. I wouldn't be too sad if Edler was dealt but Benning has a hard-on for big d-men.

Hamhuis is still good, he played with poop as his D partners all year long and still played like a top 4 d-man.

Th rest can go (frank) themselves.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 5 @ 2:30 PM ET
No need to worry I beliebe in JB
- SRam19



So do I.



VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 5 @ 2:32 PM ET
I’m not feeling very comfortable after JB’s last interview on TSN reflecting on the Calgary series. Comments like “they kept coming and coming” and “they took it to us physically” are perplexing

Didn’t Jim Benning’s Boston Bruin’s do the same thing to us in 2011 in the Stanley Cup finals? I’m also assuming he must have watched how LA took us out in 5 games en route to their Stanley Cup Championship in 2012! By doing the same thing, give me a break!

This should come as no surprise to Canuck’s management, there is a recipe to playoff success. Management is very clear they don’t intend to go backwards, and want to get younger but are also adamant they won’t hand young players jobs.

Knowing all this, the plan next season is…
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

May 5 @ 2:32 PM ET
Bieksa sucks
Edler sucks
Hamhuis sucks
Sbisa sucks
Weber sucks

Trade all of them. Get some real defense in.

- I-own_da-Northwest

Great insight. Thanks for the contribution.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

May 5 @ 2:33 PM ET
I’m not feeling very comfortable after JB’s last interview on TSN reflecting on the Calgary series. Comments like “they kept coming and coming” and “they took it to us physically” are perplexing

Didn’t Jim Benning’s Boston Bruin’s do the same thing to us in 2011 in the Stanley Cup finals? I’m also assuming he must have watched how LA took us out in 5 games en route to their Stanley Cup Championship in 2012! By doing the same thing, give me a break!

This should come as no surprise to Canuck’s management, there is a recipe to playoff success. Management is very clear they don’t intend to go backwards, and want to get younger but are also adamant they won’t hand young players jobs.

Knowing all this, the plan next season is…

- VanHockeyGuy

How is that perplexing? The guy said what everyone in Vancity saw. Atleast he isnt trying to completely bullshyt us with some ridiculous answer.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 5 @ 2:34 PM ET
Carol! “For me, it's far too early”? This is the time of year the marketers and spin doctors go to work. Lets have a look at EDM, how will season ticket sales go this year, pretty good. How about CAL? Ditto. Now let’s have a look at VAN, what are you selling? The masses will ask. Jake & McCann? Nope, “what have you done lately” that would make me want to invest in your product? EDM & CAL can say “We have, done this” VAN? not so much. Something has to happen soon to change that perception. This is about money and sales.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 5 @ 2:38 PM ET
How is that perplexing? The guy said what everyone in Vancity saw. Atleast he isnt trying to completely bullshyt us with some ridiculous answer.
- vancity787


Perplexing as in he doesn't have an answer, even though this has been a problem with this team for years. Fail to plan...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 5 @ 2:40 PM ET
How is that perplexing? The guy said what everyone in Vancity saw. Atleast he isnt trying to completely bullshyt us with some ridiculous answer.
- vancity787


I think what he's saying is that Bnening should have already witnessed this in the past from our series against teams like his Bruins, the Kings, and the Sharks. It sounds like Bnening was surprised when most of the fans really weren't. This team has a good work ethic, but they aren't fast, big or skilled enough.

For example guys like Dorsett/Higgins/Burrows who are so valuable during the season when they out work their opponent become more ordinary and mediocre in the playoffs when every player is going at 110%. That's where other attributes like hockey sense, size, speed and skill become more important than just working hard.

Basically this teams more natural raw ability, physically and in terms of skill.

The defense also needs a lot of work, Tanev-Edler played well. But Hamhuis has had to carry scrubs all year long. also Dumb and Dumber were a liability, it's basically almost like a PK whenever they're on the ice.


Outside of the Sedins, Vrbata, Tanev/Edler and Hamhuis. This team just seems like a bunch of spare parts thrown together(I'll also exclude Horvat who had a very good rookie season and is a key piece moving forward).
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

May 5 @ 2:42 PM ET
So do I.




- Nucker101


If you Beliebe you can achiebe
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 5 @ 2:43 PM ET
I think what he's saying is that Bnening should have already witnessed this in the past from our series against teams like his Bruins, the Kings, and the Sharks. It sounds like Bnening was surprised when most of the fans really weren't. This team has a good work ethic, but they aren't fast, big or skilled enough.

For example guys like Dorsett/Higgins/Burrows who are so valuable during the season when they out work their opponent become more ordinary and mediocre in the playoffs when every player is going at 110%. That's where other attributes like hockey sense, size, speed and skill become more important than just working hard.

Basically this teams more natural raw ability, physically and in terms of skill.

The defense also needs a lot of work, Tanev-Edler played well. But Hamhuis has had to carry scrubs all year long. also Dumb and Dumber were a liability, it's basically almost like a PK whenever they're on the ice.

- Nucker101


The defence is a joke, they are weak and get pushed around.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 5 @ 2:46 PM ET
Perplexing as in he doesn't have an answer, even though this has been a problem with this team for years. Fail to plan...
-VanHockeyGuy


I dont think its a failure to plan, I think it was seeing and working with what he had to make the playoffs this year. Now he knows the types of players he has and who doesn't fit, you can't turn over a new roster in 10 months
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 5 @ 2:47 PM ET
I think what he's saying is that Bnening should have already witnessed this in the past from our series against teams like his Bruins, the Kings, and the Sharks. It sounds like Bnening was surprised when most of the fans really weren't. This team has a good work ethic, but they aren't fast, big or skilled enough.

For example guys like Dorsett/Higgins/Burrows who are so valuable during the season when they out work their opponent become more ordinary and mediocre in the playoffs when every player is going at 110%. That's where other attributes like hockey sense, size, speed and skill become more important than just working hard.

Basically this teams more natural raw ability, physically and in terms of skill.

The defense also needs a lot of work, Tanev-Edler played well. But Hamhuis has had to carry scrubs all year long. also Dumb and Dumber were a liability, it's basically almost like a PK whenever they're on the ice.


Outside of the Sedins, Vrbata, Tanev/Edler and Hamhuis. This team just seems like a bunch of spare parts thrown together(I'll also exclude Horvat who had a very good rookie season and is a key piece moving forward).

- Nucker101


A good regular season team. Same old song and dance.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 5 @ 2:50 PM ET
I dont think its a failure to plan, I think it was seeing and working with what he had to make the playoffs this year. Now he knows the types of players he has and who doesn't fit, you can't turn over a new roster in 10 months
- WhiteLie


I don't think he has a plan yet. Marketing will be anxious to know what it is, you can take that to the bank.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 5 @ 2:51 PM ET
The defence is a joke, they are weak and get pushed around.
- VanHockeyGuy

I fully appreciate and understand your frustration, but what you've gotta understand is it's not as easy as just going out and doing what you want as a GM.

You've gotta compete against 29 other teams for players services, you've gotta deal with the fact we've drafted so poor since before Nucker and Vancity were born we have no "pool" to speak of for trade bait, you've gotta deal with all our NTC's, etc etc etc....

It takes time to fix things, you can't just go and get any player you choose to fix that backend. Tell me how you'd like to fix it?
Lostinarink
Joined: 10.30.2013

May 5 @ 2:53 PM ET
I owe da NW says:
Bieksa sucks
Edler sucks
Hamhuis sucks
Sbisa sucks
Weber sucks

Trade all of them. Get some real defense in.


Ok, lets trade them all
Do you think we can get:
1) Ekblad for Bieksa
2) Karlsson for Edler
3) Doughty for Hamhuis
4) Subban for Sbisa and
5) Weber for weber?
Or would that not quite be enough to solidify the defense?
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

May 5 @ 2:54 PM ET
I owe da NW says:


Ok, lets trade them all
Do you think we can get:
1) Ekblad for Bieksa
2) Karlsson for Edler
3) Doughty for Hamhuis
4) Subban for Sbisa and
5) Weber for weber?
Or would that not quite be enough to solidify the defense?

- Lostinarink


looks like a good start for me
but, we gotta keep sbisa for nuckers sake
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 5 @ 2:57 PM ET
I fully appreciate and understand your frustration, but what you've gotta understand is it's not as easy as just going out and doing what you want as a GM.

You've gotta compete against 29 other teams for players services, you've gotta deal with the fact we've drafted so poor since before Nucker and Vancity were born we have no "pool" to speak of for trade bait, you've gotta deal with all our NTC's, etc etc etc....

It takes time to fix things, you can't just go and get any player you choose to fix that backend. Tell me how you'd like to fix it?

- LeftCoaster


You won't by saying "they kept coming and coming", how would you market the team based on what we all saw and heard?
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 5 @ 3:01 PM ET

I don't think that it's unreasonable for new management to want to take a season to asses the organization. Now that they've had their year, it's time to sort sh!t out.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 5 @ 3:05 PM ET
I fully appreciate and understand your frustration, but what you've gotta understand is it's not as easy as just going out and doing what you want as a GM.

You've gotta compete against 29 other teams for players services, you've gotta deal with the fact we've drafted so poor since before Nucker and Vancity were born we have no "pool" to speak of for trade bait, you've gotta deal with all our NTC's, etc etc etc....

It takes time to fix things, you can't just go and get any player you choose to fix that backend. Tell me how you'd like to fix it?

- LeftCoaster


I agree completely with this, it takes time to transition and this is certainly what team is doing right now. The mandate is clearly to do it while being competitive which I approve of, I don't think players develop well in a losing atmosphere a la the last 6-7 years of the Oilers or Sabres to a lesser extent.

That said I'm still critical of some of the decisions that this mgmt group has made as some seem to be head scratchers.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 5 @ 3:08 PM ET
You won't by saying "they kept coming and coming", how would you market the team based on what we all saw and heard?
- VanHockeyGuy


I could care less about how the team is marketed, build an entertaining team that is competitive and the fans will support it.

Market the poop out a team that disappoints and you get a jaded fanbase.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 5 @ 3:10 PM ET
You won't by saying "they kept coming and coming", how would you market the team based on what we all saw and heard?
- VanHockeyGuy

The summers not over.
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