southernhawk
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Location: of champions, AL Joined: 01.19.2012
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Insert caption here. - IndianHead10
McD.I think we should model the team after the Cubs.
DT..........
McD.I've got a Boner...
DT...i quit.......
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Ogilthorpe2
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Location: 37,000 FT Joined: 07.09.2009
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The positions of Goalie, top 6 power forward or #2 center are the teams gaping holes. Those positions have to be "big name" acquisitions or damn close to it. Unless you're suggesting another Brunette type move to fill those holes. - EKolb13
You forgot the two biggest holes...Coach and GM |
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Dino_Sucks
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 03.15.2010
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good blog JJ, nice to see others have the same frustration level.
In reading some comments, I have to laugh a bit at how others build their teams. For toughness, some always throw out - Mayers, Bollig, Brookbank, Seabrook hits, etc. Or they'll include Carcillo as if he's the toughest SOB out there.
Fact is, toughness is something needed up and down the line up, not just in the limited minutes Mayers, Bollig and Brookbank will play. Come on, as if they're 8 min a night suddenly makes the hawks "tough".
Get some toughness (read: bangers, boardwork, guys who finish checks, etc.) throughout the top 9 and add another tough D to help Seabrook, then we can talk toughness.
And last I saw, sure Mayers and Bollig can drop the gloves, but if those guys were so tough, how come Raffi Torres was pretty much untouched in the game he took out Hossa? Oh sure, Bollig "grabbed" him when it happened but then those guys either couldn't catch Torres or wouldn't the rest of the game.
And while my memory may be foggy, while it may have cost the hawks a penalty or two in a playoff game, seems like the hawks and building could have used some energy, momentum, some pushback, etc. There was none.
So don't give me this BS about our token tough guys providing toughness, give me some players who play a regular shift who are tough. |
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Dino_Sucks
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 03.15.2010
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You forgot the two biggest holes...Coach and GM - Ogilthorpe2
So what kind of a start will it take before someone gets fired? Have to think Q and staff will go before Stan.
I feel like the Bowman/McD crew is just itching to get Barry Smith behind the bench. |
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JRoenick97
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Location: Spokane, WA Joined: 07.20.2012
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You forgot the two biggest holes...Coach and GM - Ogilthorpe2
It stings a little to watch Tallon scoop up all the lost Hawks and put together a great team down in Fla. They are a fun team to watch. |
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JRoenick97
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Location: Spokane, WA Joined: 07.20.2012
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So don't give me this BS about our token tough guys providing toughness, give me some players who play a regular shift who are tough. - Dino_Sucks
I never said we were tough, I said they would help over last year. Carcillo was/has the ability to play top 6 minutes. We need toughness help on D for sure, but I'm not sure how much Brookbank is going to play. We should have kept John Scott. |
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tomcat24
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Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL Joined: 06.04.2012
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And why I say the failure to land lesser names or fill key roles is so disturbing. Listen, Parise or Suter would have helped this team immensely, but the other issues still would have been there—though Suter IMO would have gone a ways toward masking the issue in net. - John Jaeckel
I figured that if they got parise they would have traded a core forward to fill those holes |
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southernhawk
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Location: of champions, AL Joined: 01.19.2012
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I never said we were tough, I said they would help over last year. Carcillo was/has the ability to play top 6 minutes. We need toughness help on D for sure, but I'm not sure how much Brookbank is going to play. We should have kept John Scott. - JRoenick97
WHAT Jon Scott ...the guy who played 4 mins a game...Brookbank average 16min a game last year...(frank)ing Jon Scott |
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moylander
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 06.14.2011
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good blog JJ, nice to see others have the same frustration level.
In reading some comments, I have to laugh a bit at how others build their teams. For toughness, some always throw out - Mayers, Bollig, Brookbank, Seabrook hits, etc. Or they'll include Carcillo as if he's the toughest SOB out there.
Fact is, toughness is something needed up and down the line up, not just in the limited minutes Mayers, Bollig and Brookbank will play. Come on, as if they're 8 min a night suddenly makes the hawks "tough".
Get some toughness (read: bangers, boardwork, guys who finish checks, etc.) throughout the top 9 and add another tough D to help Seabrook, then we can talk toughness.
And last I saw, sure Mayers and Bollig can drop the gloves, but if those guys were so tough, how come Raffi Torres was pretty much untouched in the game he took out Hossa? Oh sure, Bollig "grabbed" him when it happened but then those guys either couldn't catch Torres or wouldn't the rest of the game.
And while my memory may be foggy, while it may have cost the hawks a penalty or two in a playoff game, seems like the hawks and building could have used some energy, momentum, some pushback, etc. There was none.
So don't give me this BS about our token tough guys providing toughness, give me some players who play a regular shift who are tough. - Dino_Sucks
Yep. It starts from Toews right on down. Can't be just one or two players. Its a 'team' mentality - and its most certainly not about dropping the gloves. Hell, none of the flyers can actually fight worth a lick... but they certainly will take the punches get back up and check opponents even harder the next time. |
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JRoenick97
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Location: Spokane, WA Joined: 07.20.2012
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WHAT Jon Scott ...the guy who played 4 mins a game...Brookbank average 16min a game last year...(frank)ing Jon Scott - southernhawk
Scott was under utilized. They brought him in to replace Byfuglien, and he is no Byfuglien. Once he didn't produce they cut him out. I still like him because of his media battle with Bieksa. |
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moylander
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 06.14.2011
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Scott was under utilized. They brought him in to replace Byfuglien, and he is no Byfuglien. Once he didn't produce they cut him out. I still like him because of his media battle with Bieksa. - JRoenick97
I think I would rather have this John Scott http://msn.foxsports.com/...e-Jonathan-Scott-56044613
The John Scott to which you refer was/is a waste of a roster spot. HE CANNOT SKATE! The tv guys would always say he was getting caught flatfooted but they were wrong, that was what he looked like on his toes. The man simply was not an asset to this team. If John Scott is your answer, I don't want to know what the questions was. |
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Scott was under utilized. They brought him in to replace Byfuglien, and he is no Byfuglien. Once he didn't produce they cut him out. I still like him because of his media battle with Bieksa. - JRoenick97
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Wow. For intents and purposes the dude shouldn't have seen the ice. Ever. On a team that had Stanley Cup aspirations allegedly. |
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I think I would rather have this John Scott http://msn.foxsports.com/...e-Jonathan-Scott-56044613
The John Scott to which you refer was/is a waste of a roster spot. HE CANNOT SKATE! The tv guys would always say he was getting caught flatfooted but they were wrong, that was what he looked like on his toes. The man simply was not an asset to this team. If John Scott is your answer, I don't want to know what the questions was. - bejewell
Funniest guy on the team / best interview. The commercials with him were brilliant. |
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EKB13
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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Scott was under utilized. They brought him in to replace Byfuglien, and he is no Byfuglien. Once he didn't produce they cut him out. I still like him because of his media battle with Bieksa. - JRoenick97
You can stop right there. They should issue bans for statements like this. |
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JRoenick97
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Location: Spokane, WA Joined: 07.20.2012
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Wow. For intents and purposes the dude shouldn't have seen the ice. Ever. On a team that had Stanley Cup aspirations allegedly. - fattybeef
Scott filled a role. He was an intimidator. He could fight anyone and crush people. When I say under utilized, I mean as that role. There were a ton of times that the hawks were getting handled and overpowered and one of Scott's checks or fights would have helped immensely. I'm not saying he is a good skater/player. I'm saying his role was very diminished. Sometimes, 6'7" would have helped. |
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EKB13
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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You forgot the two biggest holes...Coach and GM - Ogilthorpe2
Those are the two biggest "holes" on the team. "Holes" as in a$$holes.
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EKB13
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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Scott filled a role. He was an intimidator. He could fight anyone and crush people. When I say under utilized, I mean as that role. There were a ton of times that the hawks were getting handled and overpowered and one of Scott's checks or fights would have helped immensely. I'm not saying he is a good skater/player. I'm saying his role was very diminished. Sometimes, 6'7" would have helped. - JRoenick97
Nope. I hope you brought your flame retardant suit. You're going to need it!
Answer me this...how many fighting majors did Scott have with the Hawks last season?
Scott was unwilling to take an instigator penalty in order to start a fight. If you won't fight a guy until he punches you, how are you intimidating anyone?
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southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: of champions, AL Joined: 01.19.2012
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Scott filled a role. He was an intimidator. He could fight anyone and crush people. When I say under utilized, I mean as that role. There were a ton of times that the hawks were getting handled and overpowered and one of Scott's checks or fights would have helped immensely. I'm not saying he is a good skater/player. I'm saying his role was very diminished. Sometimes, 6'7" would have helped. - JRoenick97
Dude they have that taken care of...Carcillo...Brookbank...Mayers...Bollig ...shaw all will throw down and hit ALOT...And Monty ......John Scott really |
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EKB13
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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Dude they have that taken care of...Carcillo...Brookbank...Mayers...Bollig ...shaw all will throw down and hit ALOT...And Monty ......John Scott really - southernhawk
John Scott couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.
Dumb (frank)ing noobie. |
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Hawkster
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Location: Quebec , QC Joined: 06.13.2008
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Insert caption here. - IndianHead10
JM : I think you should play more rookies
DT : I think you should stick to marketing
JM : Do I look good in this in jacket? I can see myself on a billboard.
DT : I think I miss the deadline on those contracts
JM : Idiot.... you're ___
DT : Did you call me a liar?
Jm : No, I said you were fired
Dt : Oh, that's much worse |
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EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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I really think that's a coaching decision. I think Q doesn't want his players taking dumb penalties, to the point where he will reduce ice time to players who do. That's why Bickell, Stalberg, Scott, and many others were not able to perform their role. I think if you fired the coaching staff and brought in better coaches this team would be a lot better. - coldsteelonice
I know Bollig took a few instigator penalties last season when getting into fights.
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ilinkhawk
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 10.11.2007
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Scott filled a role. He was an intimidator. He could fight anyone and crush people. When I say under utilized, I mean as that role. There were a ton of times that the hawks were getting handled and overpowered and one of Scott's checks or fights would have helped immensely. I'm not saying he is a good skater/player. I'm saying his role was very diminished. Sometimes, 6'7" would have helped. - JRoenick97
Some of the nastiest cheap shots taken by other teams were with Scott in the lineup. Players may not want to fight him but that didnt stop them from taking shots. At all... Best way to pay that stuff back is to score goals and target the other teams skill guys. Which is what we used to have on this team. |
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EKB13
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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Career Totals:
John Scott: 146 gp, 22 fights
Brandon Bollig: 18 gp, 8 fights |
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