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poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 19 @ 1:52 AM ET
Well, Nashville may well match the offer sheet, just as David Poile promised to do. I wonder if the years will prevent that. Or, perhaps the Flyers front loaded the damned thing so much that the Preds would be hard pressed to match.

It's a move of pure balls, considering that Paul Holmgren and David Poile have had a very good relationship for the past several years. According to Dreger, the Flyers have allowed several deadlines to pass in an effort to trade for Weber, and Poile had to know this was coming.

Still, it's definitely a kind of "(frank) your buddy" move.

If Nashville does match, Weber can not be traded for one calendar year. I'm also sure that the deal includes a full NMC, as well as massive bonuses. So much for the Flyers standing pat

- Jsaquella

Dont think any of these things can be in a offer sheet. I think a offer sheet is just pure salary over said years.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:52 AM ET
Philly is stuck with Prongers Cap Hit, because he signed it, after he was 35 yrs old.
- PrinceLH

they will just LTIR his cap hit.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:52 AM ET
"Nashville was working on a trade and its [sic] believed several deadlines passed before Flyers grew tired of waiting," Dreger tweeted. "Weber signed offer sheet."


http://www.philly.com/phi...992872.html#ixzz212qdb9pO
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:53 AM ET
losing Pronger.
- SuperHenderson13



Thoughts and prayers to Chris Pronger, the father and the husband.
Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO
Joined: 12.17.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:53 AM ET
Damn auto correct on the iPhone
- thenighttrain17


I hate Auto Correct so much. I tried to say to a friend I wanted to see Galiardi player and it writes "I want to see Rapists!" Kind of awkward.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:54 AM ET
losing Pronger.
- SuperHenderson13


And Carle. And Jagr.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:54 AM ET
Amazing how many people are still around, in mid July, at 2AM in the morning on a hockey blog. At least there is something tangable to debate for a change. This will last a week, at least!
todstiles
Joined: 06.25.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:55 AM ET
For all of you saying that Nashville will match the offer.........

I don't see how they possibly can, especially if all the money is up front. This isn't a salary cap issue. It's a budget issue. Nashville would basically have to play with Weber, Renne and a bunch of third and fourth line players for several years. Barry Trotz is good but that would really be pushing it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:55 AM ET
Dont think any of these things can be in a offer sheet. I think a offer sheet is just pure salary over said years.
- poisondhearts37


Nope. An offer sheet is simply a contract that the player's old team can match. It;s the same as signing a contract with a UFA. All those things are included, and have to be matched by the other team for them to keep the player.
zach parise9
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:55 AM ET
That is a crazy offer. Nasheville really has to match it, they have no option. I also hope they match it since:
1. I hate the Flyers and
2. They will be stacked
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:55 AM ET
I hate Auto Correct so much. I tried to say to a friend I wanted to see Galiardi player and it writes "I want to see Rapists!" Kind of awkward.
- martok2309

Yeah, I had that on my old Blackberry Pearl. It would give me stupid words that matched similar keystrokes.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:56 AM ET
Amazing how many people are still around, in mid July, at 2AM in the morning on a hockey blog. At least there is something tangable to debate for a change. This will last a week, at least!
- PrinceLH

actually it can only last a week, that's all the time the preds have to match.

PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:56 AM ET
That is a crazy offer. Nasheville really has to match it, they have no option. I also hope they match it since:
1. I hate the Flyers and
2. They will be stacked

- zach parise9

Bryz....the great equalizer!
dilbert719
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.30.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:57 AM ET
I can see a sign and trade, from Nashville. Probably from the Penguins or Rangers. They aren't about to let Philly get away with this. The Preds need tangible assets, in return for Weber. How can they sell this team to the local fans, with both Suter and Weber now gone. Maybe we see a very good forward and defenceman, going the other way, with some picks and prospects. This is not a good day to be a Predators fan!
- PrinceLH


They can't sign and trade Weber to anyone but Philadelphia now, and if they match, they cannot trade him to anyone for a year.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:57 AM ET
Bryz....the great equalizer!
- PrinceLH

touche.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:57 AM ET
And Carle. And Jagr.
- Jsaquella


Oh yeah! I forgot that they hadn't really made a move up until now!
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:57 AM ET
For all of you saying that Nashville will match the offer.........

I don't see how they possibly can, especially if all the money is up front. This isn't a salary cap issue. It's a budget issue. Nashville would basically have to play with Weber, Renne and a bunch of third and fourth line players for several years. Barry Trotz is good but that would really be pushing it.

- todstiles

They almost did that anyway last year
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:57 AM ET
They can't sign and trade Weber to anyone but Philadelphia now, and if they match, they cannot trade him to anyone for a year.
- dilbert719

the preds can sign and wait a year, then they can trade him to whoever they see fit.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:57 AM ET
and i was gonna ask would you do an ovy for weber trade earlier
boltsfan48
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Lithia, FL
Joined: 07.08.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:57 AM ET
oh boy funny but not funny if he pulled a pronger too this season.
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:58 AM ET
Nashville has to match. Considering what Suter got this is a steal.
dilbert719
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.30.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:58 AM ET
the preds can sign and wait a year, then they can trade him to whoever they see fit.
- tomburton99


Indeed they can, as I pointed out. However, they cannot "sign and trade" him, as the poster I was replying to suggested, to any team but Philadelphia.
JohnnyReb
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Watertown, NY
Joined: 07.03.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:58 AM ET
touche.
- tomburton99

No, Bryz is Douche!!
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 19 @ 1:59 AM ET
they will just LTIR his cap hit.
- tomburton99

You can't keep a player on the LTIR if they are not actually injured. Also, I believe there are penalties at some point for having too much money on the LTIR. If Pronger is really done and retires, the cap hit stays. What then?
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:59 AM ET
Where does Philly get all this cap space Figures it'd be Homer who'd light up a stagnant FA period with an offer like this! Good on him!
- MaximumBone



pronger ....???
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