If Poile is unhappy with this deal of 4 1sts from the Flyers, why doesn't he just match and say the best offer above 4 1sts I get, I will trade Weber to.

all 28 other teams had the chance to do the same thing... they should have if they wanted him
- DarcyTucker16

Nope they where trying to work out a fair deal to aquire him ,but Philly wanted him and didnt want to pay fair price for him

They are still 1st rounders. And like it was aid above, Nashville will be terrible and they will have 3 picks in the first 40 selections
- TendyLyfe02

not in 2013 though, Habs own their 2nd round pick

Pronger's cap hit stays on the books if he retires. But knowing holmgren, he will ask Pronger not to retire and just stay in LTIR like he with Ian Laperiere
- Ducksfan93

He won't have to ask him if prongers problems as bad as reported he needs the medical care and why would he give up over 20mill

If Poile is unhappy with this deal of 4 1sts from the Flyers, why doesn't he just match and say the best offer above 4 1sts I get, I will trade Weber to.
- mfreedman

He'd have to wait a year before trading him.

If Poile is unhappy with this deal of 4 1sts from the Flyers, why doesn't he just match and say the best offer above 4 1sts I get, I will trade Weber to.
- mfreedman

if he matches the offer, he can't trade Weber for a year

This has nothing to do with Bobby Ryan...

Nope ,it was a bush play on a weakened team in a small market.Philly made sure that nashville will only be talking to them about weber and no one else .That 110 million dollar contract is the knife in nashville,s back to make sure he will be a flyer on flyers terms not nashville,s
- top shelf 15

well good on them... maybe nashville should just bucked up and signed him... the contract per year is probably not whats screwing them its the single year at supposed 26 mill... so why didnt they just sign him to an equivalent contract thats better spread out to suit theyre finances... Its a bad play on nashvilles part to let him go this far into free agency when other teams are getting desperate... its a smart move by philly

contracts



Y U SO LONG

That's not the point I am making. The Flyers are doing something to sign a good player. If the Predators can't afford it, then they can't afford it. They CLAIM they can, so whining if they choose not to is sort of silly. We all watched the Rangers sign Richards away from the small market Stars last year. How'd that work out for them? The Kings have NO big money UFA or RFA's on their team. How'd that work out for them.

There are different ways of winning. Avoiding big money FA's has been one of them for the last few years. Since the lockout, point out ONE team that won the Cup on the backs of a big $$ signing. ONE.

If it works for the Flyers this time, then it will be the first in eight seasons. Tell me how doing something that has historically NOT won a Cup is cheating or taking advantage of the small market clubs.
- jonandabby

LA trading for a nine year contract and a 11yr contract is just like signing one except you got to give up picks and players

not in 2013 though, Habs own their 2nd round pick
- stinger67

Right. And Nashville didn't have a 1st this year because of Gaustad ( ).
That's why I think it's smart for them to let him walk. Especially if he has zero interest of playing there.

Nope they where trying to work out a fair deal to aquire him ,but Philly wanted him and didnt want to pay fair price for him
- top shelf 15

ok so where is there doing wrong? philly wants a player and does what they can to get him... theres still a window to make a trade in that offer sheet time... why didnt the other teams sign an offer sheet so it only goes to them and then make the trade?... face it... its a smart move by philly and if other teams are piised about it they can only blame themselves for not manning up and getting it doen

Not only is crossingbroad reporting Shea Weber was IN Philly last week there's also this quote from the site "It’s a balls-out move from Holmgren. According to TSN’s Darren Dreger, who broke the news, the Flyers set several deadlines for a trade with the Predators, but, when they all passed, Holmgren just decided to make an offer. Here, match this!"

Change anyone's opinion. Looks like Nashville dropped the ball to this point.

I hope he is the next Bryzgalov

well good on them... maybe nashville should just bucked up and signed him... the contract per year is probably not whats screwing them its the single year at supposed 26 mill... so why didnt they just sign him to an equivalent contract thats better spread out to suit theyre finances... Its a bad play on nashvilles part to let him go this far into free agency when other teams are getting desperate... its a smart move by philly
- DarcyTucker16

Weber never had any intention of signing in nashville ,hense him signing the offer sheet as well as the rumoured teams that where putting together trade packages to land him.Philly was falling behind here and decided to handcuff nashville

This contract along with Suter's and Parise's won't help the CBA talks.

ya and where in taht does it say the weber deal is bad? there is no way in hell the flyers didnt figure out the numbers to make it work (in new rules and old) before doing it just to make headlines
- DarcyTucker16

You understand that they left this section vague, because they’re never going to be able to catch every loophole, right? I think if you look at other sections, they even get into words like “agreements that go against the spirit of the CBA”. They don’t spell every little detail out, because GMs will just find more loopholes. It’s quite blatantly obvious that these contracts are not meant to be fulfilled to their full terms, and if that doesn’t constitute “enter into any agreements, promises, undertakings, representations, commitments, inducements, assurances of intent, or understandings of any kind, whether express, implied, oral or written, including without limitation, any SPC, Qualifying Offer, Offer Sheet or other transaction, or (ii) take or fail to take any action whatsoever, if either (i) or (ii) is intended to or has the effect of defeating or Circumventing the provisions of this Agreement or the intention of the parties as reflected by the provisions of this Agreement, including without limitation, provisions with respect to the financial and other reporting obligations of the Clubs and the League, Team Payroll Range, Player Compensation Cost Redistribution System, the Entry Level System and/or Free Agency.”, then I’m not quite sure does.

ya and where in taht does it say the weber deal is bad? there is no way in hell the flyers didnt figure out the numbers to make it work (in new rules and old) before doing it just to make headlines
- DarcyTucker16

You understand that they left this section vague, because they’re never going to be able to catch every loophole, right? I think if you look at other sections, they even get into words like “agreements that go against the spirit of the CBA”. They don’t spell every little detail out, because GMs will just find more loopholes. It’s quite blatantly obvious that these contracts are not meant to be fulfilled to their full terms, and if that doesn’t constitute “enter into any agreements, promises, undertakings, representations, commitments, inducements, assurances of intent, or understandings of any kind, whether express, implied, oral or written, including without limitation, any SPC, Qualifying Offer, Offer Sheet or other transaction, or (ii) take or fail to take any action whatsoever, if either (i) or (ii) is intended to or has the effect of defeating or Circumventing the provisions of this Agreement or the intention of the parties as reflected by the provisions of this Agreement, including without limitation, provisions with respect to the financial and other reporting obligations of the Clubs and the League, Team Payroll Range, Player Compensation Cost Redistribution System, the Entry Level System and/or Free Agency.”, then I’m not quite sure does.

ok so where is there doing wrong? philly wants a player and does what they can to get him... theres still a window to make a trade in that offer sheet time... why didnt the other teams sign an offer sheet so it only goes to them and then make the trade?... face it... its a smart move by philly and if other teams are piised about it they can only blame themselves for not manning up and getting it doen
- DarcyTucker16

Its not good for the overall health of the league if we allow teams to go down this path.We will be MLB version 2

Weber never had any intention of signing in nashville ,hense him signing the offer sheet as well as the rumoured teams that where putting together trade packages to land him.Philly was falling behind here and decided to handcuff nashville
- top shelf 15

exactly... well (frank)in played... why is everyone so pissed... the other teams shoulda pulled the trigger instead of doing the less obvious version of exactly what philly did... the other teams are trying to low ball nash with their offers or one would have been accepted already... it was a great move by philly to get a guy they wanted.... done and done

ok so where is there doing wrong? philly wants a player and does what they can to get him... theres still a window to make a trade in that offer sheet time... why didnt the other teams sign an offer sheet so it only goes to them and then make the trade?... face it... its a smart move by philly and if other teams are piised about it they can only blame themselves for not manning up and getting it doen
- DarcyTucker16

Its not good for the overall health of the league if we allow teams to go down this path.We will be MLB version 2

ok so where is there doing wrong? philly wants a player and does what they can to get him... theres still a window to make a trade in that offer sheet time... why didnt the other teams sign an offer sheet so it only goes to them and then make the trade?... face it... its a smart move by philly and if other teams are piised about it they can only blame themselves for not manning up and getting it doen
- DarcyTucker16

exactly... well (frank)in played... why is everyone so pissed... the other teams shoulda pulled the trigger instead of doing the less obvious version of exactly what philly did... the other teams are trying to low ball nash with their offers or one would have been accepted already... it was a great move by philly to get a guy they wanted.... done and done
- DarcyTucker16

i don't think anyone's pissed that the flyers offersheeted weber... it's the contract that people have an issue with. this is just another stupid contract added onto the already huge list of parise, suter, kovy, luongo, hossa, etc... hell even brad richards.

i don't think anyone's pissed that the flyers offersheeted weber... it's the contract that people have an issue with. this is just another stupid contract added onto the already huge list of parise, suter, kovy, luongo, hossa, etc... hell even brad richards.
- rangerdanger94

We signed the Norris trophy winning defender to a decent contract ,dont see whats so hard about others following suit

Its not good for the overall health of the league if we allow teams to go down this path.We will be MLB version 2
- top shelf 15

i think its better... i hate the fact taht getting last is now a good thing... i understand rebuilding but what edmontons management is doing is stupid... theyve literally done nothing to improve that team... early someone argued that sports is about competition and not wallets... please enlighten me on how edmonton has competed these last 4 years?