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Apples
Montreal Canadiens
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Jul 2 @ 8:51 PM ET
Flyers wanted him so they added the extra term. Future buyout candidate but for three years it should be a nice fit
- Cape Breton Bruins

he says "outside factors" caused him to sign with flyers instead of habs.


ie: taxes and term. habs wouldn't go over 3 years. but probs matched the annual salary.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 2 @ 9:00 PM ET
he says "outside factors" caused him to sign with flyers instead of habs.


ie: taxes and term. habs wouldn't go over 3 years. but probs matched the annual salary.

- Apples

did you guys even want him?

i never took the flyers rumor seriously so i literally gave vinny zero thought right up until it happened. i'll never know what side i would have been on. like would i have wanted him or not.
Apples
Montreal Canadiens
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Jul 2 @ 9:11 PM ET
did you guys even want him?

i never took the flyers rumor seriously so i literally gave vinny zero thought right up until it happened. i'll never know what side i would have been on. like would i have wanted him or not.

- kicksave856

yeah we wanted him. but not for 5 years.
Cape Breton Bruins
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Jul 2 @ 9:16 PM ET
did you guys even want him?

i never took the flyers rumor seriously so i literally gave vinny zero thought right up until it happened. i'll never know what side i would have been on. like would i have wanted him or not.

- kicksave856


It was an obvious destination IMO. I'd be very surprised if Montreal was even Vinny's second choice based on the type of roll he would have to assume, even if it wasn't the intention going in, the media there would have never let the man assume his desired spot as a secondary scorer on the team.

Then take into account the extremist side of the Habs fanbase where half(QP) would think he is god because he is from Quebec and can do no wrong and the other half who would be all over him the minute he doesn't score a goal for 4 or 5 games.

Can't see why at this stage of his career he would put himself through that, and apparently neither did he.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 2 @ 9:20 PM ET
yeah we wanted him. but not for 5 years.
- Apples

yeah. i feel the same way it's been described in a few threads already. like it'll be worth it for a few years and then it'll just be like whatever for the last couple years.

i guess i just hope those few years are really worth it. i didn't see him play much this year or at least i didn't really concentrate on him. so i don't really even know how he's looked recently.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 2 @ 9:21 PM ET
It was an obvious destination IMO. I'd be very surprised if Montreal was even Vinny's second choice based on the type of roll he would have to assume, even if it wasn't the intention going in, the media there would have never let the man assume his desired spot as a secondary scorer on the team.

Then take into account the extremist side of the Habs fanbase where half(QP) would think he is god because he is from Quebec and can do no wrong and the other half who would be all over him the minute he doesn't score a goal for 4 or 5 games.

Can't see why at this stage of his career he would put himself through that, and apparently neither did he.

- Cape Breton Bruins

that does kind of sound like bullpoop.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Jul 2 @ 9:22 PM ET
yeah. i feel the same way it's been described in a few threads already. like it'll be worth it for a few years and then it'll just be like whatever for the last couple years.

i guess i just hope those few years are really worth it. i didn't see him play much this year or at least i didn't really concentrate on him. so i don't really even know how he's looked recently.

- kicksave856

Steve Mason fill force or do they dump Coburn and Sign Timmy as a tandem?
Cape Breton Bruins
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Jul 2 @ 9:25 PM ET
that does kind of sound like bullpoop.
- kicksave856

I mean 5 years ago, if this opportunity was here it would have worked. Now on one hand you have the option of playing with Giroux, being a secondary guy not under pressure of being the face of the team and getting the term you desired to finish your career against being put up to expectations that simply can't be attained at this point by the crazy local media/ more extreme fans.
Apples
Montreal Canadiens
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Jul 2 @ 9:26 PM ET
It was an obvious destination IMO. I'd be very surprised if Montreal was even Vinny's second choice based on the type of roll he would have to assume, even if it wasn't the intention going in, the media there would have never let the man assume his desired spot as a secondary scorer on the team.

Then take into account the extremist side of the Habs fanbase where half(QP) would think he is god because he is from Quebec and can do no wrong and the other half who would be all over him the minute he doesn't score a goal for 4 or 5 games.

Can't see why at this stage of his career he would put himself through that, and apparently neither did he.

- Cape Breton Bruins


I get it. I don't care where he's from. It doesn't matter to me that he's French. He's just a really good hockey player that would have helped our team.

Now the Habs are pursuing Briere. Still a good player, and can play wing which is what we truly need.

Plekanec
Galchenyuk
Eller
Desharnais
Leblanc
White
Dumont

and maybe Halpern all fighting for the top 4 center ice positions.


Apples
Montreal Canadiens
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Jul 2 @ 9:27 PM ET
yeah. i feel the same way it's been described in a few threads already. like it'll be worth it for a few years and then it'll just be like whatever for the last couple years.

i guess i just hope those few years are really worth it. i didn't see him play much this year or at least i didn't really concentrate on him. so i don't really even know how he's looked recently.

- kicksave856


he's a good player. your team has improved because of him, for sure.

but he's known for being a bit lazy. don't expect a backchecker.
you'll like him though. the good outweighs the bad.

sucks the habs didn't get him but i'm glad bergevin stuck to his guns. offering 3 years was the smartest decision and he stuck to it. he has a long term plan.
Apples
Montreal Canadiens
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Jul 2 @ 9:28 PM ET
Steve Mason fill force or do they dump Coburn and Sign Timmy as a tandem?
- Cape Breton Bruins

methinks they sign Thomas too.

coburn to oilers fo MPS and 2nd.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 2 @ 9:28 PM ET
Steve Mason fill force or do they dump Coburn and Sign Timmy as a tandem?
- Cape Breton Bruins

they have to get somebody but i really hope it's not tim thomas. i can't explain how badly, and in how many different ways, everything about that would suck in ohiladelphia (also in philadelphia).

i honestly was thinking they were adding a defenseman and a goalie this summer and that was all.
Apples
Montreal Canadiens
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Jul 2 @ 9:28 PM ET
I mean 5 years ago, if this opportunity was here it would have worked. Now on one hand you have the option of playing with Giroux, being a secondary guy not under pressure of being the face of the team and getting the term you desired to finish your career against being put up to expectations that simply can't be attained at this point by the crazy local media/ more extreme fans.
- Cape Breton Bruins

you basically described his situation in tampa bay minus the last part.
Apples
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Jul 2 @ 9:29 PM ET
they have to get somebody but i really hope it's not tim thomas. i can't explain how badly, and in how many different ways, everything about that would suck in ohiladelphia (also in philadelphia).

i honestly was thinking they were adding a defenseman and a goalie this summer and that was all.

- kicksave856

it's never that simple with the flyers. you know that.

they will add a goalie. probs trade couts and some prospects for miller.
Cape Breton Bruins
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Jul 2 @ 9:30 PM ET
I get it. I don't care where he's from. It doesn't matter to me that he's French. He's just a really good hockey player that would have helped our team.

Now the Habs are pursuing Briere. Still a good player, and can play wing which is what we truly need.

Plekanec
Galchenyuk
Eller
Desharnais
Leblanc
White
Dumont

and maybe Halpern all fighting for the top 4 center ice positions.

- Apples

I know you guys don't but there is that fanatic minority that always gets heard because the media loves the controversy. I can already see the headlines trying to compare a 33 year old Vinny, who has had his share of injuries against Habs legends of the past and asking why he isn't measuring up.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 2 @ 9:31 PM ET


Now the Habs are pursuing Briere. Still a good player, and can play wing which is what we truly need.


- Apples

does asp know about this?
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 2 @ 9:32 PM ET
it's never that simple with the flyers. you know that.

they will add a goalie. probs trade couts and some prospects for miller.

- Apples

i can't see them trading couturier. i don't know what their plan is but i can't see that being it.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Jul 2 @ 9:32 PM ET
you basically described his situation in tampa bay minus the last part.
- Apples


wore the C but lately yes. Also being anonymous in sunny Florida making a truck full of money every year probably didn't suck.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Jul 2 @ 9:34 PM ET
it's never that simple with the flyers. you know that.

they will add a goalie. probs trade couts and some prospects for miller.

- Apples

Could you imagine? Nothing would surprise me, they fancy sizable roster turnovers each season.
Apples
Montreal Canadiens
Location: you kiss your own big butt with that mouth?
Joined: 07.05.2008

Jul 2 @ 9:35 PM ET
I know you guys don't but there is that fanatic minority that always gets heard because the media loves the controversy. I can already see the headlines trying to compare a 33 year old Vinny, who has had his share of injuries against Habs legends of the past and asking why he isn't measuring up.
- Cape Breton Bruins

no doubt. that's a problem with many fan bases though. just so happens that mtl has many fans, and many loud mouths. also it's not a language thing because you get the dumb ass english callers on tsn690 all the time.
Apples
Montreal Canadiens
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Jul 2 @ 9:36 PM ET
wore the C but lately yes. Also being anonymous in sunny Florida making a truck full of money every year probably didn't suck.
- Cape Breton Bruins

nope. sucks he got bought out. but hey, now at least he's out of our division. he's the atlantics problem now.
DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers
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Jul 2 @ 9:36 PM ET
that does kind of sound like bullpoop.
- kicksave856


I hate to say Caper is right but Caper is right
Apples
Montreal Canadiens
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Jul 2 @ 9:36 PM ET
i can't see them trading couturier. i don't know what their plan is but i can't see that being it.
- kicksave856

you know he's getting traded eventually. he comes up in rumours way too often.
Apples
Montreal Canadiens
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Jul 2 @ 9:37 PM ET
Could you imagine? Nothing would surprise me, they fancy sizable roster turnovers each season.
- Cape Breton Bruins

it's crazy. what do you think boston will do for a winger?
bring ryder back? iginla? lol
Apples
Montreal Canadiens
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Jul 2 @ 9:37 PM ET
does asp know about this?
- kicksave856

maybe
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