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ShafterBenRaide
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Proud fan of a bad team.
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 17 @ 11:57 AM ET

- BingoLady



Tabar...
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 11:57 AM ET
THE FANS, STORMEY.

THE FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- Pecafan Fan

Keep going as is. The only concession the Owners should ask for is lowering the cap floor.

Everyone is making money. The league is making boatloads of revenue which is in turn making the players boatloads of money.
I don't understand what's broken.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 17 @ 11:57 AM ET
http://www.legacy.com/obi...l-patterson&pid=158526785

To Disneyland - you can now throw away that "Banned for Life" file you have on me, I'm not a problem anymore - and SeaWorld San Diego, too, if you read this.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 17 @ 11:57 AM ET
yeah but who got (frank)ed last time?
- stormeyAlterEgo



once again, in this story I believe it is me.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 17 @ 11:58 AM ET
Keep going as is. The only concession the Owners should ask for is lowering the cap floor.

Everyone is making money. The league is making boatloads of revenue which is in turn making the players boatloads of money.
I don't understand what's broken.

- stormeyAlterEgo


But the problem is, 18 teams lose money every year.

Something obviously doesn't work.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 17 @ 11:59 AM ET
If healthy, his contract isn't bad.

If.

- Pecafan Fan


and while he's on IR he's not on the cap anyway.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jul 17 @ 11:59 AM ET
But the problem is, 18 teams lose money every year.

Something obviously doesn't work.

- Pecafan Fan

B'ah!
ShafterBenRaide
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Proud fan of a bad team.
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 17 @ 12:00 PM ET
If healthy, his contract isn't bad.

If.

- Pecafan Fan



Even healthy, we still don't know if he can come back to the player he used to be. Lets pray he was only rusty last year in the few games he played and it was not signs of him slowing down.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 17 @ 12:00 PM ET
Keep going as is. The only concession the Owners should ask for is lowering the cap floor.

Everyone is making money. The league is making boatloads of revenue which is in turn making the players boatloads of money.
I don't understand what's broken.

- stormeyAlterEgo


i don't think that's true.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jul 17 @ 12:01 PM ET
Not sure they are going to change the way they negotiate with Subban based on an absurd "proposal" by the owners.
- Pecafan Fan


Pk may be waiting to sign a contract after the new CBA is signed. This way he will be able to sign a contract for the money that he will actually get instead of signing a contract with an inevitable pay cut.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:01 PM ET
But the problem is, 18 teams lose money every year.

Something obviously doesn't work.

- Pecafan Fan

Thus lowering the floor.

also if 18 teams were "actually" losing money I'd think there would be a lot more relocating and/or folding of franchises.
ShafterBenRaide
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Proud fan of a bad team.
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 17 @ 12:01 PM ET
i don't think that's true.
- DoubleDown



Yeah, I'm still waiting for my share of the $.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jul 17 @ 12:02 PM ET
i don't think that's true.
- DoubleDown

Rubbish. For a league that has been saying this forever they seem to keep chugging along.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jul 17 @ 12:02 PM ET
Thus lowering the floor.

also if 18 teams were "actually" losing money I'd think there would be a lot more relocating and/or folding of franchises.

- stormeyAlterEgo

uh oh.

I don't like my odds being on the same side.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:02 PM ET
Rubbish. For a league that has been saying this forever they seem to keep chugging along.
- habby

exactly.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 17 @ 12:02 PM ET
Thus lowering the floor.

also if 18 teams were "actually" losing money I'd think there would be a lot more relocating and/or folding of franchises.

- stormeyAlterEgo


Stormey, the Coyotes are still in Phoenix.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:03 PM ET
uh oh.

I don't like my odds being on the same side.

- habby

habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jul 17 @ 12:04 PM ET
Stormey, the Coyotes are still in Phoenix.
- Pecafan Fan

They'll get all the money back+ once they move.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jul 17 @ 12:05 PM ET
But the problem is, 18 teams lose money every year.

Something obviously doesn't work.

- Pecafan Fan


They need to base the cap and floor on the average revenue of the teams, as the handful of teams that are making the poop load of money are artifically inflating the cap and causing the other teams to lose money.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:05 PM ET
Stormey, the Coyotes are still in Phoenix.
- Pecafan Fan

and the other 17?
ShafterBenRaide
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Proud fan of a bad team.
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 17 @ 12:05 PM ET
Rubbish. For a league that has been saying this forever they seem to keep chugging along.
- habby



Move the Islanders to Brooklyn.
Move the Cayotes to Vegas
Move the devils to Markham

No more teams losing money. I think.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jul 17 @ 12:05 PM ET
dt99999
- DoubleDown

habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jul 17 @ 12:06 PM ET
and the other 17?
- stormeyAlterEgo

Food stamps.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 17 @ 12:06 PM ET
and the other 17?
- stormeyAlterEgo


Wanna start with the NJ Devils?
http://www.nypost.com/p/n...k0Xc8rl9MdI#ixzz1y9YWXEqH
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:07 PM ET
Thus lowering the floor.

also if 18 teams were "actually" losing money I'd think there would be a lot more relocating and/or folding of franchises.

- stormeyAlterEgo

I always thought losing money means you are not making as much as you hoped. No business stand around to "lose money". That's like you going to work and paying your boss to work there. Makes no sense.
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