maverickJ
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Location: Earth, ON Joined: 04.01.2012
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they would be playing two men down and a short bench every game and would lose horribly. - Barx
Of course they would, my argument was that team toughness has not increased over the years, if anything teams are softer. |
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celata29
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Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA Joined: 06.14.2012
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not a chance in hell.
but if you toss Crosby into the NHL when gretzky was lighting it up, id bet $ Crosby's numbers were close to the same, posssibly better. - big_dion
oooo that's an interesting one...idk if I agree with you there. Crosby relies a bit too much on those hooks that do get called because of the new nhl. along with slashes and other penalties etc. Idk it would be interesting |
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Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri Joined: 04.01.2011
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Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON Joined: 10.25.2011
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Shutt is in the Hall of Fame, what would he know..
Anyway, I was speaking as an average, not the best players of all time.. - bixll
Seriously though, he was just being humble, just look at the Montreal roster and tell me there isn't someone he can replace. |
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Domaju
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Timmins, ON Joined: 06.26.2008
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If the argument was to have Gretzky in his prime, with the training and equipment he had available, over Crosby now, I'd say Crosby. But if they were around in the same era (obviously hypothetical) with the same opportunities, I'd take Gretzky...and I think most agree? and I think this is where we accidently disagreed with each other lol
Edit: Is this a fair assessment? - celata29
This I agree with. Give Gretz the same opportunities that Crosby had with the same available training and equipment and I'd still take Gretzky's vision over Crosby. The biggest difference is that Crosby can play the physical game that Gertzky didn't have. But I think the genius hockey mind that Wayne had would still trump Crosby if they were both brought up with the same opportunities. |
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big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH Joined: 08.23.2010
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they would be playing two men down and a short bench every game and would lose horribly. - Barx
100% correct. |
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Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri Joined: 04.01.2011
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so you think crosby wouldnt get 150 point seasons in the 80's? - big_dion
Crosby cries enough now when a defender looks at him the wrong way, imagine he was clutched, grabbed, and tackled shift in and shift out. |
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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Of course he wouldnt , but i bet you think mario would. - Prolific_Scorer
Oh, because.... he's french!
AAHAHAHAH GOOD ONE!
Good God you're an idiot... |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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so you think crosby wouldnt get 150 point seasons in the 80's? - big_dion
No...He'd be injured every fifth game... |
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Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri Joined: 04.01.2011
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This I agree with. Give Gretz the same opportunities that Crosby had with the same available training and equipment and I'd still take Gretzky's vision over Crosby. The biggest difference is that Crosby can play the physical game that Gertzky didn't have. But I think the genius hockey mind that Wayne had would still trump Crosby if they were both brought up with the same opportunities. - Domaju
Yup. |
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big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH Joined: 08.23.2010
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This I agree with. Give Gretz the same opportunities that Crosby had with the same available training and equipment and I'd still take Gretzky's vision over Crosby. The biggest difference is that Crosby can play the physical game that Gertzky didn't have. But I think the genius hockey mind that Wayne had would still trump Crosby if they were both brought up with the same opportunities. - Domaju
5 crosbys
vs
5 gretzkys
who u really think would win?
id say Crosby. cause he may break up a few plays, where gretzky wouldnt.
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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Lidstrom - AdamFrench
I will raise you an Orr. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Kids these days. - Prolific_Scorer
i wouldnt laugh, he isnt wrong.. coming off an injury crosby scored 39 points in 22 games
that translates into a 145 point season..
and thats the pace he set coming off injury |
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Lidstrom - AdamFrench
He's deity... |
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Why must selling your house be such a pain in the
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Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri Joined: 04.01.2011
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Oh, because.... he's french!
AAHAHAHAH GOOD ONE!
Good God you're an idiot... - Pecafan Fan
You're so (frank)ing transparent its funny. |
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hscesq
Referee Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY Joined: 06.26.2007
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Shutt is in the Hall of Fame, what would he know..
Anyway, I was speaking as an average, not the best players of all time.. - bixll
You drinking from your cellar again, Bix? |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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I will raise you an Orr. - LeafMan
You know my opinion on this. |
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celata29
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA Joined: 06.14.2012
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i wouldnt say crosby>gretzky or gretzky>crosby
2 totally different Era's of hockey.
both are the best for their ERA. - big_dion
Can you really say Crosby is the best of his era...guys missed a lot of hockey. Definitely when healthy the best player, but you can't really staple him the best player of an era when what, 7 years into his career, the majority of 2 of those seasons has been missed. |
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Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri Joined: 04.01.2011
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hscesq
Referee Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY Joined: 06.26.2007
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i wouldnt laugh, he isnt wrong.. coming off an injury crosby scored 39 points in 22 games
that translates into a 145 point season..
and thats the pace he set coming off injury - Dozzer
Steve Shutt could outscore Sidney Crosby in 1956. There is no doubt. |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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Oh, because.... he's french!
AAHAHAHAH GOOD ONE!
Good God you're an idiot... - Pecafan Fan
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big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH Joined: 08.23.2010
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Kids these days. - Prolific_Scorer
really? so my vision isnt the same as yours, so im a kid?
ahh yes, words of wisdom, there ya have it. |
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Gretzky dominated his sport moreso than any other athlete ever.
Nuff' said.
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