Robert Esche went 29-7-5
- cor99

would be great if neither TO or FLO took Luongo.

Those guys were signed so as not to rush the young guys.
- burn

well, if Connolly would have signed a 1 yr deal, I'm sure Burkie would have done it...

Lombardi was punishment for Franson for Lebda

- Domaju

DAMN!

Frattin replaces Mac though, and if not Frattin, JVR certainly does. Lombardi and Connolly are afterthoughts, MacArthur actually has trade value, he's the one they should be trying to trade for upgrades.

any deal involving Connolly or Lombardi will involve something coming back we won't like
- Big_Lightnin

What was being discussed was trading Connolly and Lombardi at the deadline. Keeping Lombardi just to trade him at the deadline doesn't make much sense.

leafs should poach a goalie from the khl and tel Gillis to go (frank) himself.
- hunglikeapuck

or just keep the goalies they already have...

who's in KHL worthwhile... unless maybe Huet (though he's in Swiss league is he not?)

DAMN!
- Flyfreaky

Hey thanks for bringing that back... it's been missed

would be great if neither TO or FLO took Luongo.
- hunglikeapuck

It would be better if Florida took Luongo because it opens the door to acquire Markstrom.

What was being discussed was trading Connolly and Lombardi at the deadline. Keeping Lombardi just to trade him at the deadline doesn't make much sense.
- Two_For_Truth

Well, if you get rid of him too soon, then how will you replace his 3 goals?

or just keep the goalies they already have...

who's in KHL worthwhile... unless maybe Huet (though he's in Swiss league is he not?)
- Big_Lightnin

yes and yes.

Hey thanks for bringing that back... it's been missed
- Big_Lightnin

Wow! My eyes are still watering...

What was being discussed was trading Connolly and Lombardi at the deadline. Keeping Lombardi just to trade him at the deadline doesn't make much sense.
- Two_For_Truth

still, that was going on hours ago.

then my point stands further - why waste a spot with both of them in hopes of getting a 2nd or 3rd round pick at abosolute best, while Fratting and Kadri miss out on NHL time.

both need to be up full time now.

Well, if you get rid of him too soon, then how will you replace his 3 goals?
- Flyfreaky

trade for Gomez and play him 47 minutes a game?

Wow! My eyes are still watering...
- Flyfreaky

am I the only one who thinks the Brunette is hotter than Waynette? (ridiculous mammories aside...)

probably, but I don;t like it from a Leafs stand point either, considering chemistry with Lupul is largely responsible for Kessel going PPG. When Lupul went down, Kessel's production dropped of dramatically.

Ideally they find a way to add a center AND keep Lupul and Kessel together.
- Big_Lightnin

Stastny was a 70-80 point two-way center in his mid 20s. If the offer was Lupul for Stastny, the Leafs would be insane to pass on it. Lupul had a very good year but regardless of what professor Jimmy_T said, buying low and selling high is exactly what the Leafs should do with Lupul if they can. Believe it or not, one of JVR, Kadri and Frattin, could replace Lupul from within. The same can't be said at center.

trade for Gomez and play him 47 minutes a game?
- Big_Lightnin

Why would you trade a three goal scorer for a one goal scorer?

am I the only one who thinks the Brunette is hotter than Waynette? (ridiculous mammories aside...)
- Big_Lightnin

Didn't even notice they had hair...

still, that was going on hours ago.

then my point stands further - why waste a spot with both of them in hopes of getting a 2nd or 3rd round pick at abosolute best, while Fratting and Kadri miss out on NHL time.

both need to be up full time now.
- Big_Lightnin

We're in agreement here, you just don't know it yet.

Well, if you get rid of him too soon, then how will you replace his 3 goals?
- Flyfreaky

A hole that big would require an industrial sized cork.

Stastny was a 70-80 point two-way center in his mid 20s. If the offer was Lupul for Stastny, the Leafs would be insane to pass on it. Lupul had a very good year but regardless of what professor Jimmy_T said, buying low and selling high is exactly what the Leafs should do with Lupul if they can. Believe it or not, one of JVR, Kadri and Frattin, could replace Lupul from within. The same can't be said at center.
- Two_For_Truth

but...but... Kadri and JVR are going to duke it out for 1st line center


Said this yesterday - looking at Lupul, last year wasn't really overacheiving when you consider what he did elsewhere with the ice-time he was given.

He's been solid for ~25goals ~50 pts getting 2nd and 3rd line minutes, and was on similar pace even in the injury shortened years...

His "career year" in goals and points can be just as much a product of getting 1st line minutes and #1 PP time...

I would do whatever possible to avoid trading him, unless for a dramatically clear win.

Stastny, if he returned to form, would be a clear win. If he didn't, it's not a good trade IMO...

When you consider Leafs would likely have to make it Lupul +, I don't like it.

Why would you trade a three goal scorer for a one goal scorer?
- Flyfreaky

that's the only thing about that post that seemed strange?

that's the only thing about that post that seemed strange?
- Big_Lightnin

It would be better if Florida took Luongo because it opens the door to acquire Markstrom.
- Two_For_Truth

would imagine Gillis will take Markstrom in the deal no? since he can't have Hubedeau

but...but... Kadri and JVR are going to duke it out for 1st line center


Said this yesterday - looking at Lupul, last year wasn't really overacheiving when you consider what he did elsewhere with the ice-time he was given.

He's been solid for ~25goals ~50 pts getting 2nd and 3rd line minutes, and was on similar pace even in the injury shortened years...

His "career year" in goals and points can be just as much a product of getting 1st line minutes and #1 PP time...

I would do whatever possible to avoid trading him, unless for a dramatically clear win.

Stastny, if he returned to form, would be a clear win. If he didn't, it's not a good trade IMO...

When you consider Leafs would likely have to make it Lupul +, I don't like it.
- Big_Lightnin

I think if you move Lupul you need to get something better than Stastny...

but...but... Kadri and JVR are going to duke it out for 1st line center

Said this yesterday - looking at Lupul, last year wasn't really overacheiving when you consider what he did elsewhere with the ice-time he was given.

He's been solid for ~25goals ~50 pts getting 2nd and 3rd line minutes, and was on similar pace even in the injury shortened years...

His "career year" in goals and points can be just as much a product of getting 1st line minutes and #1 PP time...

I would do whatever possible to avoid trading him, unless for a dramatically clear win.

Stastny, if he returned to form, would be a clear win. If he didn't, it's not a good trade IMO...

When you consider Leafs would likely have to make it Lupul +, I don't like it.
- Big_Lightnin

Two men, one spot. And acquiring Stastny for Lupul would eliminate the need for that silly competition altogether.

Yes it was. Lupul overachieved and had a career year. It happens to a lot of players every year. Stastny, in 200 fewer NHL games, has more points than Lupul does. And he's two years younger. And players center. Stastny has scored 70+ points three times, at a much younger age.

If the offer was Lupul for Stastny, which was the original question, the Leafs would be crazy to say no.

I think if you move Lupul you need to get something better than Stastny...
- Flyfreaky

Crosby or bust.