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Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:40 PM ET

- JoeRussomanno






jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 11 @ 2:41 PM ET
that means it's a fair deal i think
- aightwebang17

Lets put it this way... Weber might be the only guy I would do that for
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:41 PM ET
I have to be honest I pondered it myself.
- JoeRussomanno


I would probably do that deal. Giroux is young, but we have Briere, Schenn and Coots to play center right now. I would try to keep Weber, Coby, Mez, and Grossmann, in that order, for as long as possible.

We would have the need for more wingers - but they are easier to find.

JMIO

This assumes we could sign Weber long term.

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:41 PM ET


- Philly1980

so when are the next winter olympics?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:42 PM ET
i've been wondering that myself... seen a few clues being dropped here and there but haven't been able to put together all the pieces yet.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 2:44 PM ET
Lets put it this way... Weber might be the only guy I would do that for
- jak521


Thats a tough call. Not sure what I would do.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:44 PM ET
hey, did you ever get banned before?
- JoeRussomanno



I believe you are being sarcastic, which is fine.

To answer, yes.

I would say I have been warned a lot more though. "Don't ever do that again" and "do you need reading classes". Maybe a "what are you stupid" or along those lines.

My charm and wit has unfortunately drawn the ire of 4 different refs.

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 11 @ 2:45 PM ET
Thats a tough call. Not sure what I would do.
- stveshdy

really tough... and this doesnt make it any easier...

http://www.youtube.com/wa...Frqm8gSqc&feature=related
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 2:46 PM ET
I believe you are being sarcastic, which is fine.

To answer, yes.

I would say I have been warned a lot more though. "Don't ever do that again" and "do you need reading classes". Maybe a "what are you stupid" or along those lines.

My charm and wit has unfortunately drawn the ire of 4 different refs.

- Daman


I would say your pretty lucky to get warnings. They could just lay the hammer down on the ban.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:48 PM ET
I believe you are being sarcastic, which is fine.

To answer, yes.

I would say I have been warned a lot more though. "Don't ever do that again" and "do you need reading classes". Maybe a "what are you stupid" or along those lines.

My charm and wit has unfortunately drawn the ire of 4 different refs.

- Daman

That's all well and good but the constant reminders of your ban history makes me think of this image
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 11 @ 2:49 PM ET
Thats a tough call. Not sure what I would do.
- stveshdy


if you're the preds you might do it because you get three years of claude before UFA. if you're the flyers, i would not since you're only guaranteed one year of weber.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 2:49 PM ET
really tough... and this doesnt make it any easier...

http://www.youtube.com/wa...Frqm8gSqc&feature=related

- jak521


There's no question that Giroux is an elite player in the NHL. I think a lot would depend on the contract and money. Also would depend on how you believe a team should be built. People who value defense more would probably do that deal.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:49 PM ET
I would say your pretty lucky to get warnings. They could just lay the hammer down on the ban.
- stveshdy


It was all fair. I should get some reading comprehension classes. But sometimes we all type these things quickly and a joke turns into something else.

Also, things are taken literally that shouldn't be, such as "trading our crap for another player".

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 2:50 PM ET
if you're the preds you might do it because you get three years of claude before UFA. if you're the flyers, i would not since you're only guaranteed one year of weber.
- OrangeBlack27


Lets say Weber was willing to sign a long-term extension.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:50 PM ET
That's all well and good but the constant reminders of your ban history makes me think of this image

- JoeRussomanno


Nice. You could even extend the metaphor to sour grapes, beyond the whine and cheese.

Double play for you!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 2:51 PM ET
It was all fair. I should get some reading comprehension classes. But sometimes we all type these things quickly and a joke turns into something else.

Also, things are taken literally that shouldn't be, such as "trading our crap for another player".

- Daman


True. Sometimes too literally.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:52 PM ET
That's all well and good but the constant reminders of your ban history makes me think of this image

- JoeRussomanno


I also apologize for the repetitive nature of my comments. Guess I am on an island on this one.

Other than the 3,200 trade proposals for Nash, Weber, and Ryan that is!
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 11 @ 2:54 PM ET
Lets say Weber was willing to sign a long-term extension.
- stveshdy

Still a reallll tough pill to swallow.

I look at it like this.. Claude Giroux makes everybody on the ice better when he is out there. Does Weber do that? Weber is the premier d-man in the NHL, and might be the best total d-man, all around (offense, defense, nastiness, leadership,etc) since Pronger was in his prime... BUT, idk...

I think I keep G...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:55 PM ET
I also apologize for the repetitive nature of my comments. Guess I am on an island on this one.

Other than the 3,200 trade proposals for Nash, Weber, and Ryan that is!

- Daman

funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 11 @ 2:58 PM ET
"G"
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:58 PM ET
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- funmaster18


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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 2:59 PM ET
Still a reallll tough pill to swallow.

I look at it like this.. Claude Giroux makes everybody on the ice better when he is out there. Does Weber do that? Weber is the premier d-man in the NHL, and might be the best total d-man, all around (offense, defense, nastiness, leadership,etc) since Pronger was in his prime... BUT, idk...

I think I keep G...

- jak521


I would be willing to trade any other player on the roster for Weber but thats just me. The Giroux for Weber proposal is a tough one and I would need more time to think about it before making a decision.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 11 @ 3:01 PM ET
I would be willing to trade any other player on the roster for Weber but thats just me. The Giroux for Weber proposal is a tough one and I would need more time to think about it before making a decision.
- stveshdy

The only saving grace in that trade would be the ability to plug Schenn and Couts in @1-2, and that come UFA you would have a much easier time finding a top line guy than a franchise d-man.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 11 @ 3:04 PM ET
Still a reallll tough pill to swallow.

I look at it like this.. Claude Giroux makes everybody on the ice better when he is out there. Does Weber do that? Weber is the premier d-man in the NHL, and might be the best total d-man, all around (offense, defense, nastiness, leadership,etc) since Pronger was in his prime... BUT, idk...

I think I keep G...

- jak521


Just for argument's sake, you think a guy that pushes the play up-ice with the majority of his shifts starting in his own end against top competition isn't making everybody on the ice better?
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 11 @ 3:04 PM ET
I would be willing to trade any other player on the roster for Weber but thats just me. The Giroux for Weber proposal is a tough one and I would need more time to think about it before making a decision.
- stveshdy


I would not trade Giroux for Weber. Giroux is a special player among special players and is a steal at his current contract. Weber is a top 5 d-man, I know, but without Giroux I think this offense would flounder.

Besides it would totally ruin my SN.
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