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Forums :: Blog World :: Eric Engels: Eller Extended. Bourque's Opportunity. Subban Terms?
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Traceur
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Animosity, QC
Joined: 03.27.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:01 AM ET
1. i don't see Eller ever becoming more than a 15-goal, 20-assist guy (with an exceptional year now and then where he hits 20-30) . i just don't see it in his game. but for a third-line centre, that's more than adequate production.

2. Bourque had a reputation as an aloof, distant player in Calagary. i don't recall many Flames fans sad to see him go. it would be nice to see him back in 50-point form, but if this team is depending on that, they're in trouble.

3. PK is like a 12-year-old's Richard. he's on the verge of exploding. don't see him getting complacent. anything less than 6 years for him is utterly retarded. Bergevin seems to have enough foresight to make the right call.

- DoubleDown


I agree with all of this
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 9 @ 11:02 AM ET
I agree with all of this
- Traceur

Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jul 9 @ 11:02 AM ET

- Symba007


20 goal season! - EE

70 Point Season!! - Habby
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:03 AM ET
rob... your take on this please?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 9 @ 11:03 AM ET
20 goal season! - EE

70 Point Season!! - Habby

PK is like a 12-year-old's Richard - DD

- Oilhab

fixed
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 9 @ 11:03 AM ET
1. i don't see Eller ever becoming more than a 15-goal, 20-assist guy (with an exceptional year now and then where he hits 20-30) . i just don't see it in his game. but for a third-line centre, that's more than adequate production.

2. Bourque had a reputation as an aloof, distant player in Calagary. i don't recall many Flames fans sad to see him go. it would be nice to see him back in 50-point form, but if this team is depending on that, they're in trouble.

3. PK is like a 12-year-old's Richard. he's on the verge of exploding. don't see him getting complacent. anything less than 6 years for him is utterly retarded. Bergevin seems to have enough foresight to make the right call.

- DoubleDown


This.

But I'm willing to wait after this year before saying Eller won't be more than a 35 point guy. With some powerplay time and decent linemates.... he's still young and has lots of skills.
willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

Jul 9 @ 11:04 AM ET
Ask a Calgary fan how he got his 27 goals a year
- Oilhab


Who cares how he got it.....he got it. So he doesn't hit, he doesn't fight, he still scores 27 goals a year. That would have put him on pace with guys like Vanek, Giroux, and a whole bunch more around 40th overall in the league.

He plays well defensively, and he scores 27 a year.......enough said.
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 9 @ 11:04 AM ET
fixed
- Symba007

Dare to tweet that to PK?
WaterBoy
Location: The opposite of what Pat says, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jul 9 @ 11:05 AM ET
Habs Talk
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.03.2005

Jul 9 @ 11:06 AM ET
1. i don't see Eller ever becoming more than a 15-goal, 20-assist guy (with an exceptional year now and then where he hits 20-30) . i just don't see it in his game. but for a third-line centre, that's more than adequate production.

2. Bourque had a reputation as an aloof, distant player in Calagary. i don't recall many Flames fans sad to see him go. it would be nice to see him back in 50-point form, but if this team is depending on that, they're in trouble.

3. PK is like a 12-year-old's Richard. he's on the verge of exploding. don't see him getting complacent. anything less than 6 years for him is utterly retarded. Bergevin seems to have enough foresight to make the right call.

- DoubleDown


I don't think there's anything wrong with going short on Subban, but to me, it's just delaying the inevitable, and risking having to pay even more than what they would if they locked him up long-term now. It's really not a rush, but if you believe, like I do, that's he's shown enough to know what he'll be six years down the line, why wait?
mcmanmat
Montreal Canadiens
Location: hey assface I used that locati
Joined: 10.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 11:11 AM ET
Who cares how he got it.....he got it. So he doesn't hit, he doesn't fight, he still scores 27 goals a year. That would have put him on pace with guys like Vanek, Giroux, and a whole bunch more around 40th overall in the league.

He plays well defensively, and he scores 27 a year.......enough said.

- willey101


He should consider changing this habit. He wins the fights I've seen him in.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 9 @ 11:12 AM ET
I don't think there's anything wrong with going short on Subban, but to me, it's just delaying the inevitable, and risking having to pay even more than what they would if they locked him up long-term now. It's really not a rush, but if you believe, like I do, that's he's shown enough to know what he'll be six years down the line, why wait?
- EricEngels


I agree with you EE, wonder if he would accept the same contract Gorges received.... 6 years around 4-4.5 per?
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:12 AM ET
EE, I expect Galchenyuk to play in Sarnia next season.
But what if he is ready and they decide to keep him??
Which center do they trade DD, Plek or Eller?
Rtt19
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 08.09.2011

Jul 9 @ 11:12 AM ET



- dt99999



Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 9 @ 11:13 AM ET
oh
willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

Jul 9 @ 11:13 AM ET
He should consider changing this habit. He wins the fights I've seen him in.
- mcmanmat


He can but it's not in some people's nature.

Obviously we all prefer a 6'2, warrior who slams bodies, drives to the net, fights at will but that's not his game. His game is to use his speed and score off the rush. Maybe go 8 games without a goal and then score 2-3 in a game. Reliable defensively and still goes to the net.

If we can throw a player out there who won't cost you a goal and scores 27 a year I'd take that every day of the week.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 9 @ 11:15 AM ET
I don't think there's anything wrong with going short on Subban, but to me, it's just delaying the inevitable, and risking having to pay even more than what they would if they locked him up long-term now. It's really not a rush, but if you believe, like I do, that's he's shown enough to know what he'll be six years down the line, why wait?
- EricEngels


right. im not saying we'll lose him. i just think he'll end up costing a lot more in 2 years. still put up 36 points after a terrible first half.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 9 @ 11:16 AM ET



- dt99999


pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:16 AM ET
He can but it's not in some people's nature.

Obviously we all prefer a 6'2, warrior who slams bodies, drives to the net, fights at will but that's not his game. His game is to use his speed and score off the rush. Maybe go 8 games without a goal and then score 2-3 in a game. Reliable defensively and still goes to the net.

If we can throw a player out there who won't cost you a goal and scores 27 a year I'd take that every day of the week.

- willey101

I think he will be better this year.
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:18 AM ET
oh
- AdamFrench

my
mcmanmat
Montreal Canadiens
Location: hey assface I used that locati
Joined: 10.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 11:18 AM ET
He can but it's not in some people's nature.

Obviously we all prefer a 6'2, warrior who slams bodies, drives to the net, fights at will but that's not his game. His game is to use his speed and score off the rush. Maybe go 8 games without a goal and then score 2-3 in a game. Reliable defensively and still goes to the net.

If we can throw a player out there who won't cost you a goal and scores 27 a year I'd take that every day of the week.

- willey101


I'm not suggesting he turn into Chris Neil, but fighting more than once or twice a season would really elevate his game.

Bourque needs to play a bit more swagger in his game. Even if he's not likely to fight, the fact that he shows he's not afraid to do so 3-4 times/year will go a long way in developing that swagger. Just my opinion.
MadManPaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: BC
Joined: 08.02.2010

Jul 9 @ 11:21 AM ET
EE, I expect Galchenyuk to play in Sarnia next season.
But what if he is ready and they decide to keep him??
Which center do they trade DD, Plek or Eller?

- fidopro


They wouldn't have to trade any of them. If Galchenyuk does make the roster he would most likely be on the 4th line anyhow. Desharnais, Plekanec, Eller and Galchenyuk. Not a bad grouping of centreman in my opinion.(No I didn't forget Gomez, I just happen to think he will be plying his trade in Hamilton by the end of October at the latest!)
yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:21 AM ET
Good deal for Eller. Hopefully he'll get some time on the powerplay to prove himself this year.


- Scabeh

Me too. Lots of time.
yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:22 AM ET
I'm not suggesting he turn into Chris Neil,

- mcmanmat

Leblanc has that covered.

-QP
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 9 @ 11:23 AM ET
LOL dan
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