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pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jul 9 @ 1:57 PM ET
Last night, a friend tipped me on a rumored proposal that would have the Hawks sending Kane and Niklas Hjalmarsson to the Habs for Tomas Plekanec and PK Subban. And the Hawks are allegedly holding out for the Canadiens to add a high draft pick or two.

When I pressed him for more details and back story, it turned out this allegedly has as its source a fairly highly placed person in the Canadiens' organization. I am presently checking with some Hawk sources on this.

But there are some dots that would seem to connect here. Underlying the Montreal rumors I have heard has been a strong desire on the part of new Montreal GM Marc Bergevin to obtain Kane.

Also, Subban fits the Hawks blueline needs like a glove—arguably better than Ryan Suter because of Subban's power play skill and right handed shot.

Plekanec obviously slips perfectly into the second line center role, where he could be a very nice complement to Marian Hossa.

Montreal gets a creative, highlight reel offensive player in Kane and a solid second pairing d-man with some unfulfilled offensive upside in Hjalmarsson.

In my opinion, if valid, this is an example of a deal where the Hawks would be stupid not to to at least consider dealing Kane—whether you think they 'should' or should not' in the absence of an actual deal on the table.

And if Bergevin's interest in Kane is as legitimate as I hear, then there could be something to this story after all.

- AdamFrench


Should be building a solid d with PK included.
hon_hon_hon
Montreal Canadiens
Location: @hon_hon_hon# re #price @habs I hope @# they call @# him up. -@#hon_hon_hon #@#! #112v #k#1r3@
Joined: 04.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 1:57 PM ET
I don't really see how Montreal wins this trade, nevermind Chicago's "holdout" for a high pick.
- mcmanmat


We don't.
mcmanmat
Montreal Canadiens
Location: hey assface I used that locati
Joined: 10.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:58 PM ET
We don't.
- hon_hon_hon


Oh.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:59 PM ET
Oh.
- mcmanmat

BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:00 PM ET
Rtt19
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 08.09.2011

Jul 9 @ 2:01 PM ET
We don't.
- hon_hon_hon

It's a good trade for both teams.
PRICEless
Montreal Canadiens
Location: On sait JAMAIS!!! Faut pas jet, QC
Joined: 10.11.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:02 PM ET

- BingoLady


It's weird how the guy on that picture totally look like boobs.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 9 @ 2:02 PM ET
Depends on your pitching style I guess, some guys are so fluid they look like they are not even forcing.
- Fredobface


sounds like me when im poopting
mcmanmat
Montreal Canadiens
Location: hey assface I used that locati
Joined: 10.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:04 PM ET

- BingoLady


Yeah, I was thinking for a while now that a millionaire alcoholic in a city with a reputation of having a decent club scene is a great combo.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
Should be building a solid d with PK included.
- pete26


Exactly

...and Kane is UFA in 3 years
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
It's weird how the guy on that picture totally look like boobs.
- PRICEless


He's no Eller that's for sure.
mcmanmat
Montreal Canadiens
Location: hey assface I used that locati
Joined: 10.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
It's a good trade for both teams.
- Rtt19


No it isn't.
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
Yeah, I was thinking for a while now that a millionaire alcoholic in a city with a reputation of having a decent club scene is a great combo.
- mcmanmat


Tabarnak, he's 21 and likes to have fun.





*Relates*

*But isn't a millionaire*
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
Exactly

...and Kane is UFA in 3 years

- stinger67


and has a cap hit of 6.3 M$
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jul 9 @ 2:05 PM ET
Last night, a friend tipped me on a rumored proposal that would have the Hawks sending Kane and Niklas Hjalmarsson to the Habs for Tomas Plekanec and PK Subban. And the Hawks are allegedly holding out for the Canadiens to add a high draft pick or two.

When I pressed him for more details and back story, it turned out this allegedly has as its source a fairly highly placed person in the Canadiens' organization. I am presently checking with some Hawk sources on this.

But there are some dots that would seem to connect here. Underlying the Montreal rumors I have heard has been a strong desire on the part of new Montreal GM Marc Bergevin to obtain Kane.

Also, Subban fits the Hawks blueline needs like a glove—arguably better than Ryan Suter because of Subban's power play skill and right handed shot.

Plekanec obviously slips perfectly into the second line center role, where he could be a very nice complement to Marian Hossa.

Montreal gets a creative, highlight reel offensive player in Kane and a solid second pairing d-man with some unfulfilled offensive upside in Hjalmarsson.

In my opinion, if valid, this is an example of a deal where the Hawks would be stupid not to to at least consider dealing Kane—whether you think they 'should' or should not' in the absence of an actual deal on the table.

And if Bergevin's interest in Kane is as legitimate as I hear, then there could be something to this story after all.

- AdamFrench

kev1586
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Earlton, ON
Joined: 04.27.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:05 PM ET
I don't really see how Montreal wins this trade, nevermind Chicago's "holdout" for a high pick.
- mcmanmat


This. Straight up, I think it's a trade worth considering. If we have to add to that package, then Bowman can go to hell. There has to be better trade options out there...

As for the argument about Eller vs. Galchenyuk that all of you were having ealier. I think Plekanec is the moveable piece if both HAVE to play at center, we just have to hope he has a better season so you can sell high.

Eller is a 7th overall pick too, so I don't get the whole Galchenyuk is the franchise player because he was picked third overall. If they end up dominating as a tandem then who really cares which one plays center and which one doesn't?? Eller needs to fill-out his frame and Galchnyuk will need to fix his knee.

Desharnais is a pretty good 2nd line option if he can learn to take care of his own end. (which he not very good at no matter how hard Gaston Therrien tries to prove to opposite.)

Anyways, I just wanted throw in that having Galchenyuk at wing for one season just to give him less responsibilities (a la Seguin) should not be something that creates this much craziness. Eller still has room to grow, and in the unlikely event that the team decides to keep Galchenyuk, having a year where he has less responsibilities to learn the ropes of the league is not at all a reason to have people freaking out.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:06 PM ET
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l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:06 PM ET
and has a cap hit of 6.3 M$
- stinger67

What's Pleks No-trade clause? Includes a list of teams?
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:06 PM ET
This. Straight up, I think it's a trade worth considering. If we have to add to that package, then Bowman can go to hell. There has to be better trade options out there...

As for the argument about Eller Galchenyuk that all of you were having ealier. I think Plekanec is the moveable piece if both HAVE to play at center, we just have to hope he has a better season so you can sell high.

Eller is a 7th overall pick too, so I don't get the whole Galchenyuk is the franchise player because he was picked third overall. If they end up dominating as a tandem then who really cares which one plays center and which one doesn't?? Eller needs to fill-out his frame and Galchnyuk will need to fix his knee.

Desharnais is a pretty good 2nd line option if he can learn to take care of his own end. (which he not very good at no matter how hard Gaston Therrien tries to prove to opposite.)

Anyways, I just wanted throw in that having Galchenyuk at wing for one season just to give him less responsibilities (a la Seguin) should not be something that creates this much craziness. Eller still has room to grow, and in the unlikely event that the team decides to keep Galchenyuk, having a year where he has less responsibilities to learn the ropes of the league is not at all a reason to have people freaking out.

- kev1586


ahem, 13th.
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 9 @ 2:07 PM ET
What's Pleks No-trade clause? Includes a list of teams?
- l3ig_l2ecl

Think he'd refuse to play with Hossa?
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 9 @ 2:07 PM ET
Markov - Kaberle would become our 1st PP wave's point D.

That's a 2006 wet dream come true!!

- PRICEless


they'd just keep teeing it up for each other.
Le_Moderateur
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.29.2011

Jul 9 @ 2:07 PM ET
It's a good trade for both teams.
- Rtt19


I don't like it at all. Trade value is debatable but if you want a talented bumhole, why not signing Semin and lose no assets?

PRICEless
Montreal Canadiens
Location: On sait JAMAIS!!! Faut pas jet, QC
Joined: 10.11.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:07 PM ET
He's no Eller that's for sure.
- Pecafan Fan


Was Eller on that picture too? All i can see are boobs.
mcmanmat
Montreal Canadiens
Location: hey assface I used that locati
Joined: 10.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:07 PM ET
Tabarnak, he's 21 and likes to have fun.





*Relates*

*But isn't a millionaire*

- _nay_


Meh...if I had his kind of money, I'd be dead in a year.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 9 @ 2:08 PM ET
ahem, 13th.
- stinger67

Racist.
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