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bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 9 @ 4:08 PM ET


I just finished a really cool sci/fi trilogy if you're into that (no, only two of the books were last weekend) I think the first one is still free if you're into that stuff and need suggestions.

- JoeRussomanno

I may have to hit u up. Sounds delicious
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 9 @ 4:09 PM ET

- Flyskippy

U really do get no love sometimes wtf
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 4:09 PM ET
Is Semin for the cost of a contract alone better than trading Voracek, Read & a prospect for Ryan?

I'm not a fan of Semin, but I really hate overpaying for anybody.

- Jsaquella


If Ryan reaches his potential, it won't be overpayment, but I understand what you're getting at.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 9 @ 4:09 PM ET
If Ryan reaches his potential, it won't be overpayment, but I understand what you're getting at.
- LordStanley88

what exactly is his potential and what are we paying?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 9 @ 4:10 PM ET
same
- aightwebang17

@ Page 8
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 9 @ 4:10 PM ET

- Flyskippy



pretty sure kicksave is orig as well
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 4:10 PM ET
I'm just saying how do you know its not the case? Just because you didn't hear it doesn't mean it's not so.
- JoeRussomanno


Why would I speculate otherwise without proof?
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 4:11 PM ET
what exactly is his potential and what are we paying?
- JoeRussomanno


1) See Jsaquella's proposal

2) 40+ goal scoring Power Forward
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 4:11 PM ET
If Ryan reaches his potential, it won't be overpayment, but I understand what you're getting at.
- LordStanley88


It will be, if Voracek reaches his potential it would be.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 9 @ 4:12 PM ET
Why would I speculate otherwise without proof?
- LordStanley88

You just did by saying Washington wanted nothing to do with him.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 9 @ 4:12 PM ET
I thought I heard something but didn't want to be percieved as talking out my butt. Big trend breaker I know.
- JoeRussomanno

Never
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 4:12 PM ET
It will be, if Voracek reaches his potential it would be.
- Jsaquella


That would depend on how Read does then.

Moving forward, I'd definitely take Ryan over Voracek, although I'm a big fan of the latter's. The problem is what Anaheim would want on top of Jake.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 4:13 PM ET
You just did by saying Washington wanted nothing to do with him.
- JoeRussomanno


They have not presented him an offer by all reports........
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 9 @ 4:13 PM ET
1) See Jsaquella's proposal

2) 40+ goal scoring Power Forward

- LordStanley88

So two guys with 20-30 goal potential is worth one that gets 40?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 9 @ 4:13 PM ET
If Ryan reaches his potential, it won't be overpayment, but I understand what you're getting at.
- LordStanley88

At what point does a guy stop having potential and starting being what he is?

Bobby Ryan is going to be 26...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 9 @ 4:14 PM ET
They have not presented him an offer by all reports........
- LordStanley88

That means nothing.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 4:14 PM ET
So two guys with 20-30 goal potential is worth one that gets 40?
- JoeRussomanno


40+...

Ryan could potentially score 50 or more next to G IMO.

I feel like I'm talking to a wall.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 9 @ 4:14 PM ET
They have not presented him an offer by all reports........
- LordStanley88

Couldnt that be for an assortment of reasons.... including him saying he would like to explore other options?
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 4:14 PM ET
That means nothing.
- JoeRussomanno


JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 9 @ 4:14 PM ET
At what point does a guy stop having potential and starting being what he is?

Bobby Ryan is going to be 26...

- jak521

when he is 27, 38 in flyer years.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
So two guys with 20-30 goal potential is worth one that gets 40?
- JoeRussomanno

Depends really, are the rwo in question bringing punch and pie?
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
Couldnt that be for an assortment of reasons.... including him saying he would like to explore other options?
- jak521


Sure, but if this guy was such a great and impact player, then why are McPhee and the Caps not pushing to keep this guy?
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
pretty sure kicksave is orig as well
- Don'tForgetTocchet

the pilgrims of hockeybuzz
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
40+...

Ryan could potentially score 50 or more next to G IMO.

I feel like I'm talking to a wall.

- LordStanley88

Ryan could also potentially fall in love with crack cocaine and end up with a severe case of Hep C.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
40+...

Ryan could potentially score 50 or more next to G IMO.

I feel like I'm talking to a wall.

- LordStanley88

He's not exactly playing with John Druce over there in Anaheim ya know.
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