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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 3 @ 10:26 AM ET
how about an independence day 17.76?
- OrangeBlack27


Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 3 @ 10:32 AM ET
Hockey scouts seem to dsiagree with you considering he was selected 6th overall in 2000.
- LordStanley88


So scouts in 2000 disagreed with me 2 years ago.

I'm not even sure that makes sense.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 3 @ 10:35 AM ET
So scouts in 2000 disagreed with me 2 years ago.

I'm not even sure that makes sense.

- Daman


My overarching point is that he has signficant talent, and scouts labeled him as such when he was coming up as a prospect.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 3 @ 10:35 AM ET
4 yrs/$18 million does seem like a good starting offer though.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 3 @ 10:36 AM ET
I said it yesterday and Ill say it again. The Flyers need to get out of the expensive jewelry section of the store and head on over to home improvements.

These offers they apparently have out to both Parise and Suter are wrong on so many levels.

Please Homer, rescind the offers, and move on. Fill the holes with role players and character guys, save your cap flexibility, and let these kids grow as a team.

PUHLEEEEEEHZ!

- MBFlyerfan

I agree.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jul 3 @ 10:38 AM ET
Here we don't go again. You're making crap up. The player himself said he is looking at things from all different angles.

I didn't say he wouldn't come here because it is a horrible place to live.

I think you are arguing a point that I didn't make, or you're just making crap up.

I'm sure when Parise doesn't sign here you will state that I was right.

- Daman


I highly doubt that he will sign here. But not because it isn't a nice place to live.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 3 @ 10:40 AM ET
My overarching point is that he has signficant talent, and scouts labeled him as such when he was coming up as a prospect.
- LordStanley88


MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Jul 3 @ 10:42 AM ET

- bradleyc4


He looks so innocent ...
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 3 @ 10:42 AM ET

- bradleyc4


aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 3 @ 10:43 AM ET
Way to go Zach, Andy Griffith waited as long as he could
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 3 @ 10:54 AM ET
Way to go Zach, Andy Griffith waited as long as he could
- aosplayo



2soon
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 3 @ 10:54 AM ET
Way to go Zach, Andy Griffith waited as long as he could
- aosplayo


Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 3 @ 10:57 AM ET
I highly doubt that he will sign here. But not because it isn't a nice place to live.
- Jimmygrazz


Jimmy Grazz (or Grass?) - I never said it isn't a nice place to live. I dedicated an entire post as to why it is a nice play to live. WTF
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 3 @ 10:59 AM ET
My overarching point is that he has signficant talent, and scouts labeled him as such when he was coming up as a prospect.
- LordStanley88


I'm not sure talent and athletic ability are always 100% correlated.

For God's sake, the running joke is that he can't stay on his skates.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:05 AM ET
Bobby Ryan and Weber next year.

Hartnell and Timonen come off the books next year and you make a monster push for Weber.

- Flyers2821

Ok...under the Boardering on Crazy category...
Can we send Timmo and Hartsy back to the Preds
for Weber? I know they have NMC / NTCs, but they
Came from there and they are best buds. Would that
be a deal that either side would do...so long as
we could get Weber extended?
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:08 AM ET
Ok...under the Boardering on Crazy category...
Can we send Timmo and Hartsy back to the Preds
for Weber? I know they have NMC / NTCs, but they
Came from there and they are best buds. Would that
be a deal that either side would do...so long as
we could get Weber extended?

- section32




is this a haiku?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 3 @ 11:08 AM ET
Just want to say I do not want to trade Jake V in a deal for Bob Ryan.

Replacing Jagr, Jvr, and Jake V with Bobby Ryan is a mistake.

Rather get a free agent winger, Doan sounds about the best right now.
3 years, fine, whatever. Guy has character, size, leadership and would be a great fit.
Type of player that helps a team win a Cup (well not so much in the desert but maybe here, you know what I mean).

Oh and Carle. Nothing over 5.25M. Otherwise thanks Matt and good luck in St Louis or where ever you end up.

That's it for me today, hope everyone has a great day here.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jul 3 @ 11:09 AM ET
Ok...under the Boardering on Crazy category...
Can we send Timmo and Hartsy back to the Preds
for Weber? I know they have NMC / NTCs, but they
Came from there and they are best buds. Would that
be a deal that either side would do...so long as
we could get Weber extended?

- section32


Nashville would be getting robbed in that deal. I don't see why Timonen would waive a NTC to go there, when it is his last contract year and he wants his best shot at a cup. Not sure about Hartnell, but he seems to like it here. Simply put, we'd still have to attach a few prospects on that deal in order to get Nashville's attention, and when all is said and done, our team will look worse than it does right now.

Sorry, but the trade makes little hockey sense.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:10 AM ET
Ok...under the Boardering on Crazy category...
Can we send Timmo and Hartsy back to the Preds
for Weber? I know they have NMC / NTCs, but they
Came from there and they are best buds. Would that
be a deal that either side would do...so long as
we could get Weber extended?

- section32


Boardering??? No that is just (frank)ing crazy.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:10 AM ET
Just want to say I do not want to trade Jake V in a deal for Bob Ryan.

Replacing Jagr, Jvr, and Jake V with Bobby Ryan is a mistake.

Rather get a free agent winger, Doan sounds about the best right now.
3 years, fine, whatever. Guy has character, size, leadership and would be a great fit.
Type of player that helps a team win a Cup (well not so much in the desert but maybe here, you know what I mean).

Oh and Carle. Nothing over 5.25M. Otherwise thanks Matt and good luck in St Louis or where ever you end up.

That's it for me today, hope everyone has a great day here.

- Marc D


agree on all points (even tho i love b ryan)

you have a nice day as well.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 3 @ 11:11 AM ET

- bradleyc4

I like the dainty font they used for his name, it's a good fit.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jul 3 @ 11:12 AM ET
Just want to say I do not want to trade Jake V in a deal for Bob Ryan.

Replacing Jagr, Jvr, and Jake V with Bobby Ryan is a mistake.

Rather get a free agent winger, Doan sounds about the best right now.
3 years, fine, whatever. Guy has character, size, leadership and would be a great fit.
Type of player that helps a team win a Cup (well not so much in the desert but maybe here, you know what I mean).

Oh and Carle. Nothing over 5.25M. Otherwise thanks Matt and good luck in St Louis or where ever you end up.

That's it for me today, hope everyone has a great day here.

- Marc D


I think it's clear that even if they traded Jake+ for Ryan, the Flyers would still look to pick up another forward or 2.

And goodbye Carle. No chance he signs anywhere for under 6M. It's depressing, but it's true.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 3 @ 11:13 AM ET
Andy Strickland :Having seen plenty of Bobby Ryan and Nash I'd put more effort in getting Ryan on my team #Ducks #cbj
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 3 @ 11:14 AM ET
Just want to say I do not want to trade Jake V in a deal for Bob Ryan.

Replacing Jagr, Jvr, and Jake V with Bobby Ryan is a mistake.

Rather get a free agent winger, Doan sounds about the best right now.
3 years, fine, whatever. Guy has character, size, leadership and would be a great fit.
Type of player that helps a team win a Cup (well not so much in the desert but maybe here, you know what I mean).

Oh and Carle. Nothing over 5.25M. Otherwise thanks Matt and good luck in St Louis or where ever you end up.

That's it for me today, hope everyone has a great day here.

- Marc D


bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:15 AM ET
Born right after the glory years. I still would have called him Bob. Or, Mr. Clarke.
- bradleyc4

I'm trying to remember, but I think when I've met him I called him Clarkie.
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