It's funny because Dreger and Mckenzie haven't mentioned once the Flyers being in or out or even having the highest offer in days? I just scrolled back through their twitters. In fact last time Dreger spoke about Flyers and the FA's was on Monday night when he said, "Flyers submitted big bids on both Parise and Suter. For the moment Philly appears to be out on Nash. Things can change quickly."
- Flyers1218

Do you watch NHL network at all? Every single time they talk about it they talk about the Flyers leading the way with the $$ value offer. Every single time.

Even if Suter doesn't want to play here. He still wants that offer to come from Philly. So I don't see Suter telling a Flyers player that.
- MJL

Did he expect that player to go tell Miller? Did Miller get told it was off the record? It could have been an off the cuff comment. It was during the season.

Do you watch NHL network at all? Every single time they talk about it they talk about the Flyers leading the way with the $$ value offer. Every single time.
- Flyers2821

Do you have a video clip of that because not one time have I seen that. Not one time.

Did he expect that player to go tell Miller? Did Miller get told it was off the record? It could have been an off the cuff comment. It was during the season.
- Flyers1218

How do you know Miller was told that?

Do you have a video clip of that because not one time have I seen that. Not one time.
- Flyers1218

Why would I have a video clip of such a thing? I watch NHL network and they say it. It goes into my head and I continue watching. What reason would I have to produce a video clip of it?

Time to go enjoy the start of a mini break from work tonight/tomorrow.

Can't believe I am saying this but thanks for keeping things sane in here MJL!

How do you know Miller was told that?
- MJL

Miller reported and discussed it with Bundy. They talked on twitter about it. That's how.

Miller reported and discussed it with Bundy. They talked on twitter about it. That's how.
- Flyers1218

I guess it wasn't off the record then.

Time to go enjoy the start of a mini break from work tonight/tomorrow.

Can't believe I am saying this but thanks for keeping things sane in here MJL!
- Flyers2821

Enjoy your holiday dude.

I guess it wasn't off the record then.
- MJL

No one see's twitter do they?

I guess it wasn't off the record then.
- MJL

I don't know if it was or wasn't? But he did report that a Flyers player told him during the season that he didn't want to play in Philadelphia. Whether or not that makes Suter an idiot is a different story, but it doesn't negate the fact that it was said. Who knows if that has changed.

MJL, trust your gut. You are good at that. What does it tell you? No one and I mean no one out there seems to think either of these guys are coming here.

No one see's twitter do they?
- Flyers2821

I didn't say it was off the record. I said maybe he was asked to keep it off the record and he didn't (which I doubt).. who knows. Doesn't change the fact that Suter said it. Why would the Flyers player lie?

SO I got my internet back. read through a gazillion pages of Ryan/Suter/Parise. Dear Lord.....
I really do hope Rick Tocchet has gotten through to Holmgren because Shane Doan and some low key signings would be huge for this team. Gives you the gritty but gifted top six forward the Flyers need and room to boot. I see a lot of people married to the idea that the cup is won by signing and trading in July Voracek is gonna be a gem in this league. Guys, he put up 47 points being shuffled around the lineup and was widely considered one of, if not the best defensive forwards on the Flyers this past playoffs. So many of you are ready to deal him away like a worn out spare tire I can't believe it Oh well carry on with the insanity, just thought I'd lend some sanity to the board....

Parise and Suter are just chillin. No need to rush.

I don't know if it was or wasn't? But he did report that a Flyers player told him during the season that he didn't want to play in Philadelphia. Whether or not that makes Suter an idiot is a different story, but it doesn't negate the fact that it was said. Who knows if that has changed.

MJL, trust your gut. You are good at that. What does it tell you? No one and I mean no one out there seems to think either of these guys are coming here.
- Flyers1218

If a reporter is told something off the record, that usually means that it's not meant for the public. My gut has nothing to do with it. It's understanding how the NHL works. And when your a Organization like the Flyers, and you have a monster offer in to a player, you have a shot at it.

My gut told me last year that there was no way the Flyers were going to trade Richards and Carter.

Parise and Suter are just chillin. No need to rush.
- stveshdy

Neither one of those guys is worth more than 7 mill a year and (good Lord) 10+ years.... good go to the penguins and frag their cap.... plz by all means.

I didn't say it was off the record. I said maybe he was asked to keep it off the record and he didn't (which I doubt).. who knows. Doesn't change the fact that Suter said it. Why would the Flyers player lie?
- Flyers1218

Hold on here! Just because a reporter said it, doesn't make it a fact that Suter said it. It's hearsay. When you hear Suter say it, or it's reported in quotes, then it's a fact. That's part of the problem with today's media and social media.

If a reporter is told something off the record, that usually means that it's not meant for the public. My gut has nothing to do with it. It's understanding how the NHL works. And when your a Organization like the Flyers, and you have a monster offer in to a player, you have a shot at it.

My gut told me last year that there was no way the Flyers were going to trade Richards and Carter.
- MJL

They do have a shot. About less than 10% on each of them.

Hold on here! Just because a reporter said it, doesn't make it a fact that Suter said it. It's hearsay. When you hear Suter say it, or it's reported in quotes, then it's a fact. That's part of the problem with today's media and social media.
- MJL

yes even Miller didn't quote Suter just that he heard from another player. That is hearsay and actually such statements are not admissible in court.

They do have a shot. About less than 10% on each of them.
- Flyers1218

Maybe you can quantify it, but I can't. And we have the same information available to us.

They do have a shot. About less than 10% on each of them.
- Flyers1218

Neither one of those guys is worth more than 7 mill a year and (good Lord) 10+ years.... good go to the penguins and frag their cap.... plz by all means.
- JoeRussomanno

I rather have voracek. Withdrawal all offers. Not worth it at this point

Hold on here! Just because a reporter said it, doesn't make it a fact that Suter said it. It's hearsay. When you hear Suter say it, or it's reported in quotes, then it's a fact. That's part of the problem with today's media and social media.
- MJL

That is true. I have never heard it. But where there is smoke, there is usually fire and it's pretty obvious that Suter wants to get paid in a city where he can stay relatively anonomous..

I rather have voracek. Withdrawal all offers. Not worth it at this point
- stveshdy

ExZackery!
Edit: if overpaying is the must do thing this year, then let's minimize the destruction and put it towards a player already here who's up and coming.

I rather have voracek. Withdrawal all offers. Not worth it at this point
- stveshdy

Me too.