PA is gone regardless of whether the proposed trade happens or not. Really, roster-wise, you're swapping Okposo for Ryan. The second line gets weaker either way...whether Okposo's moved in a trade, or whether he moves to the first line to replace PA there.
- UIF

not if Bailey goes there

XxNYIxX

PA is gone regardless of whether the proposed trade happens or not. Really, roster-wise, you're swapping Okposo for Ryan. The second line gets weaker either way...whether Okposo's moved in a trade, or whether he moves to the first line to replace PA there.
- UIF

but in this scenario we lose nino & a 1st rounder as well.


XxNYIxX

PA is gone regardless of whether the proposed trade happens or not. Really, roster-wise, you're swapping Okposo for Ryan. The second line gets weaker either way...whether Okposo's moved in a trade, or whether he moves to the first line to replace PA there.
- UIF

While I'd love to get Ryan I'd rather see an impact dman brought in especially if the Isles have to move some good young pieces. I'd be happy with some forwards with some grit like Prust to go with the impact dman.

not if Bailey goes there

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

He can just as easily go to the second line. Or maybe if a trade did happen Ryan ends up having better chemistry with whoever's on the second line and he goes there. PA shouldn't factor into our thinking at all is my point I guess. Whether a trade happens or not, he won't be here...unless he has a change of heart, in which case he will be here regardless of whether a trade happens or not.

While I'd love to get Ryan I'd rather see an impact dman brought in especially if the Isles have to move some good young pieces. I'd be happy with some forwards with some grit like Prust to go with the impact dman.
- ses111

Yeah, I mentioned earlier I'm not expecting a legit power forward to end up here...didn't even put it in my three things I'd like to see for next season. I'm just chiming in on the hypothetical proposal because I can't help but inject myself into every discussion

Yeah, I mentioned earlier I'm not expecting a legit power forward to end up here...didn't even put it in my three things I'd like to see for next season. I'm just chiming in on the hypothetical proposal because I can't help but inject myself into every discussion
- UIF

Inject away UIF I'm also not expecting the impact dman. I'd at least like to see some gritty forwards and dmen brought in. I'd like to see this team again with some toughness. I'm sure some of the forwards would love it and the goalies would love a tougher d.

Maybe one of the kids will teach DP how to get up from a save or to stop overplaying the puck?
- ses111

or how to fight

or how to fight
- Mike C

Not for nothing.. he has had 3 fights & has won 2 of them.

XxNYIxX

Find one person who said we need to spend to the cap ceiling, please. What we've said is to honor the spirit of the cap floor. Not a max payroll. Just a legit minimum one.
- UIF

Honor the spirit of the cap floor? What a load, the man was spending 45m on payroll before the league had a cap floor while teams in modern taxpayer funded buildings were spending less than 30m dollars on payroll. This talk only began when the cap starting going toward sixty million and every big contract became front-loaded.

Ted Leonsis gets a revenue sharing check from the NHL.

Go ahead and prove Wang has not spent to the cap, only the league/NHLPA knows the language of those contracts, what's clear is every top prospect is only allowed the same standard deal per the CBA.

As far as the other guys and their publicly-financed buildings, I don't know, maybe Wang should take a page out of their book and be as politically savvy as these other guys seem to be.
- UIF

Like the New Jersey Giants, Jets (who stopped having camp at Hofstra) and soon to be Brooklyn Nets? Yankee Stadium got it's renovation to keep them from becoming the New Jersey Yankees. Roosevelt Raceway closed, Hofstra stopped it's football program, any secondary team at or next to the Coliseum went out of business.

The Knicks in 1982 were headed to the Coliseum, the Rangers to New Jersey.

I'm sorry but Nassau County did not wish to be politically save long before Wang entered the picture or considers its teams a public trust, not now, not after four cups when Pickett tried.

Nassau's has one rule, be the only ones anywhere to have the tenant build us an arena, then he can pay us rent money and renovate it himself for the privilege while D'Amato and the same clowns all have their own interest for the HUB where a sports team does not make them a dime so they don't want that there unless they get paid.

That along with Kate (daddy on the payroll) Murray and PSL Jacobs after Gulotta, Mondello, D'Amato, Certilman and the people who have done everything in their power to force any New York Islander owner out with Ed (referendum to help my general fund for thirty years) Mangano.

This was after Nassau and Flyers owner Ed Snider (Smg) got their hands on managing the Pens facility and the Coliseum where Smg was getting all parking, concessions, eleven percent of Isles ticket revenue and forty percent of all advertising. Wang and Smg made a sublease before Suozzi left office where Wang (maybe Rechler) get's the privilege of paying them another 17m until 2014-15 to have some management of the Coliseum now while Wang gets his full Islander revenue.

Still Wang never pulled what Lemieux did as on paper owner in Pittsburgh selling off players with the same Smg deal, Wang kept spending.

That would also be the Smg lease Nassau was too cheap to condemn for any Islander owner despite countless threats. Wang came in and settled all the lawsuits.

Maybe if Dolan owned the Islanders, we'd have a new publicly-financed building too, since you've gone on and on about all the money he's able to get multiple times from the City for his building.
- UIF

Charles Dolan tried to buy the Islanders before he settled for Msg and signed a contract with Pickett, maybe dealing with Nassau politics made him find another team?

Dolan got nothing for Msg, it was a mistake Ed Koch made that was supposed to be temporary to keep the teams from relocating.

http://www.nytimes.com/20...o-foul-at-the-garden.html

Msg is renovating now because if they moved across the street they lose that tax exemption. NYC tried to take it back a few years ago before Bloomberg and Dolan kissed and made up over the West Side Stadium fight.

Honor the spirit of the cap floor? What a load, the man was spending 45m on payroll before the league had a cap floor while teams in modern taxpayer funded buildings were spending less than 30m dollars on payroll. This talk only began when the cap starting going toward sixty million and every big contract became front-loaded.

Ted Leonsis gets a revenue sharing check from the NHL.

Go ahead and prove Wang has not spent to the cap, only the league/NHLPA knows the language of those contracts, what's clear is every top prospect is only allowed the same standard deal per the CBA.



Like the New Jersey Giants, Jets (who stopped having camp at Hofstra) and soon to be Brooklyn Nets? Yankee Stadium got it's renovation to keep them from becoming the New Jersey Yankees. Roosevelt Raceway closed, Hofstra stopped it's football program, any secondary team at or next to the Coliseum went out of business.

The Knicks in 1982 were headed to the Coliseum, the Rangers to New Jersey.

I'm sorry but Nassau County did not wish to be politically save long before Wang entered the picture or considers its teams a public trust, not now, not after four cups when Pickett tried.

Nassau's has one rule, be the only ones anywhere to have the tenant build us an arena, then he can pay us rent money and renovate it himself for the privilege while D'Amato and the same clowns all have their own interest for the HUB where a sports team does not make them a dime so they don't want that there unless they get paid.

That along with Kate (daddy on the payroll) Murray and PSL Jacobs after Gulotta, Mondello, D'Amato, Certilman and the people who have done everything in their power to force any New York Islander owner out with Ed (referendum to help my general fund for thirty years) Mangano.

This was after Nassau and Flyers owner Ed Snider (Smg) got their hands on managing the Pens facility and the Coliseum where Smg was getting all parking, concessions, eleven percent of Isles ticket revenue and forty percent of all advertising. Wang and Smg made a sublease before Suozzi left office where Wang (maybe Rechler) get's the privilege of paying them another 17m until 2014-15 to have some management of the Coliseum now while Wang gets his full Islander revenue.

Still Wang never pulled what Lemieux did as on paper owner in Pittsburgh selling off players with the same Smg deal, Wang kept spending.

That would also be the Smg lease Nassau was too cheap to condemn for any Islander owner despite countless threats. Wang came in and settled all the lawsuits.



Charles Dolan tried to buy the Islanders before he settled for Msg and signed a contract with Pickett, maybe dealing with Nassau politics made him find another team?

Dolan got nothing for Msg, it was a mistake Ed Koch made that was supposed to be temporary to keep the teams from relocating.

http://www.nytimes.com/20...o-foul-at-the-garden.html

Msg is renovating now because if they moved across the street they lose that tax exemption. NYC tried to take it back a few years ago before Bloomberg and Dolan kissed and made up over the West Side Stadium fight.
- NYI

Thank you for writing us a novel about the Islanders I am sure it will be on the best selling list,. Please for the sake of your own well being GET A LIFE!!

Nice.. But you forgot (For Kasper) Press Conferences without socks!!! That one just rubbed him wrong for some reason.

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

i am still ticked about that. What professional athlete does that,. I mean come on. No socks and wearing sandals. I mean who does he think he is!!!

I was actually afraid he would break his toe with no socks and be out for 6 months

Please for the sake of your own well being GET A LIFE!!
- kasperrko

I am so proud that I have spread the DP hate. I dont know what to say.

All I know I would not let me kid be within 50 feet of this guy. My sone will proabbly get hurt just being around him.

Anyway I am proud

- kasperrko

Honor the spirit of the cap floor? What a load, the man was spending 45m on payroll before the league had a cap floor while teams in modern taxpayer funded buildings were spending less than 30m dollars on payroll. This talk only began when the cap starting going toward sixty million and every big contract became front-loaded.
- NYI

I don't care what he spent years ago. We've been over this before. No one has ever said that Wang has never spent on salary. People say since the Lighthouse Project failed, he has not spent, and will not spend until he gets some sort of certainty. You're the only person on planet Earth who feels this is not the case. Heck, he's the one going on the radio talking about all the money he's lost. He's made an issue of it.

Go ahead and prove Wang has not spent to the cap, only the league/NHLPA knows the language of those contracts, what's clear is every top prospect is only allowed the same standard deal per the CBA.
- NYI

Yes, all of the "actual salary" numbers out there, and all the info. reported by TSN on how the contracts break down, are lying...all part of some insidious plot to make it look like Charles Wang was spending only $39 million instead of up to the cap floor number. It's probably part of the vast Dolan/Bloomberg/media conspiracy you've enlightened us to over the weeks.

Most of the rest of that stuff just wanders into the same long, long list of excuses and finger-pointing. Poor Charles Wang, the naive angel in white forced to exist in a cruel, evil world.

Anyone else worried about niño?

I don't care what he spent years ago. We've been over this before. No one has ever said that Wang has never spent on salary. People say since the Lighthouse Project failed, he has not spent, and will not spend until he gets some sort of certainty. You're the only person on planet Earth who feels this is not the case. Heck, he's the one going on the radio talking about all the money he's lost. He's made an issue of it.
- UIF

Who are these people who say he has not spent since the Lighthouse project failed? Funny how Tavares got a longer contract than Matt Duchene and got it a year earlier to say nothing of the Ehrhoff offer, Okposo, Grabner, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen.

Again there is a reality here you simply refuse to acknowledge, we don't work for the Islanders but the players signed there seem to like being part of Charles Wang's franchise, even the players who could leave as free agents say how much they want to resign.

The guy they tolled and made come here kicking and screaming hated it so much he resigned early in an organization packed with goaltenders who could take his job and was thrilled to be here.

That to me says everything about the owner and gm.

Actually Wang said he's not whining about his losses and knew he would lose money while Vanderbeek got a nice taxpayer arena from Newark and cannot pay his bills. Wang was also laughing on the radio the day he said he regretted buying the team but most did not listen live to his interview.

Yes, all of the "actual salary" numbers out there, and all the info. reported by TSN on how the contracts break down, are lying...all part of some insidious plot to make it look like Charles Wang was spending only $39 million instead of up to the cap floor number. It's probably part of the vast Dolan/Bloomberg/media conspiracy you've enlightened us to over the weeks.
- UIF

I'm sorry facts make you act nasty because that's not my intention. Tsn has some details but not exact language of contracts in terms of bonus money beyond the set rules for top prospects. Fan sites in Canada do not have access to exact contract language on bonus money either.

Most of the rest of that stuff just wanders into the same long, long list of excuses and finger-pointing. Poor Charles Wang, the naive angel in white forced to exist in a cruel, evil world.
- UIF

The excuses are your own, you don't know or care.

Oh well, the Sharks are losing 15m a year per their owners:
http://www.bradenton.com/...offseason-of-urgency.html

Anyone else worried about niño?
- Danformo

Why? He is barely 20 yrs old. Let the kid develop. We all know he didn't belong in the NHL last year. He'll be fine.

Why? He is barely 20 yrs old. Let the kid develop. We all know he didn't belong in the NHL last year. He'll be fine.
- Vukota

One thing for sure Nino likes throwing his body around, he was second on the team in hits last year.

One thing for sure Nino likes throwing his body around, he was second on the team in hits last year.
- NYI

So he finished the year with ten hits? Impressive for this team.

So he finished the year with ten hits? Impressive for this team.
- mighty13duck

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...ort/hits/position/rookies

8th for NHL rookies with 129 in only 55 games.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/statistics/player/_/stat/defensive/sort/hits/position/rookies

8th for NHL rookies with 129 in only 55 games.
- NYI

Nice now in terms of points what was he ranked among rookies? The reality is if this guy can learn how to score and pass the puck he can be a powerful force. Only time will tell.

Nice now in terms of points what was he ranked among rookies? The reality is if this guy can learn how to score and pass the puck he can be a powerful force. Only time will tell.
- mighty13duck

Garth made him a promise GODDAMMIT

Nice now in terms of points what was he ranked among rookies? The reality is if this guy can learn how to score and pass the puck he can be a powerful force. Only time will tell.
- mighty13duck

He'll be fine. Just never was healthy at the same time with Reasoner or Pandolfo.

Some games he made good moves, created chances and just did not finish.

Anyone else worried about niño?
- Danformo

Naaaa. the kid will be ok


XxNYIxX

I hope he'll be good, between him and Nelson and kabanov, if they pan out to their projections, I think we will have a great team in3 years

Anyone else worried about niño?
- Danformo

I am worried about Nino's hands.. I brought this up after he played for a couple of months and got destroyed on these boards for it... (which is ironic b/c I am the koolaide guy..that when I do mention something negative I get abused for it too). yes Nino was only 18 and on a shtty line but I had seen him too many times with space and the puck.. and basically shot it directly into the goalie. If he is out there banging bodies that is a good thing b/c that is how he is going to have to score if his hands don't get better.. dirty goals. The reason he was playing and Dehaan and Donovan were not was b/c he was a forward and we had about 20 defenseman playing.