Dave Molinari ‏@MolinariPG
Have it on rock-solid authority that while Pgh. has received expressions of interest in D Paul Martin, he’s not being actively shopped now.

Dont think there isnt interest

Dave Molinari ‏@MolinariPG
Have it on rock-solid authority that while Pgh. has received expressions of interest in D Paul Martin, he’s not being actively shopped now.

Dont think there isnt interest
- Deadstar

i still think him being moved gives so much more flexibility

Am I the only one who thinks this is a sad commentary on the state of the game ? The best games that I have seen in recent years were those Pens/Caps regular season and playoff games from 3/4 years ago. Hell, the best thing in this year's playoffs were those crazy Pens/Flyers games.

Hunter's style achieved some degree of success in the playoffs but ultimately you get burned playing the "sit on the one-goal lead" style for periods at a time (at least you get burned when your team isn't really built to play that style). I'd like to see a hybrid of Boudreau/Hunter, someone who preaches defense but allows for a bit more creativity/aggressiveness offensively.
- MadCap2008

I think it was pretty obvious that mid-season this past year the NHL decided to "slow" the game down. People were complaining about shot blocking (how can you take that out the game anyway), but really interference is back big time and made for a largely dull post season. The NHL is going to have their hands full trying to decide whether they want the risk of the high speed game or the relatively boring product they gave us for this years playoffs. Somebody asked Ray Shero post playoff loss this year about whether his team was built for the current incarnation of the game, and to my surprise he did acknowledge the change in "style" but of course danced around the answer.

Team sources said Crosby soon will sign a new contract in the range of 10 to 13 years with an average annual salary of between $9 million and $10 million and will try to recruit Parise, his longtime friend, and Suter.


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- canadianpenfan

I'm not certain but I believe Shero said this morning on WDVE that theres no way he would trade anything to get the rights to those guys. Maybe he feels that Parise and Suter are already on board with playin for the Pens, or it could be the opposite. Did anybody else catch Shero on WDVE?

Despres just spent 1 year down on the farm and will be on the big club.
- Gunner Staal

*maybe*/doubtful and if so, he's logging 5/6 minutes.

I was sleeping for the past 4 days. What happened to the best third line in hockey?

I'm not certain but I believe Shero said this morning on WDVE that theres no way he would trade anything to get the rights to those guys. Maybe he feels that Parise and Suter are already on board with playin for the Pens, or it could be the opposite. Did anybody else catch Shero on WDVE?
- nateca44

well from what ive heard crosby and parise are really good friends and stuff, but also parise and suter are close as well, so its possible if one team signs parise, they have a good chance at suter if they have the space to do it

I don't think Despres and a 2nd gets Bobby Ryan. Despres is a good young player, but let's face it, Bobby Ryan is known quantity, Despres is not....at least not yet. I really don't believe we have the right pieces to get Bobby Ryan unless the Ducks have decided to do a partial re-build and they like some of our quality D prospects. The only other way we get him is in some sort of a 3 way deal.

I think if the Pens strike out on Parise, they'll def get Suter then use Despres as the chip for a wing if the right deal is there. I remember Dipoali saying earlier in the year, Morrow is untouchable by the way.
- madmike71

We have to stop thinking about Bobby Ryan coming to Pittsburgh. We don't have the pieces Anaheim would want. Sure Despres would be one going back, but we don't have a young talented forward that would interest Anaheim. We ain't trading Crosby; we ain't trading Malkin or Neal. We don't have any young proven forwards in our system. Kennedy has no value in a deal for Ryan.

People have to stop with the Martin, TK and a first or second type of ideas. That is the typical type of idea that is thrown out there by Edmonton or Toronto fans when trying to get a premier talent.

I was sleeping for the past 4 days. What happened to the best third line in hockey?
- Daman

Quit instigating or you'll be on vacation. I've given you alot of leeway over the last couple of weeks.

Same name. I rarely post because there's only a handful of rational posters......reminds me of some of EK's proposed trades and thoughts. The one thing I like about the group of posters on this site is you get a nice perspective from Pens fans around the country and Canada. Over on TIOPS, I feel like it's a bunch of yinzers at the local dive bar. Yeah, I saw that guy Kingpuck the other night during the draft.....seemed to have some legit insight.

If I'm looking for Pens roomers....I like Depaoli, you can tell he has a couple of good sources. You can sure tell he's not sitting behind a keyboard making sh*t up for maximum hits like someone else we know.
- madmike71

Yep, you're right. Can't argue with you about that....there are all kind of people on that forum...from froods, kingpuck and mwalluk to rothey and f'ing yoda.

It's nice to have another option because honestly, I don't trust 99% of the made up stuff EK throws at us.

We have to stop thinking about Bobby Ryan coming to Pittsburgh. We don't have the pieces Anaheim would want. Sure Despres would be one going back, but we don't have a young talented forward that would interest Anaheim. We ain't trading Crosby; we ain't trading Malkin or Neal. We don't have any young proven forwards in our system. Kennedy has no value in a deal for Ryan.

People have to stop with the Martin, TK and a first or second type of ideas. That is the typical type of idea that is thrown out there by Edmonton or Toronto fans when trying to get a premier talent.
- Oneonta Penguin

Please don't compare us with Toronto fans Oneonta

So in other words Komi/Kadri has the same value as Martin/Kennedy lol I'd rather keep our players

Dave Molinari ‏@MolinariPG
Have it on rock-solid authority that while Pgh. has received expressions of interest in D Paul Martin, he’s not being actively shopped now.

Dont think there isnt interest
- Deadstar

I think Shero has a conditional deal in place for Martin if he wins the lottery and lands Suter and Parise.

We have to stop thinking about Bobby Ryan coming to Pittsburgh. We don't have the pieces Anaheim would want. Sure Despres would be one going back, but we don't have a young talented forward that would interest Anaheim. We ain't trading Crosby; we ain't trading Malkin or Neal. We don't have any young proven forwards in our system. Kennedy has no value in a deal for Ryan.

People have to stop with the Martin, TK and a first or second type of ideas. That is the typical type of idea that is thrown out there by Edmonton or Toronto fans when trying to get a premier talent.
- Oneonta Penguin

You just can't go a day without slipping that in there somewhere can you?

Please don't compare us with Toronto fans Oneonta

So in other words Komi/Kadri has the same value as Martin/Kennedy lol I'd rather keep our players
- Orpik44

I can compare them to Toronto fans when I deem appropriate. Most of the ideas that I have seen for Ryan relative to the Pens are jokes. We don't have what Anaheim needs or little that would interest them since we ain't trading the obvious names.

Ek's new blog is about us. For. Sure.

Parise

I can compare them to Toronto fans when I deem appropriate. Most of the ideas that I have seen for Ryan relative to the Pens are jokes. We don't have what Anaheim needs or little that would interest them since we ain't trading the obvious names.
- Oneonta Penguin

They would probably inquire about Bennett since he is from that area. It would be a great opportunity for them to bring in the hometown boy if the Pens were to be interested in Ryan at some point.

Seeing Flyer fans get ticked off that the Pens got Ryan would be satisfaction enough if a trade were to happen.

They would probably inquire about Bennett since he is from that area. It would be a great opportunity for them to bring in the hometown boy if the Pens were to be interested in Ryan at some point.

Seeing Flyer fans get ticked off that the Pens got Ryan would be satisfaction enough if a trade were to happen.
- acdc1206

Bennett is raw. He has along way to go before he is productive in the league. Anaheim would want NHL ready types in return. I would laugh my ass off if Pittsburgh could land Ryan. That said we don't have the pieces. They, if you are talking about a combo of Coburn, Schenn or Couts - two of three, do.

They would probably inquire about Bennett since he is from that area. It would be a great opportunity for them to bring in the hometown boy if the Pens were to be interested in Ryan at some point.

Seeing Flyer fans get ticked off that the Pens got Ryan would be satisfaction enough if a trade were to happen.
- acdc1206

That would be awessome..Flyers fans would be pissed. What would be even better is if we signed Parise and they trade a bunch of assets for Nash..would make my day.

Ek's new blog is about us. For. Sure.
- canadianpenfan

Obviously.

Ek's new blog is about us. For. Sure.
- canadianpenfan

Without question it is. Funny, the homer is all fine with the Flyers doing the same thing with Nashville twice - Hartnell and Timonen once and then Hamhuis before they traded his rights to the Pens after they figure out he wasn't signing in Philly. If its Filly, its fine. If its the hated instate rival, its not allowed and people are upset looking for ramifications to happen. What a joke.

He wouldn't have used such terminology if it was the Flyers doing this. Then again, could it be Filly? Could they be afraid to lose both to the Pens enough to acquire them before?

Without question it is. Funny, the homer is all fine with the Flyers doing the same thing with Nashville twice - Hartnell and Timonen once and then Hamhuis before they traded his rights to the Pens after they figure out he wasn't signing in Philly. If its Filly, its fine. If its the hated instate rival, its not allowed and people are upset looking for ramifications to happen. What a joke.

He wouldn't have used such terminology if it was the Flyers doing this. Then again, could it be Filly? Could they be afraid to lose both to the Pens enough to acquire them before?
- Oneonta Penguin

Who cares what he thinks? If we want to trade picks for rights that's our business, every other team has the same ability.

More of a concern to me is why does RS feel he needs the extra time? Does he just not want them to see the other offers they're going to get becaue he knows he won't match? If it's a bidding war we won't beat the Wild. I would feel better if it was quiet honestly.

Without question it is. Funny, the homer is all fine with the Flyers doing the same thing with Nashville twice - Hartnell and Timonen once and then Hamhuis before they traded his rights to the Pens after they figure out he wasn't signing in Philly. If its Filly, its fine. If its the hated instate rival, its not allowed and people are upset looking for ramifications to happen. What a joke.

He wouldn't have used such terminology if it was the Flyers doing this. Then again, could it be Filly? Could they be afraid to lose both to the Pens enough to acquire them before?
- Oneonta Penguin

Bill ran down their Cap pretty thoroughly, don't know how they could possibly pull that off. The other team I was thinking of was the Islanders...

Bill ran down their Cap pretty thoroughly, don't know how they could possibly pull that off. The other team I was thinking of was the Islanders...
- canadianpenfan

There is no way Suter or Parise seriously considers the Islanders.

Who cares what he thinks? If we want to trade picks for rights that's our business, every other team has the same ability.

More of a concern to me is why does RS feel he needs the extra time? Does he just not want them to see the other offers they're going to get becaue he knows he won't match? If it's a bidding war we won't beat the Wild. I would feel better if it was quiet honestly.
- canadianpenfan

I think Ray is already talking to Parise. Obviously not with any direct contact with the player or agent, but you can bet Crosby has been in his ear. Ray has already made a general statement about his negotiations with Sid and his desire to leave some on the table to play with a great collection of talent. I don't believe those statements are meant to publicly praise Sid, but really meant for the FA's out there to let them know we may not give you absolute top dollar, but we'll put you in a group that will consistently challenge for the cup. Awesome building and atmosphere, Ownership treats them like royalty and fans that do the same. One things for sure, some of those other clubs out there with interest can't say they have this collection of talent. Minny is no where near ready to contend. I've heard Detroit mentioned too cause their cap space.....hate to say it, but that teams window is closing fast. Islanders have a couple of nice parts, but their building is horrible and the fan base has dwindled. I think they'd be the least likely option.

At this point in time, I think it's a waste of any pick for a few days of negotiations. If your an FA at this point, why not just wait until you hear what everyone has to offer?