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canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:00 PM ET
What's that guys you miss hearing the name hemsky ... ok....



You know what we should send martan and tk to Minn for hemsky .... then have hemsky sid parise or on aline

- nh4442




What in the hell is the english version of this?
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:03 PM ET
What's that guys you miss hearing the name hemsky ... ok....



You know what we should send martan and tk to Minn for hemsky .... then have hemsky sid parise or on aline

- nh4442



I really want to kick the crap out of you for mentioning that name. He plays in Edmonton, not Minnesota.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:03 PM ET
Rant that nobody will care about : how is there not a Caps blog for the draft and now the hiring of a head coach ? I know that there is little participation from Caps fans on this site, but the same can be said for some other teams who have bloggers that post at least fairly regularly.
- MadCap2008



Is Hindle not around at all or only writing Habs blogs?


edit- he hasn't written a blog for either team since mid may
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:03 PM ET
Why is that funny ? I like the hire, though of course you never know how guys are going to do until they are in the position. He was a great player, very intelligent. If he can translate that to the current players, it might be a great hire.
- MadCap2008


Nothing is wrong with it. He's probably the best bet. I was a bit suprised to see Dale Hunter not take advantage of the way they played late in the year and th playoffs. But I respect him for doing what he really loves, helping young players.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:05 PM ET
Go-to-guy. Parise is no Jagr. He already had to deal with the team he's captain of handing out a $100 million contract to someone like Kovalchuk instead of him. I think he'd be ok coming here if the money is close.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:05 PM ET
I really want to kick the crap out of you for mentioning that name. He plays in Edmonton, not Minnesota.
- Oneonta Penguin

not that i want hemsky, but the team does need to have some contingency plans other than parise or ryan (as im sure shero realizes) honestly, there really arent that many appealing options out there. id hate to finally have this cap space and then greatly overpay someone because they are the only thing available. like id rather take my ball and just go home than give pa parenteau a 5 million dollar deal
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:06 PM ET
I think Martin and tk for clutterbuck would be fair...

And if we r giving 4 rfas that are D qualifying offers where are we going to put them if we get suter?

Has anything been said in twitterverse ?

- nh4442


Interesting. We could use his physicality for sure. Don't know if Minny would take it. Unless they really wanna do this 'hometown collection agency' thing.
MadCap2008
Washington Capitals
Location: Brambleton, VA
Joined: 06.02.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:06 PM ET
Is Hindle not around at all or only writing Habs blogs?
- canadianpenfan


I think Hindle's last blog was when the Caps were eliminated by the Rags. He does a great job (and frankly it's pretty thankless given the low participation) -- would be ok with infrequent blogs, but you have to have one for the draft, major personnel moves (i.e. hiring a coach) and for free agency. Of course you guys might not have the honor of my presence as often
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:07 PM ET
I think that whole "go-to-guy" is nonsense. I mean, if it's that important to be "the" guy he'd better be prepared to lose.....a lot. Every team needs at least a handful of high talent guys to compete for cups. Also, being in NJ is as close as you can get to being "the guy". Other than Kovolchuk, what other front-line forward star do they have? Parise is a very good player, but if he insists on being the best player on the team, that sounds overly selfish and I wouldn't want him on my team anyway.

I really think it not about being "the guy", but more about playing in an exciting, high profile market. Maybe going home is big factor, but I got news for him, Minny ain't winning any time soon.

- madmike71


Here is the problem with the "I want to be the go-to guy" line of thinking ... look at the list of where he could be that guy. 95% of those teams are non play-off teams. Which is something I doubt he wants. Of the play-off teams, Phoenix, Nashville, St. Louis ... that is it.



s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:07 PM ET
I think he will be a great coach personally. He thinks the game better than most.
- canadianpenfan


Oates definetly has the knowledge to be a coach, but unless he has a pair of cast-iron balls like Hunter I'm not sure it will matter.

Hunter let it be known who was in charge of the team and it turns out it wasn't Ovechkin. He'd sit him for a full period of the game if he thought it was right; keep him on the bench in the last minute when the Caps needed a goal, and didn't apologize for in the slightest. I honestly think the Caps, as a team, never really respected Bruce Boudreau because OV never did. Oates can't let that happen to him if he wants to succeed.
MadCap2008
Washington Capitals
Location: Brambleton, VA
Joined: 06.02.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:07 PM ET
Nothing is wrong with it. He's probably the best bet. I was a bit suprised to see Dale Hunter not take advantage of the way they played late in the year and th playoffs. But I respect him for doing what he really loves, helping young players.
- HopintheCordoba


Yeah, can't fault Hunter - apparently a cash cow in London, and he never promised the Caps anything beyond this year.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:08 PM ET
This kid has more talent than Tangradi..
- Orpik44


Indeed he does...at least I think so. As I mentioned before Shero likes him alot.
We will se if he can make something happen out of camp. If he stays healthy he may have a shot.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:08 PM ET
I think Hindle's last blog was when the Caps were eliminated by the Rags. He does a great job (and frankly it's pretty thankless given the low participation) -- would be ok with infrequent blogs, but you have to have one for the draft, major personnel moves (i.e. hiring a coach) and for free agency. Of course you guys might not have the honor of my presence as often
- MadCap2008




Well then somebody should get on this Cap blog situation ASAP.
MadCap2008
Washington Capitals
Location: Brambleton, VA
Joined: 06.02.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:09 PM ET
Well then somebody should get on this Cap blog situation ASAP.
- canadianpenfan


Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:09 PM ET
not that i want hemsky, but the team does need to have some contingency plans other than parise or ryan (as im sure shero realizes) honestly, there really arent that many appealing options out there. id hate to finally have this cap space and then greatly overpay someone because they are the only thing available. like id rather take my ball and just go home than give pa parenteau a 5 million dollar deal
- stayinthefnnet


We don't have the goods to acquire Ryan. I honestly wouldn't even consider Hemsky at all. Fragile, non productive and a 5 million cap hit the next two years. Plus, Edmonton wants a first plus for that clown. He might be talented, but PASS ...
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:10 PM ET
Here is the problem with the "I want to be the go-to guy" line of thinking ... look at the list of where he could be that guy. 95% of those teams are non play-off teams. Which is something I doubt he wants. Of the play-off teams, Phoenix, Nashville, St. Louis ... that is it.
- Oneonta Penguin



If he's going somewhere for the money or to be the guy, it's Minnesota.

If he's going somewhere to win it's here or Detroit.

And you can't count out Lou finding a way to keep him.

I think it's between those 4 teams and I still think he ends up a Pen by this time next week.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
Oates definetly has the knowledge to be a coach, but unless he has a pair of cast-iron balls like Hunter I'm not sure it will matter.

Hunter let it be known who was in charge of the team and it turns out it wasn't Ovechkin. He'd sit him for a full period of the game if he thought it was right; keep him on the bench in the last minute when the Caps needed a goal, and didn't apologize for in the slightest. I honestly think the Caps, as a team, never really respected Bruce Boudreau because OV never did. Oates can't let that happen to him if he wants to succeed.

- s0rcerer1984



Yea I agree, the only downside I see to the hire is that Oates is just too nice. He needs to asert his dominance from day 1 and I think he'll be alright.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:13 PM ET
That's more than 3 Hemsky references on one page, as mod of this blog I'm going to have to ask this be stopped immediately.

Thanks everyone.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:14 PM ET
---@MikeColligan According to @anguscertified, #Canucks inquired on Jordan Staal, asking price from #Pens was Ryan Kesler straight up

Everyone, happy or sad with results after hearing this?

Although Kesler is good---I'm very happy with our haul. Just wondering
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:16 PM ET
---@MikeColligan According to @anguscertified, #Canucks inquired on Jordan Staal, asking price from #Pens was Ryan Kesler straight up

Everyone, happy or sad with results after hearing this?

- HopintheCordoba



Still happy. We would just have the same problem with a different player. Kesler isn't a 3rd line guy.

Plus he makes more than Staal.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 26 @ 1:18 PM ET
If he's going somewhere for the money or to be the guy, it's Minnesota.

If he's going somewhere to win it's here or Detroit.

And you can't count out Lou finding a way to keep him.

I think it's between those 4 teams and I still think he ends up a Pen by this time next week.

- canadianpenfan


I agree entirely, though as I wrote before, I think part of the equation is "high profile, hockey crazy" market. I'll also say that Detroit team is aging fast. Some great players there, but their window is closing. Not to mention the horrible state of the down town area......I know the players don't live there, but that's some of the worst blight I've ever seen in an American city.
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:18 PM ET
Yea I agree, the only downside I see to the hire is that Oates is just too nice. He needs to asert his dominance from day 1 and I think he'll be alright.
- canadianpenfan


You can be nice & still lay down the law. Oates just needs to be firm, yet fair. Babcock, Bylsma, Trotz, Ruff all seem like nice guys, but I don't think anyone would argue that they are push-overs because of it.

Its all about respect. You don't have to agree with every move if you are a player, but you damn well better respect that they are the one who makes those decisions.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
Still happy. We would just have the same problem with a different player. Kesler isn't a 3rd line guy.

Plus he makes more than Staal.

- canadianpenfan


Absolutely true. Add in the 8th overall pick and Dumoulin with Sutter and I can imagine Shero laughing and hanging up on Vancouver
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:23 PM ET
I agree entirely, though as I wrote before, I think part of the equation is "high profile, hockey crazy" market. I'll also say that Detroit team is aging fast. Some great players there, but their window is closing. Not to mention the horrible state of the down town area......I know the players don't live there, but that's some of the worst blight I've ever seen in an American city.
- madmike71



That's why I lean to us over Detroit. I just think "the guy" thing is overated. Hockey players want to win, Basketball players want to be "the guy". That's what makes the sport so much better.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
You can be nice & still lay down the law. Oates just needs to be firm, yet fair. Babcock, Bylsma, Trotz, Ruff all seem like nice guys, but I don't think anyone would argue that they are push-overs because of it.

Its all about respect. You don't have to agree with every move if you are a player, but you damn well better respect that they are the one who makes those decisions.

- s0rcerer1984



Uh oh, is madmike still here?



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