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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Planet of the Leafs, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:40 PM ET
I liked the Morgan O pick but c'mon Burkie with the crap of "We would have picked him first if we had that first pick"... No way no how. Stop feeding us BS. I used to think he was always a pretty truthful stand up guy.. But that sounds to me like garbage..I like Finn too.. After that the others probably won't see the light of day.. Move out a couple of D for whatever at this point... Make room for Holzer please
- Popcorn Kid


Yeah, that seems doubtful that they didn't have one of the russian forwards ranked higher. Then again (frank) I hope they are right! Please hockey gods let the expanded scouting staff of the last few years and Dudley running it before this draft have caused the Leafs to have a curveball brainwave that actually works lol...if in retrospect Reilly does look like at least the fifth best player it's a great pick
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:40 PM ET
The opportunity to trade isn't over yet.. we have all summer
- mfreedman


Exactly.....just gotta relax. The season isn't starting tomorrow. maybe not even in October.
Shteven
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 05.29.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:40 PM ET
It really is a frustrating time to be a Toronto sports fan. Raps, Jays, Leafs, every year we are going through the same thing. One can only hope things improve.
- Allstarzz


I know. It was this bad being a boston fan about 10 years ago. Now they've won every championship. New England was a joke. Celtics were a joke. Red Sox a joke. Bruins, not a joke but respectable.

Jays will be good if they want to spend money. The leafs will be good if they stay the course. And raps will be good if they stay the course
Allstarzz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.28.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:41 PM ET
Rielly = Gardiner+Doughty.
- Leafland

Reilly=Letang.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 23 @ 3:41 PM ET
I am so confused by what Burke's doing!

Rielly is talented, dont get me wrong, and Finn is a steal and one of my favourite players in this draft, period. But he completely ignored our biggest need and total suspect choices after Finn.

Toninato? That was off the board.
Brown? Where does he honestly see this kid going?
Loov? What does he see in him??

Rupert has the most upside of their last 4 picks. Look for Burke to give his twin, Matt, a tryout a long the way.

Overall, another disappointing draft by Burke.

- uncleben



AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:41 PM ET
I think Schenn is going to Philly. I just don't know what for yet...Maybe Simmonds?
- Allstarzz


Simmond's a 3rd liner
Bar-South
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.17.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:41 PM ET
This pick wont help us for a few years and wont be a top power play type player for at least 3 or 4 years so it wont matter, we can easily get a top line center via FA or trade by then...
Allstarzz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.28.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:41 PM ET
I know. It was this bad being a boston fan about 10 years ago. Now they've won every championship. New England was a joke. Celtics were a joke. Red Sox a joke. Bruins, not a joke but respectable.

Jays will be good if they want to spend money. The leafs will be good if they stay the course. And raps will be good if they stay the course

- Shteven

Jays don't spend though.
Allstarzz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.28.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:42 PM ET
Simmond's a 3rd liner
- AngryWhiteMale

He had over 25 goals...
Shteven
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 05.29.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:43 PM ET
Exactly.....just gotta relax. The season isn't starting tomorrow. maybe not even in October.
- Phenom


I'm just curious what could be done that would make people happy? Luongo? They will complain he has a terrible contract? Staal..... we would have had to give up kulemin 5th overall and schenn (at the very least), for a guy that doesnt' want to be here. The key is he only wanted to sign with car.

nash.... price too high to obtain.
Ryan doesn't get along with carlisle.


Shteven
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 05.29.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:44 PM ET
Jays don't spend though.
- Allstarzz



Revenues up. Interest up. Now's the test.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:44 PM ET
It really is a frustrating time to be a Toronto sports fan. Raps, Jays, Leafs, every year we are going through the same thing. One can only hope things improve.
- Allstarzz

Quit crying.
Shteven
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 05.29.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:44 PM ET
He had over 25 goals...
- Allstarzz


Still a third liner. I dont like giving up on schenn until you have 1 season of playing him in a defensive environment.
Allstarzz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.28.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:45 PM ET
I'm just curious what could be done that would make people happy? Luongo? They will complain he has a terrible contract? Staal..... we would have had to give up kulemin 5th overall and schenn (at the very least), for a guy that doesnt' want to be here. The key is he only wanted to sign with car.

nash.... price too high to obtain.
Ryan doesn't get along with carlisle.

- Shteven

Getzlaf?
Allstarzz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.28.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:45 PM ET
Quit crying.
- Leafland

Frustrated.
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:46 PM ET
He had over 25 goals...
- Allstarzz


His production was more or less on par with Macarthur's. and I don't consider Mac a 2nd liner. They're both third liners.

Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:47 PM ET
His production was more or less on par with Macarthur's. and I don't consider Mac a 2nd liner. They're both third liners.
- AngryWhiteMale

Ill take Simmonds over Mac.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:48 PM ET
I'm just curious what could be done that would make people happy? Luongo? They will complain he has a terrible contract? Staal..... we would have had to give up kulemin 5th overall and schenn (at the very least), for a guy that doesnt' want to be here. The key is he only wanted to sign with car.

nash.... price too high to obtain.
Ryan doesn't get along with carlisle.

- Shteven


Doesn't matter. Leaf nation is so widespread, there will always be debate on any move the team makes. To be the GM of the TML has got to be the toughest executive position in sports. Half the fanbase will either love or hate every move he makes. You see it first hand right here and that's just the tip of the Leaf Nation iceberg. Some of us want Luongo, some of us are vehemently against it and others are unsure. Nash, same thing. Just gotta be patient, see how things unfold, let the guy do his job and wait to see if we get better. As fans, there's really nothing else we can do......just hope for the best.
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:48 PM ET
Still a third liner. I dont like giving up on schenn until you have 1 season of playing him in a defensive environment.
- Shteven


So far seasons 1 & 3 were good enough to druel over. We've seen how good Schenn can and should be.

seasons 2 & 4 were bad. Sophomore slump on one hand and the expectations of a new contract on the other. I think his fitness will need to be worked on, and yes, a chance to get comfortable with Carlyle's system means he should stay unless we get blown away with an offer

Plus having to deal with both Schenn's on the same team in the east would be suicide, even if they're not in the same division as the Leafs
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Planet of the Leafs, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:48 PM ET
Jays don't spend though.
- Allstarzz


baseball team payrolls are so out of whack I haven't even considered mlb an actual competitive league for years and years. How can you have some teams spending more in luxury tax than other teams' payrolls and call it a fair sports competition? I like baseball but it's sad that at the highest level of the sport there's not a competitive league.
Shteven
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 05.29.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:48 PM ET
Getzlaf?
- Allstarzz


He of 10 goals? I know he's great and a great upgrade. I just don't think any of the anaheim guys want to play for carlisle.

But who does he play with? You think him and kessel mesh? I think stastny is the best guy to get. although leafs were 10th in scoring. 29th in goals against. What do we need to work on?
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:49 PM ET
Ill take Simmonds over Mac.
- Leafland


Mac's listed as an inch shorter than Simmonds, but 15 lbs heavier.

Shteven
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 05.29.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:50 PM ET
Doesn't matter. Leaf nation is so widespread, there will always be debate on any move the team makes. To be the GM of the TML has got to be the toughest executive position in sports. Half the fanbase will either love or hate every move he makes. You see it first hand right here and that's just the tip of the Leaf Nation iceberg. Some of us want Luongo, some of us are vehemently against it and others are unsure. Nash, same thing. Just gotta be patient, see how things unfold, let the guy do his job and wait to see if we get better. As fans, there's really nothing else we can do......just hope for the best.
- Phenom


I agree. gotta hope for the best. On luongo i hated it until i found out that he doesn't have a nmc. He can be buried at anytime. You bury him when he's making 3 mil 4 years from now, i'm sure he retires.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:50 PM ET
Grand slam.
Shteven
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 05.29.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:51 PM ET
So far seasons 1 & 3 were good enough to druel over. We've seen how good Schenn can and should be.

seasons 2 & 4 were bad. Sophomore slump on one hand and the expectations of a new contract on the other. I think his fitness will need to be worked on, and yes, a chance to get comfortable with Carlyle's system means he should stay unless we get blown away with an offer

Plus having to deal with both Schenn's on the same team in the east would be suicide, even if they're not in the same division as the Leafs

- AngryWhiteMale


Call me crazy, but i read a theory a long time ago that the problem with schenn last year was we had a quick team, and he's not quick. Too many gaps had him over committing to be aggressive.
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