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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:58 AM ET
Pronger....

By the way- these analysts are REALLY enlightening me regarding everything associated with Prongs. His leadership and how he makes everyone on the ice better.....

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:58 AM ET
I'd rather they not talk about my team.... just saying
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:58 AM ET
I'd rather they not talk about my team.... just saying
- JoeRussomanno

Yup. These guys are fools.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:00 PM ET

Now there's a moment in time!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:02 PM ET
Yup. These guys are fools.
- Giroux_Is_God

That segment will be aired around happy hour and an influx of eagles fans will be logging on.
LW2530
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone have some change?, FL
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:03 PM ET
Unfortunately, it is a divorce that has to happen. There is no way Howson can't expect Nash to return to the team again. I understand that Howson would want to get players back that Columbus has control over for at least a couple of years. However, his bargaining position is compromised because of Nash's cap hit.
- ravishingone



Howson could call a press conference and call his bluff. State that there is no interest in Nash during the last 6 months for anything remotely of fair value, and that the Jackets will proceed and plan on Nash playing in Columbus come opening night. If/when Nash expands his list to every team in NHL, we will double down our efforts to accommodate a trade.

How bad does Nash not want to suit up in Columbus? I think Nash blinks first.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 23 @ 12:06 PM ET
Howson could call a press conference and call his bluff. State that there is no interest in Nash during the last 6 months for anything remotely of fair value, and that the Jackets will proceed and plan on Nash playing in Columbus come opening night. If/when Nash expands his list to every team in NHL, we will double down our efforts to accommodate a trade.

How bad does Nash not want to suit up in Columbus? I think Nash blinks first.

- LW2530


That's what I don't get. If he REALLY wants to go, he can't just give a list of 2-3 teams and say "That's it".
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:16 PM ET
Howson could call a press conference and call his bluff. State that there is no interest in Nash during the last 6 months for anything remotely of fair value, and that the Jackets will proceed and plan on Nash playing in Columbus come opening night. If/when Nash expands his list to every team in NHL, we will double down our efforts to accommodate a trade.

How bad does Nash not want to suit up in Columbus? I think Nash blinks first.

- LW2530


I tend to agree. Howson has to do what's best for his team. And if that means Nash is still a Blue Jacket come opening night, so be it. What's Nash going to do, hold out and forfeit that check?
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jun 23 @ 12:16 PM ET
It's a well known fact that the Flyers draft the best player available, not by position of need. And I'm glad you have a crystal ball to see what their position of needs are 2-3 years down the road.

If you want to go with the consensus of what everyone on this site thinks, versus what the Flyers professional Hockey people think, then that's your choice.

A lot of analysts had Lidstrom rated where? Had Datsyuk rated where? Is what the analysts say definitive about a player? And what makes what the analysts say worth more then what the Flyers think?

- MJL


Hmm, so you are now comparing the the Red Wings drafting against the Flyers. Frankly, that is the approach I would like to see the Flyers do. I'd rather see them reach for European players in the mid to later rounds than pick the Klotz's and Mathers of the world.

I'm sorry, but look at the Flyers record after the first round and it is pretty weak.
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jun 23 @ 12:16 PM ET
Hyka to LA
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:21 PM ET
Hmm, so you are now comparing the the Red Wings drafting against the Flyers. Frankly, that is the approach I would like to see the Flyers do. I'd rather see them reach for European players in the mid to later rounds than pick the Klotz's and Mathers of the world.

I'm sorry, but look at the Flyers record after the first round and it is pretty weak.

- TheGreat28


Hmm, no I'm not comparing the Red Wings drafting against the Flyers. The point is that analysts don't get everything right, just as GM's don't. So what the analysts think of a player, doesn't mean squat!

I'd like to see the Flyers draft who they think is the right pick, and not choose a player based on his Country of origin.

And as I said previously, compare the Flyers record after the First Round with the rest of the League. And then you'll know if it is weak or not.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 12:21 PM ET


gonna be a BEAST

- FlyerMike18


Bwhahahahahahahahaha
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:21 PM ET
Hyka to LA
- Duran76


So Hyka came back to the Flyers after all.

Well sorta.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:23 PM ET
Yandle vs. Suter is very interesting to me. One you have to give up cost, the other you sign but could be more pricy. My answer is simple. Yandle has experience in front of bryz.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 12:23 PM ET
Hyka to LA
- Duran76


Hilarious that the Kings took him with the 6th round pick they acquired from the Flyers.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
So Hyka came back to the Flyers after all.

Well sorta.

- 77rams



Travis Hughes ‏@BroadStHockey
Kings take Tomas Hyka at 171 ... with a pick acquired via the Flyers.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 12:26 PM ET
Yandle vs. Suter is very interesting to me. One you have to give up cost, the other you sign but could be more pricy. My answer is simple. Yandle has experience in front of bryz.
- Schenn2shine


Hopefully the Penguins overpay for Suter, while the Flyers sign Carle on the cheap. Shero will be played the fool once again, afterall everyone who states Suter isn't worth the money clearly knows something Shero and the other NHL GM's don't know.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:26 PM ET


gonna be a BEAST

- FlyerMike18



Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:27 PM ET
What happened to Eklund? Is he hungover, or are there no rumors?

Myself, I havent been hungover in years. Maybe something to shoot for.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:29 PM ET
I tend to agree. Howson has to do what's best for his team. And if that means Nash is still a Blue Jacket come opening night, so be it. What's Nash going to do, hold out and forfeit that check?
- MJL


You are correct Howson has to do what is best for his team. However, I don't expect Nash to just be the good soldier and just come back this year. So yes, I think it is possible for him to hold out. I don't think it is unreasonable for a multi-millionare (assuming he has managed his money properly) to at least in the short-term sacrifice potential earnings which he will still get if and when he resumes playing because of the contract he signed.



ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:30 PM ET
Travis Hughes ‏@BroadStHockey
Kings take Tomas Hyka at 171 ... with a pick acquired via the Flyers.

- Tomahawk


Isn't that the pick the Kings got for taking Legein off the Flyers hands?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:30 PM ET
You are correct Howson has to do what is best for his team. However, I don't expect Nash to just be the good soldier and just come back this year. So yes, I think it is possible for him to hold out. I don't think it is unreasonable for a multi-millionare (assuming he has managed his money properly) to at least in the short-term sacrifice potential earnings which he will still get if and when he resumes playing because of the contract he signed.
- ravishingone


The odds of him holding out are very slim. That doesn't serve any purpose. For him or the team.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:31 PM ET
Hopefully the Penguins overpay for Suter, while the Flyers sign Carle on the cheap. Shero will be played the fool once again, afterall everyone who states Suter isn't worth the money clearly knows something Shero and the other NHL GM's don't know.
- PLindbergh31


Truth is the Penguins were gifted 4 top players. They drafted a couple good players, but they sucked so badly they had a lot of good opportunities.

The tide is turning. Crosby is an egg. Malkin may be better suited for a San Fran lifestyle. Neal and Letang are good but F the rest of the circus clowns in Pitt.

It is Philly and NY that is built for the future. The rest is just conversation.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 23 @ 12:32 PM ET
Hopefully the Penguins overpay for Suter, while the Flyers sign Carle on the cheap. Shero will be played the fool once again, afterall everyone who states Suter isn't worth the money clearly knows something Shero and the other NHL GM's don't know.
- PLindbergh31


Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:34 PM ET

- Don'tForgetTocchet


I'm sure the high school photos of all our posters would look like the current Eagles roster.
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