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USA_Parise9
Joined: 04.26.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:49 PM ET
Isn't what Parise wants fairly clear?
As in a big, giant contract.

- kingcong39

NJ has been a winning team for almost 3 decades. The Devils fans have only seen a champion team.

The fans basically dont know how to lose. All they know is signing FAs and keep their draftees. Times are changing for the Devils. Got to lose at some point (3-4 years not making the playoffs doesnt count). Try rooting for a team that loses for 20 years.

Cant always get what you want fans of NJ.Meaning cant always have a championsp caliber team forever.
mike719
Joined: 04.22.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:49 PM ET
so, i'm a sabres fan. i'm curious what other team fans think ryan miller is really worth on the trade market, taking into account the bob and lindback trades?

i am lukewarm on miller, what do you think buffalo could actually get in return for him?
KABLOOEY
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
i still say 80% he remains a devil
- dmarsden2988

mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
PHI: Schenn + JVR + 45th (CLB)<-> ANA: Ryan + 6th
BlowMonkey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.14.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
isn't it pretty clear by now that eklund is just trolling about parise to get hits. hilarious how people dismiss other rumours of his but agree with the parise one because they want parise and are hoping its true
- BDizzlez


Dude of course we all want him....be puts fans in the seats.

Gusto
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Land of Ice and snow,From , ON
Joined: 07.07.2009

Jun 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
If Ryan Murray goes #1 do you think that Columbus takes a chance on another Russian? I really hope Nail doesn't end up a Hab...
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
i still say 80% he remains a devil
- dmarsden2988


You forgot to add in your unbiased opinion.
USA_Parise9
Joined: 04.26.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
so, i'm a sabres fan. i'm curious what other team fans think ryan miller is really worth on the trade market, taking into account the bob and lindback trades?

i am lukewarm on miller, what do you think buffalo could actually get in return for him?

- mike719

Luongo > Miller

Whatever Luongo gets Miller gets less
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
Dale the Wombat ‏@wombathockey
Brian Burke is considering trades for a few centers. He's inquired about Statsny, Getzlaf, and Krejci.

Dale the Wombat ‏@wombathockey
@MapleLeafs and Luongo is close. I'm not convinced it gets done this weekend, but the sides are getting closer to a deal.
104shutout30
New Jersey Devils
Location: Holbrook, NY
Joined: 07.11.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
Parise to me is still the man in NJ as the leader, regardless of Kovy and his contract. Parise is still a better overall two way player minus the hard shot, and Parise's leadership will forever be leaps and bounds greater than kovy's.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:52 PM ET

- KABLOOEY


"Telegram".
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:52 PM ET
so, i'm a sabres fan. i'm curious what other team fans think ryan miller is really worth on the trade market, taking into account the bob and lindback trades?

i am lukewarm on miller, what do you think buffalo could actually get in return for him?

- mike719

If im the oilers I would send 31st pick, Dubnyk and maybe next years 2nd rounder. Probably a low ball tho. Millers getting older now
mike719
Joined: 04.22.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:52 PM ET
Luongo > Miller

Whatever Luongo gets Miller gets less

- USA_Parise9


the only reason i would argue that is because of the contracts. luongo is > goalie than miller but his contract is scary to any GM. i bet they could get very similar return in the trade market, perhaps a little more for miller because his contract is a lot better.

true? untrue?
USA_Parise9
Joined: 04.26.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
Parise to me is still the man in NJ as the leader, regardless of Kovy and his contract. Parise is still a better overall two way player minus the hard shot, and Parise's leadership will forever be leaps and bounds greater than kovy's.
- 104shutout30

Thats what happens when a team has 2 owners.....Both dont always agree.

One owner thought Kovi was the man.
mike719
Joined: 04.22.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
If im the oilers I would send 31st pick, Dubnyk and maybe next years 2nd rounder. Probably a low ball tho. Millers getting older now
- Oilfan19


yikes, that's lower than i would've expected (trying my best at being unbiased) but i think he could get more. i know for sure darcy would never pull the trigger on that offer.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
what about convincing parise to sign in buffalo? he is, after all, best friends with drew stafford.

staal could probably be convinced to stay too, i would just be nervous they give up too much and have him leave after this season. but if carolina thinks/believes that they can get staal guaranteed next july, why would they trade for him now? so that makes me think he is not going to go for a huge return because teams are nervous about him only being a rental.

thoughts?

- mike719


esp wrt Buffalo. CAR needs to grab Staal now...otherwise they risk Staal having a great year with Vanek+Pomminville, and a huge Pegula-like offer of 5 years at 35-40 million (7-8/year). Would be VERY tough for Staal to turn that down...CAR has no guarantee that he will want to be in CAR *no matter what*....everybody has their price and Pegula could find Staal's...
KABLOOEY
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:55 PM ET
"Telegram".
- Marwood

Dude! How goes it?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 22 @ 2:55 PM ET
With Parise it is not as much about money as it is about being "the man" on the team he goes to...

We hear this somewhat often, but the latter begets the former.
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
esp wrt Buffalo. CAR needs to grab Staal now...otherwise they risk Staal having a great year with Vanek+Pomminville, and a huge Pegula-like offer of 5 years at 35-40 million (7-8/year). Would be VERY tough for Staal to turn that down...CAR has no guarantee that he will want to be in CAR *no matter what*....everybody has their price and Pegula could find Staal's...
- mventres



One would hope.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
yikes, that's lower than i would've expected (trying my best at being unbiased) but i think he could get more. i know for sure darcy would never pull the trigger on that offer.
- mike719

No doubt he could get more. But im saying this in the position of the oilers. The #1 this year and 1st rounder next year are just out of the question. maybe instead of the 2nd next year a prospect or 2.
mike719
Joined: 04.22.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
esp wrt Buffalo. CAR needs to grab Staal now...otherwise they risk Staal having a great year with Vanek+Pomminville, and a huge Pegula-like offer of 5 years at 35-40 million (7-8/year). Would be VERY tough for Staal to turn that down...CAR has no guarantee that he will want to be in CAR *no matter what*....everybody has their price and Pegula could find Staal's...
- mventres


while playing with his bro probably sounds very appealing to him, he must know he would be the #2 center in carolina. in buffalo he'd be our first center, hands down. so i think buffalo has an edge in that regard.... (hopefully)
coach
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 22 @ 2:57 PM ET
28th!

i'm predicting right now, BB and the leafs (frank) up huge the next 2 wks, starting tonight!

....draft party!

- coach


*Hearing Columbus was in on Luongo, but found he was going to Toronto so traded for Bobrovsky.

here we go...(frank) UP #1...
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:57 PM ET
Dude! How goes it?
- KABLOOEY

Good, man. Yourself?

I haven't heard of telegrams since being at weddings in the early '90's. And, of course, I always remember that silly SNL sketch about a shark doing telegrams.

Any visits to the island this summer? Maybe a pint at the Bowser legion?
JDJ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: "…it's no 'Free Agent Frenzy
Joined: 07.25.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:58 PM ET
If Ryan Murray goes #1 do you think that Columbus takes a chance on another Russian? I really hope Nail doesn't end up a Hab...
- Gusto


I think if the Oilers don't take Yakupov, the Jackets are likely to trade the #2 to someone else (Players + Low 1st round pick), who will pick Yakupov.

Likely target would be Toronto, Ana, Minny or Carolina so they can still get a quality pick.

The Odds of the Oilers and Blue Jackets letting Yakupov both slip past are so small.

But here is hoping it happens!
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 22 @ 3:00 PM ET
while playing with his bro probably sounds very appealing to him, he must know he would be the #2 center in carolina. in buffalo he'd be our first center, hands down. so i think buffalo has an edge in that regard.... (hopefully)
- mike719



And like I said earlier, I don't think playing with his brother is as important as it could be if they actually were playing on the same line.
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