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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:50 PM ET
A wolf in sheeps clothing
- Cptmjl


If the Isles can trade for Weber or Ryan you'll see how fast I'll turn into a sheep.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:54 PM ET
From what I've read he doesn't use his body, Wishart part two
- Cptmjl



wow....you seriously are never happy.

i read comparisons to chris pronger...id be ok with that- you?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:54 PM ET
According to an IPB poster per NHL LIVE show, the Isles offered ‘most of their picks’ to Columbus but were declined? the Isles wanted Murray.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:56 PM ET
I think it could be a double sword... I think he was traded for so he could help the team and or the cap. IF we make a trade at some point for Tim Thomas.. then THIS (visnovsky) was nothing more then a cap maneuver.

IF they trade for TT & Vis doesn't show.. thats 10 million to the cap.. without having to pay a cent of it. I dont like it.. but ya gotta admit its pretty smart.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

I don't know if that's the right terminology? I think Thomas would be blatently obvious more so than Visnovsky. If this guy doesn't report it seems pretty blatant to me. You don't trade a second round pick for someone who isn't sure if he's going to play in the NHL this coming season. It's kind of ridiculous. We are rebuilding and that is a waste of a valuable asset. Smart is not the right word. It's troubling that we are supposed to be making some kind of progress and I just don't see it? Stuff like this is ridiculous and makes the team look as such to us and everyone else. I know it's not confirmed and I'll see how it plays out but if you are going to spend money spend it on someone who can help your buisness investment succeed. Smart is not the right word. On that note I'm going to bed, good night all.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:57 PM ET
wow....you seriously are never happy.

i read comparisons to chris pronger...id be ok with that- you?

- LetsGoIsles

I'm very happy and would be OK with that too, didn't read those comparisons?
ISLES1119
New York Islanders
Location: LONG ISLAND!!!!, NY
Joined: 10.14.2010

Jun 23 @ 10:57 PM ET
Why don't nabakov try to convince visnyosky to remain with islanders?
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:57 PM ET
You scared me X. I may be Wolfpack but I do have a sensitive side.
- ses111




XxNYIxX
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:58 PM ET
Why don't nabakov try to convince visnyosky to remain with islanders?
- ISLES1119

Read the last page and you will find your answer.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:59 PM ET
He has been saying this for weeks... nice call


XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



thank you
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:59 PM ET
wow....you seriously are never happy.

i read comparisons to chris pronger...id be ok with that- you?

- LetsGoIsles

Awesome! You made it just in time for your 11:00 curfew!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:00 PM ET
thank you
- LetsGoIsles

Reinhart didn't seem to share your excitement on the pick...
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:05 PM ET
Why don't nabakov try to convince visnyosky to remain with islanders?
- ISLES1119


He may very well try, But Vis hasnt left yet... he hasnt done anything yet.
As of now, he'll be in camp.

XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:12 PM ET
I don't know if that's the right terminology? I think Thomas would be blatently obvious more so than Visnovsky. If this guy doesn't report it seems pretty blatant to me. You don't trade a second round pick for someone who isn't sure if he's going to play in the NHL this coming season. It's kind of ridiculous. We are rebuilding and that is a waste of a valuable asset. Smart is not the right word. It's troubling that we are supposed to be making some kind of progress and I just don't see it? Stuff like this is ridiculous and makes the team look as such to us and everyone else. I know it's not confirmed and I'll see how it plays out but if you are going to spend money spend it on someone who can help your buisness investment succeed. Smart is not the right word. On that note I'm going to bed, good night all.
- Cptmjl



I dont want to get into a pissing match on this one,... But if you are going to fill your team with inexpensive talented players & young inexpensive players.. while losing money on the team.... finding a way to cut 10 million from the amount someone else tells you.. you HAVE to spend.. is very smart. No matter how you feel about it... you have to see the smart business logic of it.

XxNYIxX
BringBackBalky
New York Islanders
Location: Island Park, NY
Joined: 06.23.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:12 PM ET
I think it could be a double sword... I think he was traded for so he could help the team and or the cap. IF we make a trade at some point for Tim Thomas.. then THIS (visnovsky) was nothing more then a cap maneuver.

IF they trade for TT & Vis doesn't show.. thats 10 million to the cap.. without having to pay a cent of it. I dont like it.. but ya gotta admit its pretty smart.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


I disagree that it's smart. Especially the position that he's put the franchise in as of late. A move like this is just going to pull more fans away from the circus that's in town. And Wang won't spend anymore than the cap # even though he's not actually "spending" that money. It's ridiculous and IMO circumvents the integrity of the salary cap purpose as much as the Devils did with Kovalchuk. I hope they fix it somehow in the next CBA.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:19 PM ET
http://www.islanderspoint...y-going-to-stay-in-europe

have you guys seen this yet?

*im not gonna go through pages to see if its been talked about
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 11:20 PM ET
I disagree that it's smart. Especially the position that he's put the franchise in as of late. A move like this is just going to pull more fans away from the circus that's in town. And Wang won't spend anymore than the cap # even though he's not actually "spending" that money. It's ridiculous and IMO circumvents the integrity of the salary cap purpose as much as the Devils did with Kovalchuk. I hope they fix it somehow in the next CBA.
- BringBackBalky


Great Balky you are taking all of Wang's tricks away. How dare you expect him to run his team like a real owner?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 11:22 PM ET
http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2012/06/is-newly-acquired-lubomir-visnovsky-going-to-stay-in-europe/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=is-newly-acquired-lubomir-visnovsky-going-to-stay-in-europe

have you guys seen this yet?

*im not gonna go through pages to see if its been talked about

- dmarsden2988


Sadly we did. We've all seen this movie before.
BringBackBalky
New York Islanders
Location: Island Park, NY
Joined: 06.23.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:22 PM ET
Great Balky you are taking all of Wang's tricks away. How dare you expect him to run his team like a real owner?
- ses111


The problem with ole Wanger is that people are paying more attention to crap moves like this than they used to.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:28 PM ET
Sadly we did. We've all seen this movie before.
- ses111


i thought it was a great trade for you guys, hopefully he decides to play for you guys
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 11:28 PM ET
The problem with ole Wanger is that people are paying more attention to crap moves like this than they used to.
- BringBackBalky


It would be nice for Gary to step in and stop them. Better yet take the team from Wang that will fix the problem.
The Iceman
New York Islanders
Location: Las Vegas , NV
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:28 PM ET
DP will get another chance this season to fix that view.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX
Yeah another chance to further embarrass himself, push that g.a.a to 4.00 and that save percentage to 870. Maybe even a chance to blow both his knees out.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 11:31 PM ET
i thought it was a great trade for you guys, hopefully he decides to play for you guys
- dmarsden2988


Thanks. Snow making a great trade should have been the tip off.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:34 PM ET
Yeah another chance to further embarrass himself, push that g.a.a to 4.00 and that save percentage to 870. Maybe even a chance to blow both his knees out.
- The Iceman



As long as he gets the W.. thats all that matters!!


ask Mick

XxNYIxX

SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:37 PM ET
You cannot say it's a good draft yet X. Hopefully it is. You are really not surprised they drafted 7 dmen? Zharkov may have been worth a shot and I though the Isles were in a long rebuild so no need to replace PA for next year.
- ses111




Right now I'm not sure if picking 7 "D" men was a smart move or a dumb one. It depends on whether we chose the correct "D" men. And It depends on who was still on the board after we made each of our picks. I think we may have come up short in both cases.

By no means was Reinhart the Best available "D" man at #4. Nore was he the BAP at #4. But he was ranked #10 by Central Scotting and ISS so it wasnt a big reach.

So I can live with the pick. Provided nothing strange transpires.

He should turn out to be a good "D" man for many years.

Truthfully I really lost interest in this draft after about the 15th pick.

At that point I kind of figured the Isles were going to remain Pat and draft a bunch of undersized Europeans or obscure HS players. I'm pleasantly surprised that did not happen.

Although I am disappointed in our 2nd rd pick, I like the 3rd and a couple of the later picks.

The one move we made. I never heard of the guy. And thats my fault but for a 2013 2nd rd pick. I want someone who's a bit younger and I want someone who will actually Play for the Islanders.

It's funny though. All yr long and especially during the past few weeks. Everyone said we need a Vet "D" man. A #1 ,#2 or at least a #3. And everyone said. NOT AN AGING VET. But what do we get with our #2 pick in 2013. An aging vet. And the Crowd goes wild!!!!! Well at least some of you were dancing in the streets. I'll hold my opinion on this guy when (IF) I see him play. Conspicuously looks like little more than a means to reach the floor. What ever that floor may be.



SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:37 PM ET
Even though a few of the prospects from my wish list were picked up by the Isles.

There was something anti climatic about this draft.

I have a feeling that Free Agency will follow suit. No No. I'm sure UFA will follow suit as will any other trades we attempt to make this off season.


Isle's will go with Hamonic, AMac, Striet, Reese, then Donovan, DeHaan or Ness to open the season. Provided that schmuck from Anaheim doesnt report.

We'll hear and see all the same old stuff over the summer and during training camp.

In the end.

Same old same old.

If the underachievers finally achieve. We'll make some head wind. If they fall on their face like they usually do. Its a top 5 pick again next yr.

Criticize me if you like but Islander history is on my side. And as of today. I didnt see anything that happened yesterday to change my mind.

Not Yet anyway. And Not for this season.

Its to early to call it a good draft for the Isles. Come back in 3 or 4 yrs.

Thanks and Goodnight.

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