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BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:51 PM ET
sweet kindergarten award rules, bro.
- OrangeBlack27


So I guess we'll count you as one of the fans that would not like to see more different players win awards. Noted, and thank you for your submission bro.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:51 PM ET
I doubt Colorado wants to move Johnson. They gave up Stewart and Shattenkirk for his punk ass.
- stveshdy

I know, we shall see what happens. I am hoping tho
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:51 PM ET
Can't say he is completely undeserving. He had a hell of a season, but to me the Hart voting frequently seems skewed by scoring numbers almost the same way the Norris voting goes. I certainly think you can make a case for other Hart candidates that were equally valuable to their teams, but didn't score as much. That said, I don't have a huge issue with Malkin winning it this year.

Personally, I would like to see a rule that prevents players from winning more than one award per year. So if you with the Art Ross, you can't also win the Hart. You win the Vezina, you can't win the Hart. Etc., etc. There are issues with that approach too, but I just think it's more fair to spread it around (and probably better for the league and the fans).

- BringBack25

Malkin looked like he had a lot of Hart his last game of the playoffs as he was giving James Neal poop on the bench of botching a play.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 20 @ 10:51 PM ET
tampa's goaltenders had a sub .900 save % for the year. that absolutely abysmal in today's league. but the bolts not trading for a 'tender has nothing to do with stamkos and shouldn't affect whether or not he's worth of MVP nomination.
- OrangeBlack27


1-3-1. High powered offense.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:53 PM ET
The Rangers won 62% of the games that Lundqvist started. They won 60% of the games that Marty Biron started. MVP my ass.
- Jsaquella


I think I know where you are headed. And I believe I agree.

Biron was underrated all season and should have been in at least the top 5 for MVP.

Maybe he can build on this past year and get the recognition he deserves in 12/13
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 20 @ 10:53 PM ET
wow

was it only the position thing? like they weren't gonna put a C in a wing spot?

- FlyerMike18


https://twitter.com/NHLby...status/215636877162713088
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 20 @ 10:53 PM ET
So I guess we'll count you as one of the fans that would not like to see more different players win awards. Noted, and thank you for your submission bro.
- BringBack25


OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 20 @ 10:54 PM ET

- OrangeBlack27


must've been what happened in the early 80s with the pearson award (i think).

sorry, mr. gretzky; your ~200 points won you the art ross. we're giving this one to mike liut.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:55 PM ET
So I guess we'll count you as one of the fans that would not like to see more different players win awards. Noted, and thank you for your submission bro.
- BringBack25

For finishing with Bro I think you deserve a gold star too from Mookie other wise I see this as complete bias to the other guy's opinion.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 20 @ 10:56 PM ET
I lie the fact that you finished with bro, shows you are a very classy person
- bigmookalookie


gotta do it. there are enough clowns around here.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:56 PM ET
sweet kindergarten award rules, bro.
- OrangeBlack27


Every player gets a trophy?
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:56 PM ET
For finishing with Bro I think you deserve a gold star too from Mookie other wise I see this as complete bias to the other guy's opinion.
- JoeRussomanno

more like a agree to disagree scenario
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:56 PM ET
don't think stamkos had much to do with tampa having the absolute worst goaltending in the league by a mile. that should not work against him.
- OrangeBlack27


Agreed. Stamkos was a reasonable Hart nominee.

But any team that plays that 1-3-1 should be automatically disqualified from award eligibility for being a disgrace to the game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:57 PM ET
So I guess we'll count you as one of the fans that would not like to see more different players win awards. Noted, and thank you for your submission bro.
- BringBack25


Players should win what they deserve to win. If that means one player wins more then one award. Then so be it.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 20 @ 10:57 PM ET
https://twitter.com/NHLbyMatty/status/215636877162713088
- OrangeBlack27


makes a little more sense
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:57 PM ET
gotta do it. there are enough clowns around here.
- OrangeBlack27

nice, I see your xbox avatar.. I can only think you play online, whats your gamertag?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 20 @ 10:58 PM ET
Agreed. Stamkos was a reasonable Hart nominee.

But any team that plays that 1-3-1 should be automatically disqualified from award eligibility for being a disgrace to the game.

- BringBack25


OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 20 @ 10:59 PM ET
makes a little more sense
- FlyerMike18


l8 but lol @ brian campbell winning the lady byng with SIX pims on the year.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 20 @ 11:00 PM ET
nice, I see your xbox avatar.. I can only think you play online, whats your gamertag?
- bigmookalookie


rshnk29
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:01 PM ET
Hockey Break‏@HockeyBreak

Confirmed - Flyers on Nash's list. Certainly not a done deal but JvR, Read, Bobvrosky & a 1st round pick being discussed in potential deal.


BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:02 PM ET
must've been what happened in the early 80s with the pearson award (i think).

sorry, mr. gretzky; your ~200 points won you the art ross. we're giving this one to mike liut.

- OrangeBlack27


In that situation (84-85 I think) the Hart clearly should have gone to Semenko for keeping Gretzky alive long enough to score ~200 points. Duh.

See, it's a great system!





bro
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:02 PM ET
rshnk29
- OrangeBlack27


Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:03 PM ET
The Wish list in order

Shea Weber
Tyler Myers
Brent Seabrooke
Griffin Reinhart
Ryan Murray
Erik Johnson
Ryan Suter
Matt Carle
Luke Schenn (Even though he doesn't make much sense anymore)
Sheldon Souray (For very cheap)
Jay Bouwmeester

ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:03 PM ET
Hockey Break‏@HockeyBreak

Confirmed - Flyers on Nash's list. Certainly not a done deal but JvR, Read, Bobvrosky & a 1st round pick being discussed in potential deal.

- bigmookalookie


Angry mob currently being armed with pitch forks and torches heading towards Homer's office.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 20 @ 11:04 PM ET
Hockey Break‏@HockeyBreak

Confirmed - Flyers on Nash's list. Certainly not a done deal but JvR, Read, Bobvrosky & a 1st round pick being discussed in potential deal.

- bigmookalookie







....need time to process this......but initial reaction is meh
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