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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:47 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Harding signing does NOT mean Backstrom is in play. Spoke with Wild GM Chuck Fletcher, who says he wants strong 1-2 punch for next season
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:14 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Harding signing does NOT mean Backstrom is in play. Spoke with Wild GM Chuck Fletcher, who says he wants strong 1-2 punch for next season

- VANTEL


That sound you hear is Burke's ulcer getting aggravated.
canuck_fan_in_t.o.
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.16.2009

Jun 19 @ 7:15 PM ET
I think that if the Canucks draft a goalie with the 26th pick, they are dumb, dumb, and dumb. We currently have Luongo, Schneider, Lack, and Cannata. All of them are great goalies. I would recommend a 6th or 7th round pick when choosing a goalie. The Canucks need defensemen and forwards for the future, not goaltenders. The Canucks, realistically, don't need to draft a goalie for five more seasons.
Troutback
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Outback
Joined: 10.23.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:17 PM ET
Just throwing it out there - but does anyone agree that Komi is exactly what the canucks need on the blue line? A 3rd or 2nd pairing D-man that blocks shots and hits. He might not be doing lots of pinching, but you have to believe he's a better option than Rome or Alberts.
If Luongo goes to TO, I'm content with getting Komi back and something more. Just don't know what that more is.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:17 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Harding signing does NOT mean Backstrom is in play. Spoke with Wild GM Chuck Fletcher, who says he wants strong 1-2 punch for next season

- VANTEL

could lombardi do that with the kings this season?

remember that CS was given more games and more responsibility (prior to the playoffs) to increase his trade value. (so much for well laid plans)

anyway, would lombardi keep bernier with the idea of increasing his games played to around 30 to a) keep quick fresh for the playoffs; and b) increase bernier's trade value next summer.

food for thought.
Troutback
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Outback
Joined: 10.23.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:17 PM ET
I think that if the Canucks draft a goalie with the 26th pick, they are dumb, dumb, and dumb. We currently have Luongo, Schneider, Lack, and Cannata. All of them are great goalies. I would recommend a 6th or 7th round pick when choosing a goalie. The Canucks need defensemen and forwards for the future, not goaltenders. The Canucks, realistically, don't need to draft a goalie for five more seasons.
- canuck_fan_in_t.o.


Draft one next year with a 2nd. Takes time for them to develop.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:20 PM ET
Just throwing it out there - but does anyone agree that Komi is exactly what the canucks need on the blue line? A 3rd or 2nd pairing D-man that blocks shots and hits. He might not be doing lots of pinching, but you have to believe he's a better option than Rome or Alberts.
If Luongo goes to TO, I'm content with getting Komi back and something more. Just don't know what that more is.

- Troutback

i said it earlier but i'd take komisarek as long as ballard is gone.

i don't like komi's turning ability when players go wide with speed but i wouldn't mind him as a 6 or 7 guy depending on the opponent.

it's a lot to pay for a utility D but i'd take him depending on the rest of the deal (and ballard is traded).
Troutback
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Outback
Joined: 10.23.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:20 PM ET
could lombardi do that with the kings this season?

remember that CS was given more games and more responsibility (prior to the playoffs) to increase his trade value. (so much for well laid plans)

anyway, would lombardi keep bernier with the idea of increasing his games played to around 30 to a) keep quick fresh for the playoffs; and b) increase bernier's trade value next summer.

food for thought.

- RealityChecker


I bet he will, you need to have some insurance. How good are the kings if they trade Bernier and Quick gets an injury for 20 games? What decent back-up goalies are available right now anyway?
canuck_fan_in_t.o.
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.16.2009

Jun 19 @ 7:23 PM ET
Kane for Schneider our 1 st and prospect
- VANTEL


Are you high? I would consider the earlier trade of Kane for Schneider, but Schneider + 1st round pick + prospect for Kane? Ridiculous!

If Gillis does this trade, he must be fired immediately.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:25 PM ET
Are you high? I would consider the earlier trade of Kane for Schneider, but Schneider + 1st round pick + prospect for Kane? Ridiculous!

If Gillis does this trade, he must be fired immediately.

- canuck_fan_in_t.o.

for evander kane?

if wpg is expecting less, chevaldayoff should be fired immediately.
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 09.29.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:27 PM ET
Agreed. We were just speculating the "large contract" that might have to come back. Clearly it would be that plus something of actual value.
- AlexF


So who does Florida have in their system that might be a future fit with the Canucks?

I am hoping the Canucks go after Garrison, local boy, lots of upside, etc.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:28 PM ET
i said it earlier but i'd take komisarek as long as ballard is gone.

i don't like komi's turning ability when players go wide with speed but i wouldn't mind him as a 6 or 7 guy depending on the opponent.

it's a lot to pay for a utility D but i'd take him depending on the rest of the deal (and ballard is traded).

- RealityChecker


Agreed. Taking on another $4.5M (for 2 seasons) for a 5/6 Dman is bad cap management. Coupled with Ballard would tie up $9M in your 3rd (or worse) pairing D. I'd rather spend that same money on Luongo as back up.
canuck_fan_in_t.o.
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.16.2009

Jun 19 @ 7:28 PM ET
Lu for Komi
- VANTEL


Luongo for Komisarek and Colborne. Done deal!
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:33 PM ET
Luongo for Komisarek and Colborne. Done deal!
- canuck_fan_in_t.o.

Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jun 19 @ 7:37 PM ET

- RealityChecker


AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:37 PM ET
So who does Florida have in their system that might be a future fit with the Canucks?

I am hoping the Canucks go after Garrison, local boy, lots of upside, etc.

- we_are_all_canucks


Ian had a whole blog about it about a week ago. They've got lots in that system that would be of interest (Huberdeau, Howdon, McFarlan, etc).

Sounds like Garrison has Vancouver as #1 on his list so fingers crossed.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:38 PM ET

- Scooby_Doo

you know you've lived in vancouver too long when you understand that joke.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 10.03.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:39 PM ET
Just throwing it out there - but does anyone agree that Komi is exactly what the canucks need on the blue line? A 3rd or 2nd pairing D-man that blocks shots and hits. He might not be doing lots of pinching, but you have to believe he's a better option than Rome or Alberts.
If Luongo goes to TO, I'm content with getting Komi back and something more. Just don't know what that more is.

- Troutback


Komisarek is slow and expensive. Rome costs a quarter of what he does. Taking on the salary is not appealing. If the Canucks want to improve by trading Luongo, replacing his cap hit with a 3rd pairing Dman is not going to help.

People seem to forget that Luongo played in 55 game slast year and won 33 of them. Assuming Schneider can match that, does anyone really think there isn't going to be a huge drop off at the back up position? Cory won 20 of the 33 games he played. Not very likely that Lack can do that in his first year. If we deal Lu, we need to get better. Komisarek doesn't bring value in terms of cap hit or player production.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:39 PM ET
Ian had a whole blog about it about a week ago. They've got lots in that system that would be of interest (Huberdeau, Howdon, McFarlan, etc).

Sounds like Garrison has Vancouver as #1 on his list so fingers crossed.

- AlexF

they've got a TON of talent in the pipeline. i would have listed a couple of names i'd like to come back in a luongo trade but i really don't have the energy to put up with the leafs fans.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:39 PM ET
could lombardi do that with the kings this season?

remember that CS was given more games and more responsibility (prior to the playoffs) to increase his trade value. (so much for well laid plans)

anyway, would lombardi keep bernier with the idea of increasing his games played to around 30 to a) keep quick fresh for the playoffs; and b) increase bernier's trade value next summer.

food for thought.

- RealityChecker


I could easily see it. They don't need a lot and reportedly in on the Parise sweeps .They have cap space so why trade their insurance marker.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:42 PM ET
i said it earlier but i'd take komisarek as long as ballard is gone.

i don't like komi's turning ability when players go wide with speed but i wouldn't mind him as a 6 or 7 guy depending on the opponent.

it's a lot to pay for a utility D but i'd take him depending on the rest of the deal (and ballard is traded).

- RealityChecker


Expensive #7. Keep Lu go after Kane with CS
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jun 19 @ 7:51 PM ET
you know you've lived in vancouver too long when you understand that joke.
- RealityChecker



That was my first post after a 24 hr ban for saying Luongo for Gardiner, Schenn + 1st.
Which one is more offensive and which one do I get banned for?
Troutback
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Outback
Joined: 10.23.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:51 PM ET
Komisarek is slow and expensive. Rome costs a quarter of what he does. Taking on the salary is not appealing. If the Canucks want to improve by trading Luongo, replacing his cap hit with a 3rd pairing Dman is not going to help.

People seem to forget that Luongo played in 55 game slast year and won 33 of them. Assuming Schneider can match that, does anyone really think there isn't going to be a huge drop off at the back up position? Cory won 20 of the 33 games he played. Not very likely that Lack can do that in his first year. If we deal Lu, we need to get better. Komisarek doesn't bring value in terms of cap hit or player production.

- micah555


I agree with you that Van has to get better, but I think a change of scenery would do Komisarek some good. But you're right, the cap doesn't add up - especially if Ballard is still on there. Haven't given up on Ballard as a player though - love the end to end rushes he comes up with every 3rd game.

The Nucks definitely need a guy that is scary to play against on D. Just don't have one right now.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:53 PM ET

That was my first post after a 24 hr ban for saying Luongo for Gardiner, Schenn + 1st.
Which one is more offensive and which one do I get banned for?

- Scooby_Doo



Wow ,Anne?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:55 PM ET
I agree with you that Van has to get better, but I think a change of scenery would do Komisarek some good. But you're right, the cap doesn't add up - especially if Ballard is still on there. Haven't given up on Ballard as a player though - love the end to end rushes he comes up with every 3rd game.

The Nucks definitely need a guy that is scary to play against on D. Just don't have one right now.

- Troutback



Did you cheack and even see if we were on his list of acceptable teams on June 15th?
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