Iginla is Long Island bound!
- Mr.Black

Would be nice, but at what price? And doesn't he have a NTC? If so, why would he wave it to come here?

XxNYIxX

Would be nice, but at what price? And doesn't he have a NTC? If so, why would he wave it to come here?

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

Minor details X.

Iginla is Long Island bound!
- Mr.Black

I doubt it...

Would be nice, but at what price? And doesn't he have a NTC? If so, why would he wave it to come here?

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

PA's rights and Brock Nelson and a second for Jokinens rights and Iginla. That would be nice

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In addition to adding a physical, third-line center and backup goalie (presuming either Roberto Luongo or Cory Schneider is moved), the Vancouver Canucks could be looking to bolster their blue line this offseason.

Without an excess of salary cap space, the Canucks could benefit from signing an unrestricted free agent with a less prominent profile (read: ultra-cheap). And ESPN Insider Robert Vollman suggests Dylan Reese may be an adept under-the-radar acquisition.

- Victoria Matiash

Robert Vollman of Hockey Prospectus
Potential low-risk signing
"... Though the 27-year-old has played just 74 NHL games, all on the questionable New York Islanders blue line, he may be just the type of value player Vancouver needs to seek out to shore up one of its few weaknesses without fundamentally compromising what makes them a Presidents' Trophy-winning team. If even a struggling team like the Islanders can enjoy a possession advantage with top-four minutes entrusted to him, then Reese ought to be an ideal low-risk upgrade over (Keith) Ballard, (Andrew) Alberts and (UFA Aaron) Rome on Vancouver's third unit ..."

Florida took the gamble? They had four more regulation wins than the Islanders and managed to lose 18 games in overtime.

So what you are saying is trading for Brian Campbell's contract who was an overpriced joke in Chicago is the kind of move Snow should make. That he should offer Hamrlik or Souray an over 35 four years sixteen million contract like Jovanovski got.

Why not give that offer to Aucoin and Hamrlik?

Heck why not do what Steve Yzerman did? Bruno Gervais, Bergeron for two years and Matt Gilroy.

You want to call up Burke and help him out with Komisarek's cap hit while he does his Jurcina impersonation for five million?
- NYI

So it's impossible to make a trade and they can't sign any free agents because of front loaded contracts. How exactly do you propose to make this team better? Do you really expect to build a long term contender solely through the draft? I hate to tell you, its not going to happen.

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In addition to adding a physical, third-line center and backup goalie (presuming either Roberto Luongo or Cory Schneider is moved), the Vancouver Canucks could be looking to bolster their blue line this offseason.

Without an excess of salary cap space, the Canucks could benefit from signing an unrestricted free agent with a less prominent profile (read: ultra-cheap). And ESPN Insider Robert Vollman suggests Dylan Reese may be an adept under-the-radar acquisition.

- Victoria Matiash

Robert Vollman of Hockey Prospectus
Potential low-risk signing
"... Though the 27-year-old has played just 74 NHL games, all on the questionable New York Islanders blue line, he may be just the type of value player Vancouver needs to seek out to shore up one of its few weaknesses without fundamentally compromising what makes them a Presidents' Trophy-winning team. If even a struggling team like the Islanders can enjoy a possession advantage with top-four minutes entrusted to him, then Reese ought to be an ideal low-risk upgrade over (Keith) Ballard, (Andrew) Alberts and (UFA Aaron) Rome on Vancouver's third unit ..."
- brodydog29

I for the life of me cant understand why we arent resigning him!

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I doubt it...
- kear20

I can dream can't I...

I can dream can't I...
- Mr.Black

If you are going to dream why settle for Iginla?

XxNYIxX

So it's impossible to make a trade and they can't sign any free agents because of front loaded contracts. How exactly do you propose to make this team better? Do you really expect to build a long term contender solely through the draft? I hate to tell you, its not going to happen.
- PeteM

It happens all the time, the core gets good and then the support veterans come to a team to push them to the next level.

The players they need most are the ones already here, that means deHaan and Donovan play here from day one with Streit, Hamonic and MacDonald.

They need a scoring defender or one veteran who will produce ten goals on the backline. Ullstrom, Niederreiter, maybe Joensuu give them the size badly lacking at forward. There is no unwritten rule that says Cizikas, Strome or Nelson cannot come in and make this team or the other signed prospects.

No law that says Okopso cannot go back on the top line, replace Parenteau and start becoming a franchise player, same for Bailey.

Oh because Bobby Ny played a lot of hockey in Sweden from ages 1-4?? He moved to Canada at age 4.......but im sure you can find a Euro who doesnt fit my description if you keep trying.
- kindlyrick

Anders Kallur, Stefan Persson. Should I keep going?

It happens all the time, the core gets good and then the support veterans come to a team to push them to the next level.

The players they need most are the ones already here, that means deHaan and Donovan play here from day one with Streit, Hamonic and MacDonald.

They need a scoring defender or one veteran who will produce ten goals on the backline. Ullstrom, Niederreiter, maybe Joensuu give them the size badly lacking at forward. There is no unwritten rule that says Cizikas, Strome or Nelson cannot come in and make this team or the other signed prospects.

No law that says Okopso cannot go back on the top line, replace Parenteau and start becoming a franchise player, same for Bailey.
- NYI

....I could win the lottery tomorrow

PA's rights and Brock Nelson and a second for Jokinens rights and Iginla. That would be nice
- mighty13duck

That wouldn't be good. Period. Are you nuts?

....I could win the lottery tomorrow
- potvin05

How about we simply settle for no more Staios, Jurcina, Eaton, or Mottau blowing all those third period leads which was the only difference between where they finished and the 8th seed.

How about we simply settle for no more Staios, Jurcina, Eaton, or Mottau blowing all those third period leads which was the only difference between where they finished and the 8th seed.
- NYI

You're throwing all these hypotheticals out there, so I figured I'd throw one out there too.
These clowns you just mentioned I wanted no part of in the first place.

You're throwing all these hypotheticals out there, so I figured I'd throw one out there too.
These clowns you just mentioned I wanted no part of in the first place.
- potvin05

What's hypothetical about Staios turnover in Washington that cost the Isles a regulation win against the eventual 8th seed and a sweep at Washington on the season?

Washington won the lottery getting that gift 3-2 overtime win, and that's how a lot of games played out which made all the difference.

You wrote making the playoffs with the kids has the same odds as winning the lottery. Funny how even Gervais, Hillen on a defense in 2010-11 took a team from thirteen games under five hundred to four games under simply because the defense was faster.

What's hypothetical about Staios turnover in Washington that cost the Isles a regulation win against the eventual 8th seed and a sweep at Washington on the season?

You wrote making the playoffs with the kids has the same odds as winning the lottery. Funny how even Gervais, Hillen on a defense in 2010-11 took a team from thirteen games under five hundred to four games under simply because the defense was faster.
- NYI

Those weren't the hypotheticals I was referring to.

BTW...are you bashing the front office for abandoning a quicker defense for a more physical, slower defensive corps?

Those weren't the hypotheticals I was referring to.

BTW...are you bashing the front office for abandoning a quicker defense for a more physical, slower defensive corps?
- potvin05

Absolutely.

Snow deserves big criticism for moving on from Martinek, Hillen, Gervais, and not giving Wishart and Resse a spot from day one because that worked in the second half of 2010-11, but he also had a problem and that was slower Eaton, Mottau had contracts and all were coming back from injury plus they had Jurcina.

Wishart played 20 games here in the second half of 2010-11 and was plus five.

Snow made his worst choice as a gm in a terrible market for UFA defenders bringing in Staios and then putting him with Mark Streit which is a joke when you consider Staios was traded for former Islander Aaron Johnson a few years ago.

Teams started keying on Streit from opening night and were taking some big runs at him. The distance between the forwards and defenders were terrible in transition as Eaton, Mottau and those defenders could not skate the puck to the forwards or were pinned in (long passes meant icing) and absolutely could never get in position to sustain any kind of forecheck so there goes your five on five scoring or any sustained pressure.

This sunk Gordon before he was fired, they all got hurt, the team started winning but the problems returned with them last fall.

That plus Snow got unlucky with fair statistical games on Reasoner and Rolston but maybe that was about the defense too.

Bottom line, exit Staios, Jurcina, Eaton, Mottau, enter Donovan, deHaan, Reese and any skating defender with little offense/size and it's as good as any team in the East.

I actually can't disagree with any of that, defense wise. It's pretty spot on, but guys like Reasoner and Rolston were not dudes I wanted here. We actually did the Devils a huge favor making that trade because the Devils couldn't afford to give Parise the one year qualifying offer they ultimately could afford because of that trade, and then did.

If you keep holding your breath on guys like Bailey and Okposo and some of the others you mentioned earlier, then I don't know what to tell you. I obviously expect, and want (crazy enough), to see both of them in the top 9 this upcoming season, but this season is the last chance I hope to see, especially Bailey. Okposo, I tend to give more of a pass to because of the extent of injuries, and maybe his late season surge can be sustained.

But, being an Islanders fan, I'll believe all those hypotheticals when I actually see them happen.

I actually can't disagree with any of that, defense wise.

If you keep holding your breath on guys like Bailey and Okposo and some of the others you mentioned earlier, then I don't know what to tell you. I obviously expect, and want (crazy enough), to see both of them in the top 9 this upcoming season, but this season is the last chance I hope to see, especially Bailey. Okposo, I tend to give more of a pass to because of the extent of injuries, and maybe his late season surge can be sustained.

But, being an Islanders fan, I'll believe all those hypotheticals when I actually see them happen.
- potvin05

XxNYIxX

That wouldn't be good. Period. Are you nuts?
- potvin05

How? PA seems to be gone so Iginla replaces him with JT and provides vet leadership with JT. Jokinen gives us some secondary scoring and all we lose is Nelson and a pick?

How? PA seems to be gone so Iginla replaces him with JT and provides vet leadership with JT. Jokinen gives us some secondary scoring and all we lose is Nelson and a pick?
- mighty13duck

All we lose is Nelson?? Are you (frank)ing serious?

I'm all for adding vets, even at the cost of prospects like Nelson, but for a 35 year old, formerly physical player, who's on the downside of his career? Jokinen is basically the same age, plays no defense at all, and has already proven he hates the NY area. Plus, he plays when he wants.
And...you want to throw in our 2nd pick, which is basically a low 1st?? You are nuts.

He could be JT's enforcer.
- UIF

He will punch everyone in the fist with his face.

I actually can't disagree with any of that, defense wise. It's pretty spot on, but guys like Reasoner and Rolston were not dudes I wanted here.
- potvin05

It's not a question of who we want here, it's what did they do that made them of value to this gm to sign them.

Reasoner was brought in to play fourth line and if he scored the same thirteen goals he did for Florida that turns those 30 plus losses by two goals (open nets losses) into wins.

We actually did the Devils a huge favor making that trade because the Devils couldn't afford to give Parise the one year qualifying offer they ultimately could afford because of that trade, and then did.
- potvin05

And the Devils did the Isles a favor giving them a player who had 29 points from 1/9/11 to the end of the season on a 22-2 team at one point. Hunter was bought out by the Devils and what team gave him thirty eight games before putting him on waivers? The Los Angeles Kings.

If you keep holding your breath on guys like Bailey and Okposo and some of the others you mentioned earlier, then I don't know what to tell you. I obviously expect, and want (crazy enough), to see both of them in the top 9 this upcoming season, but this season is the last chance I hope to see, especially Bailey. Okposo, I tend to give more of a pass to because of the extent of injuries, and maybe his late season surge can be sustained.
- potvin05

Bailey and Okposo are top draft picks and at this age it is not close to their last chance when in fact they are only beginning. 29 other teams with top picks all hold their breaths and wait also. Sometimes it works, sometimes it turns into Florida.

Imagine JT was injured all of last season? We seriously would have won 16 games