GoneFull
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Ahh. Dshiddy. Never mind. - prock
He's not the only Canucks fan who is an idiot. |
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Mapleleafs_91
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Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS Joined: 06.27.2011
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[quote=PootieTang]Realistically this is what will happen:
Toronto trades 5th overall + Schenn for Duchene
Toronto trades Kulemin, Colborne, MaCarthur, Percy, 2012 2nd for E. Kane
Toronto trades Komisarek, 2012 3rd, Scrivens, Damigo for Luongo
Toronto signs Schultz
Lupul Grabo Kessel
Kane Duchene Kadri
Frattin Bozak Armdog
Crabbs Steckel Brown
Gunnarsson Phaneuf
Gardiner Schultz
Liles Franson
Ex: Holzer
Luongo
Reimer
Leafs WILL make the playoffs, Burke gets an extension.
Fixed. |
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peddy-93
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Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON Joined: 06.08.2012
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well said..
the market is severely limited for Lu, who else is there out there who can
A: afford the contract
B: need a 1A goalie
another thing to consider is that burke and gillis would make this trade at a professional level TOPS.. because they dont like each other very much
i cant see burke doing gillis any favours is all.. and if there does happen to be another team willing to overpay.. i also see burke not getting in the way - Dozzer
Bingo.
Gillis isnt in a position of strength. He doesnt HAVE to trade Lu, but if he really wants to, there arent enough teams to get a bidding war to drive the price up.. Toronto seems to be the only team that is really interested, which means Gillis wont get much of a return.. im thinking Komi + 2nd + mid-level prospect
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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No matter what we give as our opinion, I think this will be one of the most intriguing off seasons in quite a bit, not only maybe for the Leafs but for a quite a few big name players. - LeafMan
Well the LEafs better be active.....they need to be in the playoffs and they need big changes to occur in order for that to happen. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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As far as MLSEL is concerned, there are six more years on the contract.
The final four years are for a total of $7 million in actual money - which is exactly what the Leafs spent over two years so they didn't have to look at Finger.
And if a miracle happens and Luongo is still good after six years, well, even better.
If we can get Luongo and shed some crap in the process, I'm all for it.
Throw in D'Amigo or Franson so Gillis can sell it to his fans. - Atomic Wedgie
you know thats not true.
businesses simply do not operate that way, when they enter into a contract they need to be prepared to honour the entire thing.. you dont sign onto something "hoping" the other party will let you off the hook
thats just bad business... nothing less or more.
odds are lu does retire, however, MLSE cannot approach the trade as if they believe he will |
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GoneFull
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: ON Joined: 07.31.2010
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Anyone expecting him to be a top goalie, making him worth that contract, until he's 40 is just as foolish. - prock
no no no...
Every week the number of years he will play decreases.
I think, as of this week, it is now GUARANTEED that he will only play 4 more years. We might be down to 3 more years.
Seriously, this is really really true. He is going to walk away from 10's of millions of dollars, guaranteed! |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Domino's I tells ya. - LeafMan
now i kinda want pizza lol |
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peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON Joined: 06.08.2012
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Domino's I tells ya. - LeafMan
I also heard Montreal wants to sign Price long term but he wants short term.. hmmmmm |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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you know thats not true.
businesses simply do not operate that way, when they enter into a contract they need to be prepared to honour the entire thing.. you dont sign onto something "hoping" the other party will let you off the hook
thats just bad business... nothing less or more.
odds are lu does retire, however, MLSE cannot approach the trade as if they believe he will - Dozzer
What I meant was Luongo doesn't have a NMC - just a NTC.
After six years, they can bury him in the A (just like Finger). |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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I also heard Montreal wants to sign Price long term but he wants short term.. hmmmmm - peddy-93
and also that prospect who has been playing two years in the league, Subban according to EE. |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Domino's I tells ya. - LeafMan
Big Bob MacKenzie throws out his rankings tonight. That'll give us an hour or two to chat about something other then Luongo. |
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Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS Joined: 06.27.2011
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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now i kinda want pizza lol - Dozzer
I'm sticking with the chicken. haha
Busy today? |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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As far as MLSEL is concerned, there are six more years on the contract.
The final four years are for a total of $7 million in actual money - which is exactly what the Leafs spent over two years so they didn't have to look at Finger.
And if a miracle happens and Luongo is still good after six years, well, even better.
If we can get Luongo and shed some crap in the process, I'm all for it.
Throw in D'Amigo or Franson so Gillis can sell it to his fans. - Atomic Wedgie
I agree, althought I would keep Franson |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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Big Bob MacKenzie throws out his rankings tonight. That'll give us an hour or two to chat about something other then Luongo. - The Law
oh, watch that waistline now. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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What I meant was Luongo doesn't have a NMC - just a NTC.
After six years, they can bury him in the A (just like Finger). - Atomic Wedgie
yeah i suppose.. however.. if the team has built properly and drafted well.. my hope would be that there wouldnt be any room for him down there
sooo i guess ECHL it is |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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I'm sticking with the chicken. haha
Busy today? - LeafMan
steady.. i've been doing a bit extra so i am ahead of the game for the first week of july which i am taking off
so, with weekend work figured in, i am sitting pretty right now |
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GoneFull
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: ON Joined: 07.31.2010
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Bingo.
Gillis isnt in a position of strength. He doesnt HAVE to trade Lu, but if he really wants to, there arent enough teams to get a bidding war to drive the price up.. Toronto seems to be the only team that is really interested, which means Gillis wont get much of a return.. im thinking Komi + 2nd + mid-level prospect - peddy-93
There is ZERO concrete evidence that Toronto is even interested. For all we know, there haven't even been any serious talks, or any talking at all.
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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you know thats not true.
businesses simply do not operate that way, when they enter into a contract they need to be prepared to honour the entire thing.. you dont sign onto something "hoping" the other party will let you off the hook
thats just bad business... nothing less or more.
odds are lu does retire, however, MLSE cannot approach the trade as if they believe he will - Dozzer
Oh they wont approach it that way...but the last 4 years are a wash...it's 7 million.....peanuts to them.....if he plays and is bad...the minors it is...if he's good..great. |
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mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Thornhill, ON Joined: 10.04.2010
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no no no...
Every week the number of years he will play decreases.
I think, as of this week, it is now GUARANTEED that he will only play 4 more years. We might be down to 3 more years.
Seriously, this is really really true. He is going to walk away from 10's of millions of dollars, guaranteed! - GoneFullRetard
Here is the rationale both ways.
At age 39, Luongo's actual salary drops from $6.7M to $3.4M at age 40, then to $1.6M at 41, and finally $1.0M for 42 and 43.
Vancouver fans seem to think that he would have made enough $ by then that he will clearly retire by age 39...
The problem is that I rarely have ever seen a human being walk away from guaranteed $, espcially when it is in the Millions of Dollars range.
Lou is a competitor amnd will most likely play until he is physically unable (that is my guess).
Now, if he plays to this point, his cap hit will still remain at $5.6M and will cripple the team for those final 3-4 years. Is it worth it? Possibly, but not for Gardiner, Schenn, the 5th overall, and whatever other crap they seem to like to throw into the trade. |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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steady.. i've been doing a bit extra so i am ahead of the game for the first week of july which i am taking off
so, with weekend work figured in, i am sitting pretty right now - Dozzer
No clue as to where yet? Dani is being tight lipped about it, eh? |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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There is ZERO concrete evidence that Toronto is even interested. For all we know, there haven't even been any serious talks, or any talking at all. - GoneFullRetard
The reality is there wont be a season next year anyway...so who cares what the leafs or any other does this off season.
Its a lock out year baby!
Enjoy the vaca! |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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no no no...
Every week the number of years he will play decreases.
I think, as of this week, it is now GUARANTEED that he will only play 4 more years. We might be down to 3 more years.
Seriously, this is really really true. He is going to walk away from 10's of millions of dollars, guaranteed! - GoneFullRetard
10's of millions eh?
Have another look. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Oh they wont approach it that way...but the last 4 years are a wash...it's 7 million.....peanuts to them.....if he plays and is bad...the minors it is...if he's good..great. - Fakepartofme
thats my problem tho.. i dont want him in the minors.. unlike finger, lu is a goalie.. not as easy to make room for four years..
you would essentially throw away a goaltending prospect in order to do that |
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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Lockout here we come! wooo |
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