Sammich
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Location: You're the fukin best Bellows! Joined: 02.10.2011
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You get what you pay for in this case. Ott may not be free, but he's one of the best in the league at what he does... calling him a 3rd liner doesn't do him justice. The guy is a top-level checking line center. You give him 2nd line minutes, no problem, and feel good about it... not to mention he sees time on the powerplay. Granted, Dallas wasn't a great team this year, but he's still a guy who could provide valuable leadership to a young group of Leafs.... Basically, Mike Peca pt.2 - Schenn-Sational!
agreed about everything except for the Peca part. Overrated.
if giving up a 5-6 plug d-man like franson is all we have to give up for Ott then sign me up |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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Ideally, Galy... but he'll probably be gone, along with Forsberg... and Burke won't take Grigorenko, so likely one of Murray or Dumba. - Schenn-Sational!
Murray isn't falling to 5th and Dumba is just an idiotic pick at 5th considering how bad they need a center. If he won't take Grigorenko, that only leaves Faksa. |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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soon as they trade assets for Luongo and Nash - bobbyisno1
And sign Parise and Suter and Staal (both of them) and Getzlaf and... |
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DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: St.Albert, AB Joined: 06.24.2011
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he didn't even bring him in for an interview... go look up how many RSL/KHLers or QMJHLers he's drafted in his career. - Schenn-Sational!
doesnt matter what hes done in the past... grig is up there in rankings... burke made a point of saying hes gonna pick best available...also considering if hes at 5 the best available would also happen to be the position we need |
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jimmc7722
New York Islanders |
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Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON Joined: 02.06.2008
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Murray isn't falling to 5th and Dumba is just an idiotic pick at 5th considering how bad they need a center. If he won't take Grigorenko, that only leaves Faksa. - Unholy_Goalie
Murray does not make it past the # 4 spot.
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LEAFSfan28191
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: PEPPER FOREVER!!!!!, SK Joined: 06.02.2010
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Murray isn't falling to 5th and Dumba is just an idiotic pick at 5th considering how bad they need a center. If he won't take Grigorenko, that only leaves Faksa. - Unholy_Goalie
Thinking about it though if we got Ryan Murray and signed Schultz(who actually becomes the real deal) are Donce again on paper would look Fantastic |
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jimmc7722
New York Islanders |
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Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON Joined: 02.06.2008
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If Toronto wants Gally they will have to move up to the 2nd pick. |
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Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y Joined: 10.08.2008
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Murray isn't falling to 5th and Dumba is just an idiotic pick at 5th considering how bad they need a center. If he won't take Grigorenko, that only leaves Faksa. - Unholy_Goalie
You mean the guy who's got the potential to be a 2nd line winger?
THAT'LL SOLVE OUR TOP LINE CENTER NEEDS! Take the highest-valued guy, in this case, someone like Dumba, and trade him later, or let him make another asset available. Don't draft off the board just cuz the guy's a forwards who *might* be able to play center. |
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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Ott would just become the next colby armstrong, always hurt, never effective. Moving on. |
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Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y Joined: 10.08.2008
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Murray does not make it past the # 4 spot. - jimmc7722
the Islanders aren't exactly known for conventional draft picks |
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Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Current NHL-level d-group:
Phaneuf-Liles
Gardiner-Gunnarson
Komi-Schenn
Franson
Holzer is considered NHL-ready, and can easily replace Komi or Franson.
Gysbers, while not a high-end prospect could also fill in a lower defensive pairing
Rosehill, while he played forward last year, is a natural d-man, and could also play the #6 role in a pinch
Blacker and Percy are likely marlie-bound, but could surprise
And lets not forget, UFA... Leafs could use a veteran d-man to help stabalize their
group of youngsters, and there are a lot in this UFA class to be had. - Schenn-Sational!
Blacker is already there and Percy isn't eligible for the a yet
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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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And sign Parise and Suter and Staal (both of them) and Getzlaf and... - Unholy_Goalie
ahem, there is a cap to think about |
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Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: You're the fukin best Bellows! Joined: 02.10.2011
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They have to eat Lombardi's contract because they acquired Franson so yeah, they better treat him like an asset. - Unholy_Goalie
that wasn't the question
do you think franson is an asset?
personally i don't think much of him at all. other than having a above average shot im not seeing anything to get excited about. |
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yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON Joined: 07.02.2010
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If Toronto wants Gally they will have to move up to the 2nd pick. - jimmc7722
I haven't seen many scouting reports that have Gally at 2. |
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jimmc7722
New York Islanders |
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Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON Joined: 02.06.2008
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the Islanders aren't exactly known for conventional draft picks - Schenn-Sational!
Sure they are.
JT... Strome....Nino....etc. |
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Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y Joined: 10.08.2008
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doesnt matter what hes done in the past... grig is up there in rankings... burke made a point of saying hes gonna pick best available...also considering if hes at 5 the best available would also happen to be the position we need - DarcyTucker16
You're right. Past actions aren't an indication of future ones.
Just because Grigs is ranked high by some (20th by others) doesn't mean that Burke and his staff rank him that high as well. |
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jimmc7722
New York Islanders |
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Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON Joined: 02.06.2008
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I haven't seen many scouting reports that have Gally at 2. - yea-ok-buddy
The Blue Jackets or Montreal will probably scoop up Gally. |
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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that wasn't the question
do you think franson is an asset?
personally i don't think much of him at all. other than having a above average shot im not seeing anything to get excited about. - Sammich
I think Franson's value is right where Carlo Collaicovo's value was right when we dumped him in a trade for Stempniak. I rather Carlyle get a preseason with him before giving him up for Colby Armstrong 2.0. |
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Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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that wasn't the question
do you think franson is an asset?
personally i don't think much of him at all. other than having a above average shot im not seeing anything to get excited about. - Sammich
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LEAFSfan28191
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: PEPPER FOREVER!!!!!, SK Joined: 06.02.2010
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Sure they are.
JT... Strome....Nino....etc. - jimmc7722
Well Nino was kinda strange should of took fowler. |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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You mean the guy who's got the potential to be a 2nd line winger?
THAT'LL SOLVE OUR TOP LINE CENTER NEEDS! Take the highest-valued guy, in this case, someone like Dumba, and trade him later, or let him make another asset available. Don't draft off the board just cuz the guy's a forwards who *might* be able to play center. - Schenn-Sational!
First of all, he can and does center and secondly, he's a big, physical, two-way player. So yeah, he's kind of exactly what they need.
Don't draft Dumba because he "might" be as stupid as Phaneuf. |
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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First of all, he plays center and secondly, he's a big, physical, two-way player. So yeah, he's kind of exactly what they need.
Don't draft Dumba because he "might" be as stupid as Phaneuf. - Unholy_Goalie
Hey, stupid Phaneuf did great to start, maybe Dumba will do great and we can peddle him for multiple top 5 picks! |
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Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y Joined: 10.08.2008
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Sure they are.
JT... Strome....Nino....etc. - jimmc7722
They passed on Connolly and Fowler for Nino, and Couturier and Hamilton for Strome.
JT was fine.
But trading up for DeHaan? taking Bailey? bleh. |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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that wasn't the question
do you think franson is an asset?
personally i don't think much of him at all. other than having a above average shot im not seeing anything to get excited about. - Sammich
Yes he is. Not a huge asset but not worth tossing aside for nothing either. |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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Hey, stupid Phaneuf did great to start, maybe Dumba will do great and we can peddle him for multiple top 5 picks! - mykokes
Phaneuf came into the league when the game on the PP was through the roof. It helped him score a lot of goals and put up a lot of points. I doubt Dumba gets the same kind of luck where he becomes insanely valuable for being a one-way player. |
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