I think how shallow the market is this year is really going to push the trade market over the top... i think this year's draft might produce the most trades in recent history.

Buffalo has already said that all of their 6 picks in the first 3 rounds are in play. They said they have depth at Defense and are looking for a top line center.

Business is open!!
- JVince117

Someone make sure to tell Garth Snow business is open.

Does anyone read about these "Trade Wars"

This is what Sens blogger Travis Yost and Cloutier are doing apparently:

1.) The Calgary Flames send Jarome Iginla and Miikka Kiprusoff to the Tampa Bay Lightning for Brent Connolly, Keith Aulie, and the Lightning's 1st round pick in 2012 (10th overall).

2.) The Columbus Blue Jackets send Rick Nash (LW) to the Washington Capitals for Mike Green (D), and Washington's 1st round pick in the 2012 Entry Draft (11th and 16th Overall).

3.) The Toronto Maple Leafs send D Luke Schenn, C Nazem Kadri, and a first-round draft pick in 2013 to the Dallas Stars in exchange for G Jack Campbell and C Mike Ribeiro.

4.) The New York Islanders send the thirty-fourth overall selection (2nd round, 2012 NHL Draft) to the Vancouver Canucks in exchange for D Keith Ballard and a fourth-round pick in the 2012 NHL Draft.

5.) The Ottawa Senators send G Robin Lehner and F Mika Zibanejad to the Chicago Blackhawks in exchange for F Patrick Kane and D Adam Clendening.

6.) The Boston Bruins send Dougie Hamilton and Brad Marchand to the Detroit Red Wings in exchange for Brendan Smith and Valtteri Filppula.

7.) The Minnesota Wild send Tom Gilbert and Guillaume Latendresse to the Philadelphia Flyers for Sergei Bobrovsky

8.) The Buffalo Sabres send F Derek Roy and F Tyler Ennis to the Phoenix Coyotes in exchange for F Gilbert Brule and D Brandon Gormley.

9.) The New York Rangers send F Carl Hagelin and a first-round pick(28th overall) in the 2012 NHL Draft in exchange for F Ryane Clowe and a second-round pick(55th overall) in the 2012 NHL Draft.

1 - NO - Calgary will not give up the 2 faces of their franchise
2 - NO - Injury prone D man and a 1st for Nash.. yea right
3 - Maybe since it is the Leafs 2013 1st rounder
4 - Yea why not
5 - NO - Chicago would get fleeced
6 - Maybe.. I think Boston giving up Dougie could be too much though
7 - Yea why not.. Extra goalie for a D man and another F so a dif F could a trade
8 - H3LL NO
9 - This one could go either way.. I personally see Clowe as too much.

I did it for you.. End of page 7.. Eliminated 90% of them

I can give you examples of why they were eliminated

- Some were Rookies
- Some signed as RFAs
- Some were UFA's within 2 years
- Some contracts were for cap circumvention (i.e. less $ cause they signed long-term)
etc...

All of these things contribute to what a person signs for.
- mfreedman

I think the cap circumvention is bull... because a player signed a deal that is both good for him and his club it doesn't count!? Just because Grabo is a d!ck and wouldn't take a discount to stay in Toronto doesn't mean that its a good deal because someone else did.

stop being dense

you cannot compare contracts signed as UFA to contracts signed as RFA

completely different set of circumstances.
- Dozzer

????? You say you won't tolerate rudeness or name-calling -- and then you call someone "dense"? Do you have special privileges or position that allow you to circumvent your own warnings?

Some RFAs get big/huge contracts: Vanek....

Some UFAs get much smaller contracts: Burrows....

Personally, I would take both of those two over Grabovski. Of course my team would already have a No.1 C better than him.

Forget about Parise to LA, then. Why the hell would he want to go to the team that eliminated his in the final round?

Forget about Parise to LA, then. Why the hell would he want to go to the team that eliminated his in the final round?
- Ersberg

To win next time?

Eklund: Parise says "No Way" to signing with Rangers, Leaf Rumors, Flyers, Habs
- Eklund

BAAAAAAAAAM!!!!! Parise to Boston (clearly dreaming)

I think the cap circumvention is bull... because a player signed a deal that is both good for him and his club it doesn't count!? Just because Grabo is a d!ck and wouldn't take a discount to stay in Toronto doesn't mean that its a good deal because someone else did.
- JVince117

Umm.. Wow, not sure what to say to that...

It is simple business.. If a team is going to commit more term, then the dollar value on the contract lowers because it is risky to sign someone for so long. This is the reason why shorter term deals usually result in higher dollar value (See Tim Connolly, Zack Parise, etc...)

As for Grabo not signing long term, that is a Burke call not a Grabo call.. I realize you have some hatred for the Leafs, but please use common sense.

In addition to cap circumvention, you are telling me that Luongo 's cap is justifiably $5M per season when he is making $10M in his first ho wmany years, and then is most likely going to retire with several years left? No it is not bull, it is a simple matter of looking at the contracts and taking into consideration more than what they appear to be.

Please also keep in mind that when a player signs a contract has a lot to do with it. RFS vs UFA signings result in much different $ value.

????? You say you won't tolerate rudeness or name-calling -- and then you call someone "dense"? Do you have special privileges or position that allow you to circumvent your own warnings?

Some RFAs get big/huge contracts: Vanek....

Some UFAs get much smaller contracts: Burrows....

Personally, I would take both of those two over Grabovski. Of course my team would already have a No.1 C better than him.
- Vagabond

Gets popcorn!

????? You say you won't tolerate rudeness or name-calling -- and then you call someone "dense"? Do you have special privileges or position that allow you to circumvent your own warnings?

Some RFAs get big/huge contracts: Vanek....

Some UFAs get much smaller contracts: Burrows....

Personally, I would take both of those two over Grabovski. Of course my team would already have a No.1 C better than him.
- Vagabond

Calling someone dense and telling someone to pull their head out of their ass are two different things.

Who said Vanek wasn't overpaid?

Burrows plays a completely different role than Grabo, same with Vanek.

I think how shallow the market is this year is really going to push the trade market over the top... i think this year's draft might produce the most trades in recent history.

Buffalo has already said that all of their 6 picks in the first 3 rounds are in play. They said they have depth at Defense and are looking for a top line center.

Business is open!!
- JVince117

yeah, i have found over the years that the market dictates contract values almost as much as the players skill does.

i think there will be a ton of movement this year as well.. that first batch of RFAs from the post lockout era are getting to their UFA years.. time is ticking for some teams.. and assets in the form of picks/prospects will be moving lots

good time to be a rebuilding club... bloody hell burke just stay the course

Calling someone dense and telling someone to pull their head out of their ass are two different things.

Who said Vanek wasn't overpaid?

Burrows plays a completely different role than Grabo, same with Vanek.
- mfreedman

All i hear about is how Grab is much more amazing than just stats and #s...

So please enlighten me on what his style of game is and why it is so worth 5.5M

Thank You Parise. A top FA not going to the Rangers. Beautiful day.
- ses111

another thing that is beautiful is that many ranger fans (not on here) are saying good we dont/didn't want him anyway, even if he came to us we wouldnt sign him, we are better without him and we will get nash who is better

another thing that is beautiful is that many ranger fans (not on here) are saying good we dont/didn't want him anyway, even if he came to us we wouldnt sign him, we are better without him and we will get nash who is better
- dmarsden2988

Whats that.... He doesn't want to sign with us.... oh well we didn't want him any way...

????? You say you won't tolerate rudeness or name-calling -- and then you call someone "dense"? Do you have special privileges or position that allow you to circumvent your own warnings?

Some RFAs get big/huge contracts: Vanek....

Some UFAs get much smaller contracts: Burrows....

Personally, I would take both of those two over Grabovski. Of course my team would already have a No.1 C better than him.
- Vagabond

i said stop being dense.. i didnt call the person dense

All i hear about is how Grab is much more amazing than just stats and #s...

So please enlighten me on what his style of game is and why it is so worth 5.5M
- JVince117

That is the thing- he isn't and now other players are going to use it as a benchmark in how they will be getting paid... ie. Gagner, et al...

That is the thing- he isn't and now other players are going to use it as a benchmark in how they will be getting paid... ie. Gagner, et al...
- saskoil21

yea... thanks for f'n the NHL up Grabovski...

So help me god if that contract is going to make Ennis want any where near that much money..

another thing that is beautiful is that many ranger fans (not on here) are saying good we dont/didn't want him anyway, even if he came to us we wouldnt sign him, we are better without him and we will get nash who is better
- dmarsden2988

Somone needs to check on Larry Brooks. He may be in shock.

i said stop being dense.. i didnt call the person dense
- Dozzer

Thats just vagabond, he miss reads everything.

Really? I believe Vanek, Roy, Pommer have put up better numbers and are just as good or better a two way player than Grabo. Grabo is a solid player I think every team would want but get your head out of your ass when you evaluate.
- Dwight K. Schrute

Derek Roy , seriously? What kind of contract offer do you believe he's going to get from Bufffalo? They keep indicating that they might want to trade... him but there doesn't seem to be suitors... ever wonder why?

Here are a few of my observations:

1. Why in the hell would anyone want to play for the Rangers?
2. The Flyers and Habs should trade starting goaltenders...
3. The Leafs will rot in hell for 20 years if they trade for Lu...
- Flyfreaky

Kinda like the flyers are going to with Bryz?

But Lou is better.

All i hear about is how Grab is much more amazing than just stats and #s...

So please enlighten me on what his style of game is and why it is so worth 5.5M
- JVince117

As a 2nd line centre, he puts up points and plays a good defensive game. He is a very good 2-way player and is paid accordingly. If we want to compare him to 2nd line centres, we have the following list: (in the order of CapGeek)

Bergeron: Similar player, better than Grabo. Set to sign his next contract (same one as Grabo in next 2 years). Currently demands $5M will likely demand $6.5M+ with next contract.

Malkin: Completely different player than Grabo, makes $ according to skill set. $8.7M, enough said (not comparable)

Sharp: More points oriented than 2-way, but is paiid higher as a result. $5.9M

Giroux: Not comparable, still an RFA

Leino: Was signed to play C, makes $4.5M and far worse player than Grabo. Enough said.

Marleau: Point producer, making $6.9M. Paid more than Grabo, produces more too offesnively.

Kesler: Definitiely a better all around player than Grabo, and is a steal at $5M. However, he is a steal for almost any team around the league. This is the classic underpaid player.

Mike Richards: Makes more than Grabo at $5.75, but largely in part to his 10+ year deal. Not really ocmparable

Naming some others because too lazy to go into detail:

Jokinen, Johansen, Callahan, Lecavalier, Fleishman, Stastny, etc...

These are the players you need to compare him to.

When you look at the list and the players in similar position to him, considering all variables, he is not really overpaid.

you conveniently left out the part where parise said that he plans on remaining a devil

as a journalist you should really provide all info and not just snips of it
- dmarsden2988

Are any of these guys really Journalists? Seems that they are more make poop up on a rumor site to get hits guys. They rarely write about facts. They may have day jobs as Journalists. But what they are doing here is not that.

Derek Roy , seriously? What kind of contract offer do you believe he's going to get from Bufffalo? They keep indicating that they might want to trade... him but there doesn't seem to be suitors... ever wonder why?
- BorjeFan4Ever

yup, clashes with the head coach may have given him a bad rep, I'm not sure. But his performance on the ice is better than Grabo. Something you can not deny.

Derek Roy , seriously? What kind of contract offer do you believe he's going to get from Bufffalo? They keep indicating that they might want to trade... him but there doesn't seem to be suitors... ever wonder why?
- BorjeFan4Ever

So I am either assuming that you are only about 5 months old.. or that you are a new fan to hockey...

I'm pretty sure there was a ton of interest in Roy at the deadline but no body wanted to pay the high cost that Regier demanded...

For f*%Ks sake we got a first rounder for Paul Gaustad.. Roy's name was connected to LA and Dustin Brown.. to Colorado and Paul Stastny, to Montreal, to Nashville, and even to TB and Ryan Malone.

Welcome to hockey son.. the point of the game is to put the puck in the opposing team's net more than they put it in yours... you use ice skates.. and carry a big stick.