And to think, reports that Dustin Brown was being shopped this year before the deadline. If this was true and there was a chance for any team to get him he made a lot of GM look stupid for not pulling the trigger. Then again I am sure there was a big return for his services. I have been a fan of his for a long time. Really, really good all round player. He is the example of a player that the isles need, and is worth trading away a few young player or picks. Congrats Kings impressive cup run.

on another note how pissed is Jack Johnson good luck in Columbus. Also Trent Hunter possible even though he couldn't skate anymore or score. Being a healthy scratch and getting a ring is better then getting cut from the team.

And to think, reports that Dustin Brown was being shopped this year before the deadline. If this was true and there was a chance for any team to get him he made a lot of GM look stupid for not pulling the trigger. Then again I am sure there was a big return for his services. I have been a fan of his for a long time. Really, really good all round player. He is the example of a player that the isles need, and is worth trading away a few young player or picks. Congrats Kings impressive cup run.
- BOBBYBOWS

Brown and Scuderi are warriors. Isles use to have guys like these two.

Honestly Scuderi is the only defensive defensemen I woul want on my top2. His offense could use alot of work, but he's so sound defensively and clearing, it makes his teams life easier

A good comparison for Murray I think would be a better offensive Scuderi. Great positioning and stick work, will throw a hit here and there, can clear the puck flawlessly and is so sound and calm with few defensive mistakes

Brown and Scuderi are warriors. Isles use to have guys like these two.
- ses111

Really hoping Scuderi brings the Cup home to LI. I know when he won it with the Pens he brought it down to Newbridge Arena.

Dee he was playing on the fourth line in the SEL against grown ass men. Those are normal numbers for a player of his age. When he played against his peers he was very dynamic and had a great WJC.

You cannot build a winner soley through the draft. Dean Lombardi was hired as GM of the Kings around the same time as Snow was made isles GM in 2006. Yes the Kings have drafted some key players, but it was the additions of Richards, Carter, Gagne, etc etc. The Kings are the perfect example.........drafted well, and sprinkled in top players through trades. The isles started the rebuild the same year, and have yet to make the playoffs.

Seems to me a trade this year, is a must. Garth needs to stop hiding behind the "rebuild" and make a move. Noone is saying to dump all the prospects, but the next step are adding legit vets. The only way they can do that is through trades.
- kindlyrick

Exactly. The "rebuild" must be supplemented with productive, experienced veterans. You can't just run kids and useless, unproductive space holders for vets out there and expect to win.

That being said, I'm not keen on trading this years first rounder. The isles are not close enough to being a contender to give up that high of a pick for one veteran contributor. Unless the draft order changes, its looking like Ryan Murray is going to fall in the Isles' lap.

Dee he was playing on the fourth line in the SEL against grown ass men. Those are normal numbers for a player of his age. When he played against his peers he was very dynamic and had a great WJC.
- NYI78

Move up tp get Murray!!!He's the real deal...

Exactly. The "rebuild" must be supplemented with productive, experienced veterans. You can't just run kids and useless, unproductive space holders for vets out there and expect to win.

That being said, I'm not keen on trading this years first rounder. The isles are not close enough to being a contender to give up that high of a pick for one veteran contributor. Unless the draft order changes, its looking like Ryan Murray is going to fall in the Isles' lap.
- Jethro09

All draft picks are a crap shoot........5 years later, its time our GM finally puts his touches on this team, and doesnt go for the status quo move, year after year. Garth needs to stop hiding behind the rebuild term, and has to finally manage the team. Anyone (ourselves included) can draft a "possible" NHLer from the draft. A real GM decides what holes must be filled and goes out and does it. This team needs 2 or 3 vet NHLers and they will make the playoffs. Sign one and trade for one.........obviously the trading for one will require to give up some assets, but its time. How anyone can say otherwise does not truly understand whats going on.

The truth is, the isles will simply draft the best player avail, whoever that is. ITs not because thats the best move for the team, its the easiest move (without sticking your neck out and having to be accountable), and its the cheapest.........thats the bottom line.

You cannot build a winner soley through the draft. Dean Lombardi was hired as GM of the Kings around the same time as Snow was made isles GM in 2006. Yes the Kings have drafted some key players, but it was the additions of Richards, Carter, Gagne, etc etc. The Kings are the perfect example.........drafted well, and sprinkled in top players through trades. The isles started the rebuild the same year, and have yet to make the playoffs.
- kindlyrick

The Kings won only six more games than the Isles and scored nine less goals, they were an unlikely 8th seed.

The sprinkled in Carter and Richards, two front-loaded ten plus year disaster contracts from Philadelphia (one via Columbus for Jack Johnson) Ed Snider kicked off the Flyers because he needed to pay another goalie front-loaded to not make any big saves. Lombardi went through a lot of coaches, his team was barely an 8th seed that struggled.

Wayne Simmonds and Brayden Schenn for Richards was a terrible trade. You don't trade Jack Johnson and a conditional first round pick.

Lombardi did his Milbury-like moves and it paid off, many professional media felt he would be fired if he did not make the playoffs.

The Kings won only six more games than the Isles and scored nine less goals, they were an unlikely 8th seed.

The sprinkled in Carter and Richards, two front-loaded ten plus year disaster contracts from Philadelphia (one via Columbus for Jack Johnson) Ed Snider kicked off the Flyers because he needed to pay another goalie front-loaded to not make any big saves. Lombardi went through a lot of coaches, his team was barely an 8th seed that struggled.

Wayne Simmonds and Brayden Schenn for Richards was a terrible trade. You don't trade Jack Johnson and a conditional first round pick.

Lombardi did his Milbury-like moves and it paid off, many professional media felt he would be fired if he did not make the playoffs.
- NYI

What are you saying..........to answer all of your statements, the LA Kings won the stanley cup last night. Dean Lombardi, built the team that did so........what argument can you possibly make?????

Move up tp get Murray!!!He's the real deal...
- kear20

Trade the pick for a top 3 dman.........thats the real need!

Really hoping Scuderi brings the Cup home to LI. I know when he won it with the Pens he brought it down to Newbridge Arena.
- eichiefs9

Friend used to play with him before he went pro, nice huy.

What are you saying..........to answer all of your statements, the LA Kings won the stanley cup last night. Dean Lombardi, built the team that did so........what argument can you possibly make?????
- kindlyrick

I'm writing it was not this home grown development system or the most conventional trades for great talent that won it for them. It was more like the 2001-02 Milbury rebuilding plan but with a few more prospects.

They just happened to get hot at the right time, and got some breaks along the way in overtime.

The Kings won only six more games than the Isles and scored nine less goals, they were an unlikely 8th seed.

The sprinkled in Carter and Richards, two front-loaded ten plus year disaster contracts from Philadelphia (one via Columbus for Jack Johnson) Ed Snider kicked off the Flyers because he needed to pay another goalie front-loaded to not make any big saves. Lombardi went through a lot of coaches, his team was barely an 8th seed that struggled.

Wayne Simmonds and Brayden Schenn for Richards was a terrible trade. You don't trade Jack Johnson and a conditional first round pick.

Lombardi did his Milbury-like moves and it paid off, many professional media felt he would be fired if he did not make the playoffs.
- NYI

Again, Lombardi that horrible GM. What an idiot stanley cup winning moron

What are you saying..........to answer all of your statements, the LA Kings won the stanley cup last night. Dean Lombardi, built the team that did so........what argument can you possibly make?????
- kindlyrick

Oh he can make one, and he will.

I'm writing it was not this home grown development system or the most conventional trades for great talent that won it for them. It was more like the 2001-02 Milbury rebuilding plan but with a few more prospects.

They just happened to get hot at the right time, and got some breaks along the way in overtime.
- NYI

OK, this has to be someone trolling

I'm writing it was not this home grown development system or the most conventional trades for great talent that won it for them. It was more like the 2001-02 Milbury rebuilding plan but with a few more prospects.

They just happened to get hot at the right time, and got some breaks along the way in overtime.
- NYI

The same way every Cup winning team gets hot at the right time? Dude they won the cup, and Lombardi made the winning roster.....there is no argument.

Trade the pick for a top 3 dman.........thats the real need!
- kindlyrick

Who do you want?

Throw out some ideas!!!!

All draft picks are a crap shoot........5 years later, its time our GM finally puts his touches on this team, and doesnt go for the status quo move, year after year. Garth needs to stop hiding behind the rebuild term, and has to finally manage the team. Anyone (ourselves included) can draft a "possible" NHLer from the draft. A real GM decides what holes must be filled and goes out and does it. This team needs 2 or 3 vet NHLers and they will make the playoffs. Sign one and trade for one.........obviously the trading for one will require to give up some assets, but its time. How anyone can say otherwise does not truly understand whats going on..
- kindlyrick

A real gm goes out and does it? There are virtually no big trades made in the NHL anymore (especially in summer or at the draft) unless it's a team with a front-loaded disaster contract they want to dump in a league full of NTC/NVC. (Gomez, Richards, Carter)

Snow may have made the last big summer trade for Wisniewski.

The truth is, the isles will simply draft the best player avail, whoever that is. ITs not because thats the best move for the team, its the easiest move (without sticking your neck out and having to be accountable), and its the cheapest.........thats the bottom line.
- kindlyrick

The bottom line is the players you want in trades all come with a mountain of baggage and are not helping the teams they are on so that's why they are available.

What's cheap about a max entry level contract?

The Kings won only six more games than the Isles and scored nine less goals, they were an unlikely 8th seed.

The sprinkled in Carter and Richards, two front-loaded ten plus year disaster contracts from Philadelphia (one via Columbus for Jack Johnson) Ed Snider kicked off the Flyers because he needed to pay another goalie front-loaded to not make any big saves. Lombardi went through a lot of coaches, his team was barely an 8th seed that struggled.

Wayne Simmonds and Brayden Schenn for Richards was a terrible trade. You don't trade Jack Johnson and a conditional first round pick.

Lombardi did his Milbury-like moves and it paid off, many professional media felt he would be fired if he did not make the playoffs.
- NYI

What is your hang-up with "front-loaded contracts"? Who cares if they are "front-loaded"? What significance does it have if the contracts are front-loaded? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the contracts carry the same cap hit each year for the life of the contract even if they are front-loaded?

You keep mentioning these front-loaded contracts in your posts as if they are evil. They are clearly becoming popular among NHL GM's in the NHL. Its the way teams are doing business. If there are teams out there that can't or won't front-load contracts, they're going to miss out of some UFA's.

By taking on Ed Snider's "bad contracts", LA won a cup. Lombardi got results. Carter and Richards made important contributions.

Lombardi made some trades that not too many GM's would do.

But... he needed to have the prospect pool to do it.

Maybe the Isles follow the Kings game plan.

Keep stocking the shelves with prospects... then use them to fill in the spots they need through trade.

Maybe this whole build the team through the draft scheme actually works....

The same way every Cup winning team gets hot at the right time? Dude they won the cup, and Lombardi made the winning roster.....there is no argument.
- kindlyrick

This was the only 8th seed in history to win a cup, let's not act like it was pure genius because the team underachieved and the gm according to the press in Los Angeles reported Lombardi was close to being fired by his second team in California.

Garth Snow can call up Colmubus tomorrow and go for Wisniewski's 36 million dollar contract and offer his first rounder and deHaan, if the team wins that does not mean it was brilliant.

I'm writing it was not this home grown development system or the most conventional trades for great talent that won it for them. It was more like the 2001-02 Milbury rebuilding plan but with a few more prospects.

They just happened to get hot at the right time, and got some breaks along the way in overtime.
- NYI

Thirteen players on the Kings' active roster were drafted by the Kings, home-grown players. At least two players were traded for using prospects drafted by the Kings as compensation. That's a pretty significant home-grown percentage.

This was the only 8th seed in history to win a cup, let's not act like it was pure genius because the team underachieved and the gm according to the press in Los Angeles reported Lombardi was close to being fired by his second team in California.

Garth Snow can call up Colmubus tomorrow and go for Wisniewski's 36 million dollar contract and offer his first rounder and deHaan, if the team wins that does not mean it was brilliant.
- NYI

He won a cup, it was brilliant. This team was an eight seed and won a cup, very convincingly I might add. Do you see what you're saying here?