Makes a big difference, Komi can still play hockey and is almost half the cap hit of gomez. Komi and Ballard are in the same boat, gomez is with Redden.
- yea-ok-buddy

It will be interesting to see if Carlyle can revive his career. Keep your fingers crossed. IIRC, he was given added icetime under the new coach.

But right now, Komi is a liability, not an asset.

what difference does that make?

there are better options to reach the cap floor in the free agent pool.. man.. you guys need to simply accept it, unless a buyout option is added to the next CBA.. komi is going to be plugging up a roster spot for at least another year
- Dozzer

He's a stay at home D...so is Schenn...call them pylons, it's the same thing...their job is to hit like snot and clear the view for the goalie, and hopefully clear the puck out of the zone with a first pass...hopefully under Randy, they won't have their D partner past centre ice already so they'll have some support(like someone else has already stated)...if they have some system support and do ONLY what Burke hired them to do, they'll be fine and the goalie will benefit as well

thats what Im thinking...just dont know how I feel about the IA career path...dont know enough about it
- noename09

You either ...
(A) Know a lot of people with dough
(B) Buy an existing book
(C) Or it's one hell of a lot of cold calling and grinding out business !

disagree whole heartedly.. komi was minus 13 last year

he's a "shutdown" defenseman

shutdown D-men with minus ratings are not worth much of anything.
- Dozzer

OR... Shutdown Defencemen with a minus rating are not actually not shutdown defencemen at ll?

disagree whole heartedly.. komi was minus 13 last year

he's a "shutdown" defenseman

shutdown D-men with minus ratings are not worth much of anything.
- Dozzer

Komi was better then Schenn, Franson, and Gardiner before he broke is arm. (frank) he was leading the NHL in plus minus for over a month

Komisarek is definitely impossible to move, even in a trade for Luongo. Unfortunately the reality is we are stuck with him.

We just have to hope he can buy into and be a decent part of Carlyle's new defence first system which should work for him better.
- thatwimpydeer

He's not impossible to trade. Close though.

We'd need a team that has an equally useless component.

OR... Shutdown Defencemen with a minus rating are not actually not shutdown defencemen at ll?
- PTVinnyMac

If this is true are whole team is poopty because of plus minus.

He's a stay at home D...so is Schenn...call them pylons, it's the same thing...their job is to hit like snot and clear the view for the goalie, and hopefully clear the puck out of the zone with a first pass...hopefully under Randy, they won't have their D partner past centre ice already so they'll have some support(like someone else has already stated)...if they have some system support and do ONLY what Burke hired them to do, they'll be fine and the goalie will benefit as well
- JIMI-JAMES

I actually thought Schenn looked worse under Carlyle, but that was probably just due to the fact that the poor kid had no confidence left.

Once again, keep your fingers crossed...

Komi was better then Schenn, Franson, and Gardiner before he broke is arm. (frank) he was leading the NHL in plus minus for over a month
- yea-ok-buddy

Sarcasm maybe?

Sarcasm maybe?
- A_Tree

I don't know how long actually but I remember he was for a bit.

thats what Im thinking...just dont know how I feel about the IA career path...dont know enough about it
- noename09

Starting as an assistant is a good way to get into it ... If you get your license and handle some of the trading for the adviser you work for , they often pay you a small piece of their commission (0.55 to 1.0%) which on top of a salary can lead to a very decent wage !

So Komi is a great value at $4.5 million, because he was a healthy scratch for only 25% of the games for which he was healthy enough to play for?

Really?

Is there another player in the league who was a healthy scratch for 25% last year, who made over $3 million?
- Atomic Wedgie

Cap hit is $4.5M, salary is $3.5M for both remaining seasons. That's not a horridle contract given what players have been signing for these past few seasons.

Dude, THE GUY BROKE HIS (frank)IN' ARM! Have you ever broken your arm before? If so, you know that it takes t-i-m-e!

Even IF Komisarek was a healthy scratch it wasn't due to poor play as you are alluding to, it was due to the fact that he was recovering from a significant injury and given the Leafs' depth on D having the luxury of 8 NHL calibre d-men, there was no need to rush him back early so that he could fully and properly heal.

If you don't like Komisarek that's one thing, just say so, but don't try to spin bullpoop to support a weak arguement.

The Titanic was a ship not a boat *whistles with hands in pocket and walks away*
- LeafMan

and the Titanic was a bad example anyways...cause the Titanic was actually an attractive ship with much to offer, but sank. Thats like a player who was once really good, and just tailed off....Komisarek is more like a boat that was always kinda sucky, but looked better with a paint job at once point...

He's not impossible to trade. Close though.

We'd need a team that has an equally useless component.
- A_Tree

Find a terrible player on a small market team with a $5 million cap hit for the next two years, but without a NMC.

Leafs pay $10 million for next two years for a guy to play on the Marlies.

"Other team" pays $7 million for next two years for Komi to play (and sit) for them.

We gain $9 million in cap space.

Other team saves $3 million in actual dollars.

That's how I see it working.

thats what Im thinking...just dont know how I feel about the IA career path...dont know enough about it
- noename09

But if you really want to have fun ... Get into Institutional trading

Where alcoholism isn't just condoned , it's recommended !

He's not impossible to trade. Close though.

We'd need a team that has an equally useless component.
- A_Tree

Komi for Horcoff. LETS DO THIS.

He's a stay at home D...so is Schenn...call them pylons, it's the same thing...their job is to hit like snot and clear the view for the goalie, and hopefully clear the puck out of the zone with a first pass...hopefully under Randy, they won't have their D partner past centre ice already so they'll have some support(like someone else has already stated)...if they have some system support and do ONLY what Burke hired them to do, they'll be fine and the goalie will benefit as well
- JIMI-JAMES

i do agree with this.. guys like komi and schenn should have good years

in theory anyways.

You either ...
(A) Know a lot of people with dough
(B) Buy an existing book
(C) Or it's one hell of a lot of cold calling and grinding out business !
- .HOHO.

hmm

inside scoop:

komi also got married this summer and will be a new man next year, YOU WATCH!!!!

Cap hit is $4.5M, salary is $3.5M for both remaining seasons. That's not a horridle contract given what players have been signing for these past few seasons.

Dude, THE GUY BROKE HIS (frank)IN' ARM! Have you ever broken your arm before? If so, you know that it takes t-i-m-e!

Even IF Komisarek was a healthy scratch it wasn't due to poor play as you are alluding to, it was due to the fact that he was recovering from a significant injury and given the Leafs' depth on D having the luxury of 8 NHL calibre d-men, there was no need to rush him back early so that he could fully and properly heal.

If you don't like Komisarek that's one thing, just say so, but don't try to spin bullpoop to support a weak arguement.
- As_I_See_It

No.

Cap hit is $4.5M, salary is $3.5M for both remaining seasons. That's not a horridle contract given what players have been signing for these past few seasons.

Dude, THE GUY BROKE HIS (frank)IN' ARM! Have you ever broken your arm before? If so, you know that it takes t-i-m-e!

Even IF Komisarek was a healthy scratch it wasn't due to poor play as you are alluding to, it was due to the fact that he was recovering from a significant injury and given the Leafs' depth on D having the luxury of 8 NHL calibre d-men, there was no need to rush him back early so that he could fully and properly heal.

If you don't like Komisarek that's one thing, just say so, but don't try to spin bullpoop to support a weak arguement.
- As_I_See_It

In 2010-11, Mike Komisarek averaged 13:37 in ice time per game, good for 6th amongst Leafs defencemen.

Sorry.

inside scoop:

komi also got married this summer and will be a new man next year, YOU WATCH!!!!
- big_dion

He's probably so happy Wilson is gone and he got married.

inside scoop:

komi also got married this summer and will be a new man next year, YOU WATCH!!!!
- big_dion

He's probably so happy Wilson is gone and he got married.

Cap hit is $4.5M, salary is $3.5M for both remaining seasons. That's not a horridle contract given what players have been signing for these past few seasons.

Dude, THE GUY BROKE HIS (frank)IN' ARM! Have you ever broken your arm before? If so, you know that it takes t-i-m-e!

Even IF Komisarek was a healthy scratch it wasn't due to poor play as you are alluding to, it was due to the fact that he was recovering from a significant injury and given the Leafs' depth on D having the luxury of 8 NHL calibre d-men, there was no need to rush him back early so that he could fully and properly heal.

If you don't like Komisarek that's one thing, just say so, but don't try to spin bullpoop to support a weak arguement.
- As_I_See_It

big whoop on the broken arm.. that doesnt explain away the first two years.

you guys are spinning the only possible scenario you can think of.. which is that some GM is still willing to pay a guy 3.5million to play bottom pairing minutes

its a fools hope, i am sorry, but its true

Find a terrible player on a small market team with a $5 million cap hit for the next two years, but without a NMC.

Leafs pay $10 million for next two years for a guy to play on the Marlies.

"Other team" pays $7 million for next two years for Komi to play (and sit) for them.

We gain $9 million in cap space.

Other team saves $3 million in actual dollars.

That's how I see it working.
- Atomic Wedgie

Sounds good. Write it up.