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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 8 @ 1:17 PM ET
no soccer talk will be had during the euro cup, Lou will break out the ban hammer, fully funded by big_d

-you have been warned!

- big_dion

Oi Republic of Ireland ftw.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 8 @ 1:17 PM ET
This is so absolutely incorrect, it's laughable.
- Fosco

Yet you are trolling on a Leafs thread, and not shooting down ideas like accepting Komisarek and Connolly in a trade.

But I love a man who exudes inner confidence.

It's darn sexy.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jun 8 @ 1:18 PM ET
no soccer talk will be had during the euro cup, Lou will break out the ban hammer, fully funded by big_d

-you have been warned!

- big_dion



Greece is losing.

Now they're tied...
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 8 @ 1:18 PM ET
Komisarek and a 6 or 7th rounder moves you up a spot in the top 5? Or did I read that wrong?
- GuyLaDouche

Probably a 3rd rounder, in 2013 and Komi might get you a move to 4 from 5. I would be in favour of this, because it would be an easier move from 4 to 2, if you can make that deal.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 8 @ 1:18 PM ET
I don't think it's a matter of either/or.

If the picks/prospects are good, the Canucks will take a bad contract.

They won't take guys like Armstrong/Connolly without getting something of value, as well.

Taking the bad contract is only to alleviate Lou's cap hit, the good young player/prospect/pick will be the asset that is traded FOR Luongo.

- Fosco


you need to understand the position gillis is in, luongo's contract nullifies his value as a player

you wont be getting a positive return on that contract.. no chance.

you will either take a minimal return, or pay with your own prospects / picks to salary dump him

them the ropes of the cap era NHL.. many deals have occured to support my argument, you'd be hard pressed to name even one deal where a lifetime contract or even just an overpriced one got moved for a gain by the team moving the bad deal
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 8 @ 1:18 PM ET
Greece is losing.
- A_Tree


no they arent.. its 1-1
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 8 @ 1:19 PM ET
here's a list of approved training places

https://www.fpsc.ca/core-...rriculum-educators/legacy

then you'll have to register through the FPSC and finish their curriculum requirements and their exams

- ILoveLamp


im not too worried about the training needed etc....its the actual job that im unsure of.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 8 @ 1:19 PM ET
Greece is losing.
- A_Tree

Not anymore - cheap goal to tie it.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jun 8 @ 1:19 PM ET
no they arent.. its 1-1
- Dozzer



Fixed
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jun 8 @ 1:20 PM ET
Probably a 3rd rounder, in 2013 and Komi might get you a move to 4 from 5. I would be in favour of this, because it would be an easier move from 4 to 2, if you can make that deal.
- PrinceLH

My point was Komi negatively impacts the value of a trade package. Take him out of it completely and the deal gets better.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 8 @ 1:20 PM ET
im not too worried about the training needed etc....its the actual job that im unsure of.
- noename09

Can you get into the insurance side, too?

That's easy money once you develop a book. Basically get people to re-up every year, and watch the money roll in.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 8 @ 1:20 PM ET
Fixed
- A_Tree


jnwood2517
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 01.27.2009

Jun 8 @ 1:20 PM ET
Mike Augello: Toronto Trail 3-0 In Calder Cup Final After Unfortunate Overtime Goal
- mikeinbuffalo

It was an unfortunate goal, but Norfolk outplayed the Marlies for the vast majority of that game. They controlled the puck, forechecked well, killed penalties like it was a joke. The Marlies didn't really deserve to win.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 8 @ 1:21 PM ET
I like Dangle, but he can be a bit of a twit. I am kinda suprized that is the only thing you found wrong with my post.
- Artyukhin76

You can't change the outcome, it was a huge error by the officials. Only beef I have is,

1) The league issued a statement acknowledging the mistake but no apology

2) The league could have apologized to the fans who paid money and were at that moment ripped off because of this huge error. A simple, "we apologize to the fans that the OT goal of this important game was due to a mistake on our part".
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 8 @ 1:21 PM ET
Probably a 3rd rounder, in 2013 and Komi might get you a move to 4 from 5. I would be in favour of this, because it would be an easier move from 4 to 2, if you can make that deal.
- PrinceLH

Trading Komi would mean moving down, not up.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 1:21 PM ET
Yet you are trolling on a Leafs thread, and not shooting down ideas like accepting Komisarek and Connolly in a trade.

But I love a man who exudes inner confidence.

It's darn sexy.

- Atomic Wedgie


You can look at every single one of my posts. I haven't trolled once.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 8 @ 1:22 PM ET
Take that back Dangle is a genius just ask every idiot around
- AdamFrench

I rest my case.
ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 8 @ 1:23 PM ET
No questions at all.. wilson's system was a grave yard for stay at home D

he tried a run and gun approach because of the pathetic size of the forwards and it f'd everything up throughout the lineup

- Dozzer



You could see an obvious disconnect between Burke and Wilson. Burke was loading the back end with big bodies to clear the front of the net and clog the corners and boards, while Wilson was trying to make them mobile on the fly D. None of them really played that way in their careers, other than Gardiner and maybe Liles. Wilson tried having Schenn and Komi cover for their D partner rushing like a 4th forward. It lead to a ton of odd man rushes, bumbled plays, lack of support, and a complete breakdown of confidence
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 1:24 PM ET
you need to understand the position gillis is in, luongo's contract nullifies his value as a player

you wont be getting a positive return on that contract.. no chance.

you will either take a minimal return, or pay with your own prospects / picks to salary dump him

them the ropes of the cap era NHL.. many deals have occured to support my argument, you'd be hard pressed to name even one deal where a lifetime contract or even just an overpriced one got moved for a gain by the team moving the bad deal

- Dozzer


Sorry, I disagree. I'm off, as It looks like I'm making at least one Leaf poster a bit touchy. Have a good day, all.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jun 8 @ 1:24 PM ET
Trading Komi would mean moving down, not up.
- Atomic Wedgie


This.

Now please no more talk of trading him for an "upgrade", because it isn't happening.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 8 @ 1:25 PM ET
Sorry, I disagree. I'm off, as It looks like I'm making at least one Leaf poster a bit touchy. Have a good day, all.
- Fosco

No, come back!

You are adding so much insight!
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 8 @ 1:26 PM ET
excellent post. love the bolded.

people need to learn that regular healthy scratches with massive contrats do not hold value. Komisarek has less value than Tomas Kaberle. well, maybe it's a push.

- DoubleDown


While your statement is generally true, it doesn't apply to Komisarek this season. What "people need to learn" is how to do some research...

- Komisarek played 45 games this season - Fact.
- Komisarek broke his arm and missed nearly 3 months Mid Nov. - Mid Feb. - Fact.
- While Komisarek was injured, the Leafs played 37 games - Fact.
- Add Komisarek's GP (45) and games missed due to injury (37) = 82 - Fact.
- There are 82 games in the NHL regular season - Fact.

So my question to you is, how many games do you think Komisarek was scratched for this season?

Ding. Ding. Class dismissed... FACT!
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jun 8 @ 1:26 PM ET
No, come back!

You are adding so much insight!

- Atomic Wedgie

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 8 @ 1:27 PM ET
Sorry, I disagree. I'm off, as It looks like I'm making at least one Leaf poster a bit touchy. Have a good day, all.
- Fosco


ok.. have a good one.. nice to have an honest convo with a nuck fan tho

cheers
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jun 8 @ 1:28 PM ET
While your statement is generally true, it doesn't apply to Komisarek this season. What "people need to learn" is how to do some research...

- Komisarek played 45 games this season - Fact.
- Komisarek broke his arm and missed nearly 3 months Mid Nov. - Mid Feb. - Fact.
- While Komisarek was injured, the Leafs played 37 games - Fact.
- Add Komisarek's GP (45) and games missed due to injury (37) = 82 - Fact.
- There are 82 games in the NHL regular season - Fact.

So my question to you is, how many games do you think Komisarek was scratched for this season?

Ding. Ding. Class dismissed... FACT!

- As_I_See_It

His trade value, if any, is minimal. Just accept this.
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