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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 11:23 AM ET
Is there a draft coming up? I hadn't noticed.
- Cfser

not for the Leafs, all traded
Cfser
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Anyone who claims insider know
Joined: 07.26.2006

Jun 8 @ 11:27 AM ET
not for the Leafs, all traded
- bobbyisno1


Hey were 8 days into June and still have our first round pick for this year.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:30 AM ET
In todays news...
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 8 @ 11:31 AM ET
I think we need another draft blog on the front page of HB.
- LeafMan


who cares.. we're trading up to number two and getting shultz for nothing..

i think we need to give up the 5th and schenn to do it

at least thats my take on the morning lol

hows it going LM?
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:35 AM ET
Nor does yours. I'm sure interested GMs have their own values attached to potential acquisitions, and many have shown in the past they're willing to take risks with plan B, than pay through the nose for all the risks associated with plan A.
- p_zub


I never gave my opinion on Luongo, other than saying what he won't go for...

And since the Leafs don't have a 3rd round pick at this point (which was part of the proposal I originally responded to), it's a fact, not an opinion.
ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:35 AM ET
Forsberg? the guy that had like all of 18 goals last year
- bobbyisno1


It was 17 points in 43 games in one of their top professional leagues.
Pretty impressive actually for a 17 year old playing in a pro hockey league that primarily consists of men in their hockey prime.

When matched against people his own age, Forsberg is over a PPG player. They moved him up a league due to his skills.

EDIT FYI, when Daniel Sedin was moved into the SEL, he scored 12 points in 45 games. I'm not comparing the two to say Forsberg is that elite. I'm simply saying that moving to a mens league when you're that young, and given limited minutes, your output will be different than it would be over her in our junior leagues
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 8 @ 11:36 AM ET
I never gave my opinion on Luongo, other than saying what he won't go for...

And since the Leafs don't have a 3rd round pick at this point (which was part of the proposal I originally responded to), it's a fact, not an opinion.

- Fosco


IF gillis moves luongo, it wont be for much

great goalie

poope contract

gillis will be trading for cap space and cap space only.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:36 AM ET
If they will take Komi and the 5th for the 4th..... do it, and try and swap the 4th with Columbus for the 2nd, if possible.

Then Galchenyuk is ours

- cor99


Exactly my thoughts.

It seems likely that the Islanders are "the team" that is willing to trade down the Leafs at the the moment. I also think that the Blue Jacks would be a little hesitant to trade down to the 5th given the draft possibilities. However, I also think that the 4th overall gives the Blue Jackets more options at both forward AND defense positions and leaves their options wide open.

That Burke makes two trades to move up into the 2nd overall draft position:
Trade #1 with NYI: To NYI - 5th overall + Komisarek and maye late pick or lower tier prospect <-> To TOR - 4th overall

Trade #2 with CLB: To CLB - 4th overall + ??? <-> To TOR - 2nd overall

The question now is, what is the "+" from Toronto in the trade with Columbus?

Assuming that Burke is successful in these two trades, the top 5 might look somthing like this:
1. Edm. - Yakupov (Clearly the top prospect and obvious choice)
2. Tor. - Galchenyuk (Potential #1C, has size and Burke loves his American's)
3. Mtl. - Grigorenko > Forsberg (Needs a #1C as well, plays in "the Q", could just as easily go with Forsberg here)
4. Clb - Forsberg > Murray > Grigorenko (Shy of Russian's, fills Nash's W)
5. NYI - Murray > Grigorenko > Forsberg > any other D-man (Need D, BPA)

Note: Players underlined are who I think the teams are leaning towards picking.
Players listed in order of interest

By the looks of things all top 5 teams would be able to draft exactly what they needed and 3-5 would all have solid options for their picks.

As fun as it would be to speculate on a 3rd trade with Edmonton, I really don't think that's realistic because I think that these trades would likely happen after Edmonton has made their 1st pick, Yakupov.

Thoughts?...

As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:38 AM ET
Just thinking...

If we were to swap picks with the Islanders, does that make it more attractive for Columbus to trade down with us?

- cor99


I think I've just answered your question, see above ^
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:39 AM ET
I hope burke goes after a goalie with the 2nd rounder.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:41 AM ET
IF gillis moves luongo, it wont be for much

great goalie

poope contract

gillis will be trading for cap space and cap space only.

- Dozzer


Sorry, I disagree. I've stated all along that the Canucks will likely have to take an undesirable salary back in order to get something of value, but Lou won't be just a salary dump.

edit: cap-space is useless when there are no quality UFA's to fill it.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 8 @ 11:43 AM ET
I hope burke goes after a goalie with the 2nd rounder.
- A_Tree


I think Reimer and Luongo will wonder what direction his going in, if that were the case
cor99
Location: ON
Joined: 07.15.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
I hope burke goes after a goalie with the 2nd rounder.
- A_Tree


I really wouldnt mind Subban or that russian goalie, but we would likely have to trade up to get them
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
who cares.. we're trading up to number two and getting shultz for nothing..

i think we need to give up the 5th and schenn to do it

at least thats my take on the morning lol

hows it going LM?

- Dozzer

Hi, busy, busy, busy, posted message then off to the school, lucky it is a three minute walk from the house.

Should be very interesting between June 22 to July 2nd-3rd around here.

How is it going for you today, get some sleep?
p_zub
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:47 AM ET
I never gave my opinion on Luongo, other than saying what he won't go for...

And since the Leafs don't have a 3rd round pick at this point (which was part of the proposal I originally responded to), it's a fact, not an opinion.

- Fosco


Until he gets traded and we know what for...that is a...*drumroll*....OPINION!!!!
PTVinnyMac
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Big Vin Dog... Ya Damn Straigh, ON
Joined: 04.13.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:48 AM ET
Sorry, I disagree. I've stated all along that the Canucks will likely have to take an undesirable salary back in order to get something of value, but Lou won't be just a salary dump.

edit: cap-space is useless when there are no quality UFA's to fill it.

- Fosco


K.... Luongo & Van's 2012 1st for Kulemin, Komisarek and Tornto's 3rd 2013...

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 8 @ 11:48 AM ET
Sorry, I disagree. I've stated all along that the Canucks will likely have to take an undesirable salary back in order to get something of value, but Lou won't be just a salary dump.

edit: cap-space is useless when there are no quality UFA's to fill it.

- Fosco


see i dont see the logic in that..

why would you move a useful player like luongo, who has a hefty hit, but not overly burdensome for a player who has the same hit but is being moved because he severely underachieves?

if i were the nucks, i'd just hang onto luongo, at least that way you get good play for the money you spend.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:48 AM ET
Trade #1 with NYI: To NYI - 5th overall + Komisarek and maye late pick or lower tier prospect <-> To TOR - 4th overall

Trade #2 with CLB: To CLB - 4th overall + ??? <-> To TOR - 2nd overall.

- As_I_See_It



Islanders aren't taking Komisarek, especially not while trading down.Blue Jackets won't take our 5th "+" because if anything the price would be too much "+++". If anything both aforementioned teams will look to trade up if possible.

Leafs should stick with what they have. Draft a goalie in the second round. Bobs your uncle.
p_zub
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:48 AM ET
I never gave my opinion on Luongo, other than saying what he won't go for...

And since the Leafs don't have a 3rd round pick at this point (which was part of the proposal I originally responded to), it's a fact, not an opinion.

- Fosco


You think the 3rd round pick (or lack thereof) is what would hold up a trade here?
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 11:49 AM ET
Until he gets traded and we know what for...that is a...*drumroll*....OPINION!!!!
- p_zub

hope its not 2 firsts and a second
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:51 AM ET
I really wouldnt mind Subban or that russian goalie, but we would likely have to trade up to get them
- cor99


Vasilevski - Do it Burke.

STATISTICS

SEASON TEAM LEAGUE GP GAA MIN SO SV%
2010-2011 UFA 2 RUSSIA-JR. 14 1.81 730 3 0.937
2011-2012 UFA 2 RUSSIA-JR. 27 2.23 1477 3 0.931

“Vasilevskiy is a terrific athlete with very good biomechanics. His balance points and strong core allow him to seal the ice with a very wide, but very powerful butterfly. This is going to make him look extremely attractive to many NHL teams. The word will spread and he will be highly touted.”


Exceedingly self-assured, Vasilevski exudes the kind of poise teams are looking for in a number one netminder. When one adds in his plus frame and superlative athleticism, it’s going to be hard for many franchises hurting for that elusive top-flight starter to pass on Vasilevski.

His aggressive tendencies to challenge shooters give him the ability to use his size to eclipse nearly the entire net when he so chooses. As a butterfly goaltender, Vasilevski’s athleticism and form are under intense scrutiny from scouts – and he’s passed with flying colors on both accords.

He stays big when in the butterfly and is able to remain powerful with quick, strong lateral movements and excellent balance. With the quickness (both on his feet and with his hands) to deny first and second-chance opportunities and excellent economy of motion plus rebound management, it’s a surprise he’s not more highly rated than he is.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 8 @ 11:52 AM ET
only a few can offer the bonus money that the Leafs can
- bobbyisno1

If (and by if, I mean when) the Leafs, or any other team signs Schultz, it will be to an entry level contact, meaning there are restrictions and limits to the amount of bonuses.

So the Leafs really don't have any advantage here.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 8 @ 11:55 AM ET
Islanders aren't taking Komisarek, especially not while trading down.Blue Jackets won't take our 5th "+" because if anything the price would be too much "+++". If anything both aforementioned teams will look to trade up if possible.

Leafs should stick with what they have. Draft a goalie in the second round. Bobs your uncle.

- A_Tree

It's Friday, why you gotta be like that?

Many, many teams would love to have Komisarek. Veteran presence, great in the dressing room, and most importantly, he's a fantastic asset to have if you need to reach the salary cap floor.

PTVinnyMac
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Big Vin Dog... Ya Damn Straigh, ON
Joined: 04.13.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:56 AM ET

**EDIT**

Islanders aren't taking Komisarek, especially not while trading down.Blue Jackets won't take our 5th "+" because if anything the price would be too much "+++". If anything both aforementioned teams will look to trade up if possible.

Leafs should stick with what they have. Draft a goalie in the second round. Bobbyno1's your uncle.

- A_Tree


Fixed that for ya...
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:56 AM ET
Until he gets traded and we know what for...that is a...*drumroll*....OPINION!!!!
- p_zub


The offer I was replying to included a 3rd round pick from the Leafs. The Leafs do not have a 3rd round pick ...*drumroll*...FACT.
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