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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 3 @ 7:17 PM ET
Exactly, so why mention it? That's the issue they're having with injuries. They don't have a cleanup hitter currently.
- MJL


Pence can bat cleanup. He's got 13 homeruns and 35 rbi's. He's doing his job.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 3 @ 7:18 PM ET
Stay patient changes are coming!
- stveshdy


Yes, the change will be Lee will win a game in June, unlike April and May.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 3 @ 7:25 PM ET
Pence can bat cleanup. He's got 13 homeruns and 35 rbi's. He's doing his job.
- PLindbergh31


Then they lack a hitter for the 3 spot. Ruiz who has been batting cleanup some this Season was given a typical day off on Sunday. It's obvious that this lineup is short some bats and hoping for a miracle recovery from Utley and Howard. There's a reason why they have scored 1 run or fewer 12 times this Season.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 3 @ 7:35 PM ET
If the Flyers are going to retain Carle then I wouldn't be interested in Enstrom. I would like a player who is more rounded, with more size and a better defender. Especially if it's going to cost JVR or Schenn in a trade.
- MJL

agreed
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 3 @ 7:48 PM ET
Then they lack a hitter for the 3 spot. Ruiz who has been batting cleanup some this Season was given a typical day off on Sunday. It's obvious that this lineup is short some bats and hoping for a miracle recovery from Utley and Howard. There's a reason why they have scored 1 run or fewer 12 times this Season.
- MJL


I personally dont see Utley and Howard making that much of a difference. The Phillies are going to depend on two players who are coming off of injuries and who havent played baseball in awhile. Just my opinion. They should be better than the current players but im not expecting a dramatic change in their offense.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 3 @ 7:51 PM ET
Yes, the change will be Lee will win a game in June, unlike April and May.
- PLindbergh31


Hopefully. I see Ruben being a seller before the deadline. This team needs a make over imo.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 3 @ 8:46 PM ET
I personally dont see Utley and Howard making that much of a difference. The Phillies are going to depend on two players who are coming off of injuries and who havent played baseball in awhile. Just my opinion. They should be better than the current players but im not expecting a dramatic change in their offense.
- stveshdy


I agree with you, but we'll see. Utley won't have his legs under him, maybe not ever again, and will have a hard time driving the ball. He'll be a good player, but won't ever be Utley again as we knew him. And Howard had a severe injury that may take a full year to recover from.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 3 @ 8:51 PM ET
I agree with you, but we'll see. Utley won't have his legs under him, maybe not ever again, and will have a hard time driving the ball. He'll be a good player, but won't ever be Utley again as we knew him. And Howard had a severe injury that may take a full year to recover from.
- MJL


Exactly. I think Ruben is going to sell off some of these players by the deadline. Its time for a change and a new look of players.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 3 @ 8:52 PM ET
Exactly. I think Ruben is going to sell off some of these players by the deadline. Its time for a change and a new look of players.
- stveshdy

And, more importantly, a youth movement and a future. Which this team has neither of.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 3 @ 8:59 PM ET
And, more importantly, a youth movement and a future. Which this team has neither of.
- Giroux_Is_God


Heres the guys to keep: Howard, Galvis, Ruiz, Pence, Lee, Hamels, Worley, Papelbon, Bastardo

The rest need to be moved.

Its time to bring up Dominic Brown also. Either he is ready or its time to move him. The Phillies always seem to wait forever to bring up players and just let them play. They have not done a good job of handling Brown.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 3 @ 9:13 PM ET
Heres the guys to keep: Howard, Galvis, Ruiz, Pence, Lee, Hamels, Worley, Papelbon, Bastardo

The rest need to be moved.

Its time to bring up Dominic Brown also. Either he is ready or its time to move him. The Phillies always seem to wait forever to bring up players and just let them play. They have not done a good job of handling Brown.

- stveshdy


I think there's a really good chance that Hamels is gone. I think he wants to play on a team that is more up and coming and ready to win right away. This Phillies era is nearing the end. If you can't sign him, need to move him for something before he walks. If you can sign Hamels, I trade Cliff Lee
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 3 @ 9:51 PM ET
For what its worth as someone who sees the Jets lots living in Winnipeg..

It WILL cost you a Schenn or JVR type of player to get Enstrom.

A lot of the time its not how good a player truly is, its what his worth is to the team. Without Enstrom the Jets are a much weaker club, and it remains to be seen how good of a chance they have a attracting free agents.

They just dealt Oduya away.

If you are talking about the Jets a player that could be had, in a package or a one-player deal is Evander Kane. There have been numerous reports he does not like the city and wants out.

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 3 @ 9:54 PM ET
Due to a lack of hours as a support worker, nutter has found a new job for the summer till my university begins once again. 60 hours a week at this one.

Weed-Man. I spray and fertilize lawns.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 3 @ 10:00 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Silly Season Musings: Enstrom
- bmeltzer


My concern with Enstrom is that he's another smaller guy, who could easily wear down over the season and be less effective in the post season.

Now, if Kimmo Timonen does start the season on LTIR, and is out for awhile...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 3 @ 10:01 PM ET
For what its worth as someone who sees the Jets lots living in Winnipeg..

It WILL cost you a Schenn or JVR type of player to get Enstrom.

A lot of the time its not how good a player truly is, its what his worth is to the team. Without Enstrom the Jets are a much weaker club, and it remains to be seen how good of a chance they have a attracting free agents.

They just dealt Oduya away.

If you are talking about the Jets a player that could be had, in a package or a one-player deal is Evander Kane. There have been numerous reports he does not like the city and wants out.

- flyer_nutter


The Jets shot down Kane for Mike Richards 12 months ago.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 3 @ 10:17 PM ET
My concern with Enstrom is that he's another smaller guy, who could easily wear down over the season and be less effective in the post season.

Now, if Kimmo Timonen does start the season on LTIR, and is out for awhile...

- Jsaquella


Assuming Carle resigns, I agree with others I expect the Flyers to take a run at a d-man with a little more of a physical edge. I just wish Homer could have a "do over" and not trade a 1st round for Eminger and instead draft Carlson. I just think the Flyers are looking for that type of d-man
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 3 @ 10:22 PM ET
Assuming Carle resigns, I agree with others I expect the Flyers to take a run at a d-man with a little more of a physical edge. I just wish Homer could have a "do over" and not trade a 1st round for Eminger and instead draft Carlson. I just think the Flyers are looking for that type of d-man
- ravishingone


It'd be nice to have Carlson right now, no question.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 3 @ 10:38 PM ET
It'd be nice to have Carlson right now, no question.
- Jsaquella


At the end of the season, I thought they would add minor pieces through free agency to supplement the roster. With Snider's comments about how he feels Homer has to focus on defense, I don't think it will be addressed through UFA. Suter is too much like Carle and Garrison has questions about be able to handle heavy minutes long-term.

I believe a pretty significant move is coming, there are certainly many pieces on the active roster that could be packaged to bring back a stud d-man.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 3 @ 10:46 PM ET
At the end of the season, I thought they would add minor pieces through free agency to supplement the roster. With Snider's comments about how he feels Homer has to focus on defense, I don't think it will be addressed through UFA. Suter is too much like Carle and Garrison has questions about be able to handle heavy minutes long-term.

I believe a pretty significant move is coming, there are certainly many pieces on the active roster that could be packaged to bring back a stud d-man.

- ravishingone


It certainly wouldn't surprise me. We may know more around the Draft.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 3 @ 10:57 PM ET
It certainly wouldn't surprise me. We may know more around the Draft.
- MJL


I think it will be a very interesting draft for player movement. There seem to be a decent number of teams who could want to make pretty significant changes. Teams like SJ, Calgary, Minnesota, TB, Det, Col, and Vancouver off the top of my head.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 3 @ 11:07 PM ET
At the end of the season, I thought they would add minor pieces through free agency to supplement the roster. With Snider's comments about how he feels Homer has to focus on defense, I don't think it will be addressed through UFA. Suter is too much like Carle and Garrison has questions about be able to handle heavy minutes long-term.

I believe a pretty significant move is coming, there are certainly many pieces on the active roster that could be packaged to bring back a stud d-man.

- ravishingone



I have that same gut feeling.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 3 @ 11:09 PM ET
First ......I like your idea bill. If they were going the trade route I would like to see them try to get Erik johnson
- griouxmvp2012

I'd like to see a healthy Erik Johnson play for the Flyers. That's a pretty good idea. I said this before and I'll keep saying this, I don't see how the Flyers can walk away from Jagr without a back up plan. We want to upgrade the D, correct? That might mean taking from the offense as it is, to upgrade the D. If the Flyers are serious about going after Weber right now (if possible), I think it's a lock they have to give up a player like JvR, Voracek, Read etc. This is with Jagr already possibly not being wanted here. This hole just gets bigger up front to fill a hole on the back end. I think it's very possibly Jagr comes back because the market this summer is weak when it comes to snipers.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 4 @ 12:02 AM ET
Why isn't anyone talking about Cody Fransen out of TOR? 6'5'' R handed D man with some offense.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 4 @ 7:33 AM ET
Why isn't anyone talking about Cody Fransen out of TOR? 6'5'' R handed D man with some offense.
- coffee junkie

Because our 3-6 is pretty well set. We need to focus on a top pairing type guy.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:57 AM ET
agreed
- isaiah520


disagreed

talk to people around the Jets -- beat writers, bloggers, whomever. They'll all tell you that Enstrom is the best, most-rounded defenseman on that team.

which also means, IMO, that he's probably close to untouchable.
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