I agree. I think Paul Martin is getting a bad reputation for poor play over a few week span (likely due to injury).

They have a solid defensive corps in: Martin, Michalek, Orpik, Letang, Niskanen, Engelland, Despres and Morrow.

They need help on the wing.
- bradleyc4

I disagree... I think Martin is not who they thought they were getting when they signed him.. On top of it, he makes Carle look like Scott Stevens.

Has he been terrible, no.. but he hasnt been that 2 way force they thought he would be IMO.

EDIT: Tots forgot about Niskanen.. if they resign him (RFA) they really will be kinda stacked on D.

I think Niskanen is highly underrated.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.250m)
Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m)
Matt Read ($0.900m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
Tom Sestito ($0.605m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) /Matt Carle ($4.800m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Marc-Andre Bourdon ($1.000m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,851,944; BONUSES: $3,555,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster):$4,148,056 (with bonus cushion) $7,703,056

So basically.. I signed Carle at 4.8 mil, Czechie at 3.25, Bourdon at 1.0, demoted Shelley, and LTIR'd (for all intents and purposes) Pronger.

Its gonna be tough to really add a big name on defense without making a trade.
- jak521

For the in Season Cap, with Pronger on LTIR they would have over 8M in Cap space to play with, based on that.

For the in Season Cap, with Pronger on LTIR they would have over 8M in Cap space to play with, based on that.
- MJL

hmm, not sure where I messed up... is that prior to signing Carle, Czechie, and Bourdon?

hmm, not sure where I messed up... is that prior to signing Carle, Czechie, and Bourdon?
- jak521

Pronger is on LTIR correct? What does that do for you?

Edit: I'm wrong there. You didn't include Pronger so he would have to be added to that total first. I didn't see that at first.

Gonchar is washed up, hes done.

If I were the Flyers I try Myers in Buffalo, because they have an abundance of dmen. Start with JVR+ mid level prospect for him.

I understand that, but in the cap geek thing I dont have him on the roster...

Gonchar is washed up, hes done.

If I were the Flyers I try Myers in Buffalo, because they have an abundance of dmen. Start with JVR+ mid level prospect for him.
- FLYERSROCK!

I mentioned TYMY a week ago.. I would love to have him!

hmm, not sure where I messed up... is that prior to signing Carle, Czechie, and Bourdon?
- jak521

Jak you also forgot to lower Schenns cap hit. As long as he doesnt play 20-25 mins 1st game, his cap hit goes down to 1.75

Jak you also forgot to lower Schenns cap hit. As long as he doesnt play 20-25 mins 1st game, his cap hit goes down to 1.75
- FLYERSROCK!

Thats why there are two totals.. one is with out bonuses and one is with..

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.250m)
Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m)
Matt Read ($0.900m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
Tom Sestito ($0.605m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) /Matt Carle ($4.800m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Marc-Andre Bourdon ($1.000m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,851,944; BONUSES: $3,555,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster):$4,148,056 (with bonus cushion) $7,703,056

So basically.. I signed Carle at 4.8 mil, Czechie at 3.25, Bourdon at 1.0, demoted Shelley, and LTIR'd (for all intents and purposes) Pronger.

Its gonna be tough to really add a big name on defense without making a trade.
- jak521

Just sign garrison. They should have room for that, and that's all they need. I think you can add 1.5 mil of space in there for schenns cap hit.

Just sign garrison. They should have room for that, and that's all they need. I think you can add 1.5 mil of space in there for schenns cap hit.
- Just5

Schenn has to play a game, and miss a game first before the Cap hit for him would be adjusted. His Cap hit going into the Season would be $3,110,000 without a bonus cushion for the Season. Schenn will count for $2,773,783 on the Cap for the off Season Cap

Gonchar is washed up, hes done.

If I were the Flyers I try Myers in Buffalo, because they have an abundance of dmen. Start with JVR+ mid level prospect for him.
- FLYERSROCK!

Doubt that would get it done.

Would it be a silly idea to trade Bob for a young Dman and sign a vet back up like Biron?

Is it silly to hope Jagr comes back a little cheaper because I'm not seeing much other scoring options to replace him.

Would it be a silly idea to trade Bob for a young Dman and sign a vet back up like Biron?

Is it silly to hope Jagr comes back a little cheaper because I'm not seeing much other scoring options to replace him.
- roenick97

No that wouldnt be a silly idea, but Biron seems to be perfectly happy with the situation he is in up in NY.

Also, I think it will be tough to get a NHL quality young D-man for Bob.

Doubt that would get it done.
- MJL

If I were Buffalo, I would be asking for Coots... and i am not giving up coots.

Would it be a silly idea to trade Bob for a young Dman and sign a vet back up like Biron?

Is it silly to hope Jagr comes back a little cheaper because I'm not seeing much other scoring options to replace him.
- roenick97

i doubt Jagr will take a discount...he showed he can still play...
he will only return if he knows and is comfortable with his role. if not he will sign elsewhere...

If I were Buffalo, I would be asking for Coots... and i am not giving up coots.
- jak521

There's no way Buffalo would give up Myers with the asking price starting at JVR. Any move consisting of Myers would have to include Coots, Schenn, Read +.

With the way that Martin has played, you almost have to improve within the top 4.
- jak521

I agree, Martin has been terrible. However, Despres played 18 games at the NHL level and from what I have seen of him it was inexplicable why he did not receive more time there. I suspect he will be called up and receive a spot on the starting roster while limiting Martin's ATOI. This is essentially the same response the Penguins had when Martin's play suffered at the beginning of the year, allowing Niskanen a spot in our Top 4 and playing Martin as a 5/6 defender.

There's no way Buffalo would give up Myers with the asking price starting at JVR. Any move consisting of Myers would have to include Coots, Schenn, Read +.
- KGBflyers10

JvR is more valuable than Read, and I dont know if I am reading this wrong, but are you say Coots, Schenn, Read + or Coots +, Schenn+, Read +?

JvR is more valuable than Read, and I dont know if I am reading this wrong, but are you say Coots, Schenn, Read + or Coots +, Schenn+, Read +?
- jak521

The latter.

And JVR might be more valuable, but with the price tag he has and the injury-riddled season he just had, I'm not too sure there would be many teams willing to add him.

There's no way Buffalo would give up Myers with the asking price starting at JVR. Any move consisting of Myers would have to include Coots, Schenn, Read +.
- KGBflyers10

With that offer, it had better be S. Weber...not Myers.

EDIT: I see your clarification.

The latter.

And JVR might be more valuable, but with the price tag he has and the injury-riddled season he just had, I'm not too sure there would be many teams willing to add him.
- KGBflyers10

Id be willing to bet that every team in the NHL would love to add him.

little late and not sure if anyone posted this prior but

http://www.thestarphoenix...Flyers/6663497/story.html
- nastyflyergirl

nice read, hope this guy can bring it

Id be willing to bet that every team in the NHL would love to add him.
- jak521

I would love to see JVR with a healthy hip, I can seem JVR comming out strong next year

Schenn has to play a game, and miss a game first before the Cap hit for him would be adjusted. His Cap hit going into the Season would be $3,110,000 without a bonus cushion for the Season. Schenn will count for $2,773,783 on the Cap for the off Season Cap
- MJL

Since he'd have to dress in all 82 games AND average 25-plus minutes of ice time per game for the entire year, the in-season cap hit will drop quickly even w/o the bonus cushion.