Come on. Yakupov is good, but be serious. Kane AND Enstrom/Bogosian/Byfuglien? WPG will laugh and hang up.
- isles10289

Winnipeg would be foolish to trade Kane straight up for Yakupov, let alone adding a top three blueliner.

I'd personally want Kane over yukapov anyway because Kane's mean

Kane is not going anywhere. As for a second for Enstrom- be real. Oduya got two second round picks at the deadline and he was UFA.

Enstrom and the Jets' first in 2012 for???

You tell me

Kane is not going anywhere. As for a second for Enstrom- be real. Oduya got two second round picks at the deadline and he was UFA.

Enstrom and the Jets' first in 2012 for???

You tell me
- Peter.Tessier

Trade deadline, stupidity happens.

You probably can get lots for Enstrom, but it won't be from Edmonton.

Sooner go after the Liles, Campbell, Corvo's who don't cost an arm and a leg.

Trade deadline, stupidity happens.

You probably can get lots for Enstrom, but it won't be from Edmonton.

Sooner go after the Liles, Campbell, Corvo's who don't cost an arm and a leg.
- Lahey

There's a reason he won't cost an arm and a leg.

There's a reason he won't cost an arm and a leg.
- Double_A

I'll take his 20-30 points for a 4th rounder sooner than I'd give up the farm for Enstrom.

I'll take his 20-30 points for a 4th rounder sooner than I'd give up the farm for Enstrom.
- Lahey

I'll agree with my fellow oiler fan here. Would not trade too much for Enstrom although I like his game. If he had 3 years left then higher price is justified. I don't see a good match between the oilers and jets for Enstrom. Wideman and carle are other good choices ufas.

As for Kane and Yakupov. Jets won't do it because they know what they have. Edmonton would prefer a potential elite dman or centre man otherwise what's techie point. Yak has just as high, if not higher ceiling than Kane. Took Kane 3 seasons so we should give yak one or two.

A package including bogosian, Scheifele, and your 1st for a package including our 1st overall with another asset will have more traction IMO.

Edit: effing autocorrect

I'll agree with my fellow oiler fan here. Would not trade too much for Enstrom although I like his game. If he had 3 years left then higher price is justified. I don't see a good match between the oilers and jets for Enstrom. Wideman and carle are other good choices.

As for Kane and Yakupov. Jets won't do it because they know what they have. Edmonton would prefer a potential elite dman or centre man otherwise what's techie point. Yak has just as high, of not higher ceiling than Kane. Took Kane 3 seasons so we should give yak one or two.

A package including bogosian, Scheifele, and your 1st for a package including our 1st overall swill other asset will have more traction IMO.
- ystoil

I prefer Bogosian over Enstrom. I don't see WPG trading Kane, but every player has it's price and it will cost EDM more in a deal involving prying Kane and Bogosian rather WPG prying the first pick from EDM. For a dreaming deal...

EDM: Bogosian, Kane, WPG 1st pick
WPG: MPS, EDM 1st pick, d-man, prospect

Peter Tessier: The Case For Enstrom… to be traded to Edmonton
Is there too much potential synergy between the Oilers and Jets not to make this deal?
- Peter.Tessier

Great writeup.

In my opinion, the Oilers are not interested in giving up the #1 pick or giving up the #1 plus for Enstrom and the #8 (I think it'd have to a pretty big plus to make that work).

If there's a deal to be made with Edmonton's moveable parts that Chevy doesn't laugh at, then maybe.

Kane is not going anywhere. As for a second for Enstrom- be real. Oduya got two second round picks at the deadline and he was UFA.

Enstrom and the Jets' first in 2012 for???

You tell me
- Peter.Tessier

Enstrom for Hemsky

These two guys are in similar situations (both UFA) in two years. This would be a so called hockey trade. I honestly don't think the Oilers are going to give up any of (Hall, Nuge or Eberle).

If you want to move up from 9 to 1 then you need to dangle a very attractive carrot in front on the Oilers. Something like pick #9 and a physical forward/defenseman who isn't set to be UFA anytime soon.

I'll take his 20-30 points for a 4th rounder sooner than I'd give up the farm for Enstrom.
- Lahey

The problem is more the 30-40 GA he's responsible for. He's a PMD who neither passes or skates the puck very well, on the upside he's got a good shot and he's not afraid to let it go, pretty much his sole redeeming quality.

FWIW he's a UFA so he'll cost you nothing, he's not even worth that.

That is fine ... keep the pick. He doesn't help you fill the glaring weaknesses in your lineup.

Bottom line, people think this guy is already Bure and will come in and score 45 goals and 80 points as a rookie. I think people who suggest getting something like this back just to get the right to draft him are a bit out of touch. Kane is going to get alot better as well and that is 100 combined points the Jets would have to find somewhere else, not to mention another offensive-minded blueliner and one of the best young power forwards in the game.
- Oneonta Penguin

We've got at least three glaring weaknesses, and defense is only one of them...It's a bogus proposal, but this 'you guys have to trade yakupov or they're screwed' act is getting about as old as the 'yakupov is going to be a generational talent'. Neither is true.

The problem is more the 30-40 GA he's responsible for. He's a PMD who neither passes or skates the puck very well, on the upside he's got a good shot and he's not afraid to let it go, pretty much his sole redeeming quality.

FWIW he's a UFA so he'll cost you nothing, he's not even worth that.






- Double_A

We've got an abundance of guys who can take care of their own end.

Pairing him with Smid or Schultz could be okay.

In any case, for where the oilers are right now they could use Corvo and Enstrom, but one is in their price range right now.

Enstrom for Hemsky

These two guys are in similar situations (both UFA) in two years. This would be a so called hockey trade. I honestly don't think the Oilers are going to give up any of (Hall, Nuge or Eberle).

If you want to move up from 9 to 1 then you need to dangle a very attractive carrot in front on the Oilers. Something like pick #9 and a physical forward/defenseman who isn't set to be UFA anytime soon.
- Starbuck

Enstrom for Hemsky

These two guys are in similar situations (both UFA) in two years. This would be a so called hockey trade. I honestly don't think the Oilers are going to give up any of (Hall, Nuge or Eberle).

If you want to move up from 9 to 1 then you need to dangle a very attractive carrot in front on the Oilers. Something like pick #9 and a physical forward/defenseman who isn't set to be UFA anytime soon.
- Starbuck

Enstrom has one year left. Although that is an interesting proposal from our end anyway.

Edm: Enstrom, Kane, 3rd

Winn: MPS, Omark, Smid, 2nd
- jonathonpeddle

That's just terrible. Terrible!

We've got an abundance of guys who can take care of their own end.

Pairing him with Smid or Schultz could be okay.

In any case, for where the oilers are right now they could use Corvo and Enstrom, but one is in their price range right now.
- Morris

If Seidenberg and Chara couldn't help him, I'm doubtful Smid or Schultz will. Not that it really matters to me, but Joe Corvo is not the answer to any possible question the Oilers may have.

Enstrom has one year left. Although that is an interesting proposal from our end anyway.
- Lahey

Of course it would be an interesting proposal from your end. Receiving a pretty decent piece that fits your most glaring weakness and trading away a spare part that will be making 10 million over the next two years always makes it interesting from your perspective.

I fail to see the logic on why Winnipeg would do this.

If Seidenberg and Chara couldn't help him, I'm doubtful Smid or Schultz will. Not that it really matters to me, but Joe Corvo is not the answer to any possible question the Oilers may have.
- Double_A

Well thanks for the heads up I guess.

Of course it would be an interesting proposal from your end. Receiving a pretty decent piece that fits your most glaring weakness and trading away a spare part that will be making 10 million over the next two years always makes it interesting from your perspective.

I fail to see the logic on why Winnipeg would do this.
- Oneonta Penguin

So why not propose something, that actually works for both ends? Not this BS that we need defense so we should trade away a real good asset for a lessor asset. PIT needs a winger for Crosby, maybe they should trade Malkin for Nash.

Well thanks for the heads up I guess.
- Morris

I'm only here to help.

Enstrom has one year left. Although that is an interesting proposal from our end anyway.
- Lahey

It is a good proposal, but I would consider trading d-man for d-man and EDM add to it. I rather see Hemsky traded towards a different route for his potential skill and talent.

EDM: Enstrom
WPG: Whitney+upcoming prospect forward

Kane is not going anywhere. As for a second for Enstrom- be real. Oduya got two second round picks at the deadline and he was UFA.

Enstrom and the Jets' first in 2012 for???

You tell me
- Peter.Tessier

I'm not so sure about Kane staying put. He spent quite a bit of time in coach Noel's dog house this past season. He's a fantastic player when he wants to be but there were too many games where he was invisible.

To me Taylor Hall and Evander Kane are the same player with one glaring exception. Hall's motor never quits. If Kane had the same drive he'd be as good or better.

Kane straight up for Yakupov is interesting. I don't think it fits for either team unless Winnipeg is ok with setting the clock back on being competitive. I'm not sure Edmonton would want to have to spend money on Kane's contract with Hall , Eberle and the Nuge all needing new deals within the next couple of years.

I think Enstrom is an interesting piece. I don't think the Oilers would be offering up the 1st overall in a package for Enstrom however. Smid will not be traded by the Oilers. He took a huge step forward this year and will be in Edmonton for a long time.

Peter you are forgetting about the emergence of Jeff Petry in Edmonton. He's a very good puck moving defenseman who's just scratching the surface of his potential. Whitney can still pass the puck as well as anyone. His mobility is the issue and his defending has suffered as a consequence.

I honestly don't think Enstrom fits a need in Edmonton. Enstrom's defensive play isn't where I would like it to be and part of that is due to size.... Now if Bogosian were part of the conversation...

So why not propose something, that actually works for both ends? Not this BS that we need defense so we should trade away a real good asset for a lessor asset. PIT needs a winger for Crosby, maybe they should trade Malkin for Nash.
- Lahey

Well it doesn't start with a "spare part"...even though that spare part in a career low year scored well enough to be on 21 teams top 6s, including 8 playoff teams and Winnipeg, the team in question, who have a couple of good snipers and need a good playmaker.

It doesn't start with that.

I'm not so sure about Kane staying put. He spent quite a bit of time in coach Noel's dog house this past season. He's a fantastic player when he wants to be but there were too many games where he was invisible.

To me Taylor Hall and Evander Kane are the same player with one glaring exception. Hall's motor never quits. If Kane had the same drive he'd be as good or better.

Kane straight up for Yakupov is interesting. I don't think it fits for either team unless Winnipeg is ok with setting the clock back on being competitive. I'm not sure Edmonton would want to have to spend money on Kane's contract with Hall , Eberle and the Nuge all needing new deals within the next couple of years.

I think Enstrom is an interesting piece. I don't think the Oilers would be offering up the 1st overall in a package for Enstrom however. Smid will not be traded by the Oilers. He took a huge step forward this year and will be in Edmonton for a long time.

Peter you are forgetting about the emergence of Jeff Petry in Edmonton. He's a very good puck moving defenseman who's just scratching the surface of his potential. Whitney can still pass the puck as well as anyone. His mobility is the issue and his defending has suffered as a consequence.

I honestly don't think Enstrom fits a need in Edmonton. Enstrom's defensive play isn't where I would like it to be and part of that is due to size.... Now if Bogosian were part of the conversation...
- wolfie

For Bogosian, I'd would consider offering MPS. I doubt WPG wants Hemsky as his contract is twice as big and he is UFA and WPG would want a smaller salary plus RFA status player. It would be MPS+ though. Maybe MPS+Omark or MPS+Lander