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- Cptmjl

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XxNYIxX

If Wang and Snow are so awesome and incredible then why do only you, Tavares, Nielsen, and Nabakov know(sorry, and xXx)? The way this guy makes it sound Nash and Loungo are going to be chomping at the bit! Wang and Snow are great! I'm surprised the rest of the NHL, it's players, THN, TSN, me, and the whole damn hockey world hasn't caught on? Shocking?
- Cptmjl

F Nash & Luongo!

XxNYIxX

Your eyes must hurt from reading the truth.

I left out nothing, you added gossip. innuendo and a perception card created by Dolan's media and a failed former media relations coordinator with a grudge influencing perception.

The players always have a choice, and all of them absolutely believe this will be a championship level team. Campoli wanted out, Snow moved him.

The team's record and reputation since CW arrived has been downright embarrassing? Is that comical after he came in after six years or missing the playoffs with owners who had them flying coach who dropped the payroll to fourteen million dollars and tried to move the team that tried to leverage the cable contract and move Palffy to Msg.

This owner came in, spend 130m dollars on players, settled all Smg litigation, got them a deal with Espn 1050 and they had a forty plus point improvement and sold out close to thirty games and started renovating a building he did not own.

He also honored Trottier, Lafontaine 11/8/2003 and started bringing back alumni and honored them which Pickett never did.

This man took the payroll to 45m dollars with no cap floor. Prove his ELC are different than any other team or no other team had veterans with bonus clauses in their contracts?

Pittsburgh had Richard Park and Asham last year.

Niederreiter was here for the cap, than why not deHaan who has the same ELC and almost made the team three years ago?

Once again Charles Wang paid a lot of players who got hurt after 2007-08. No one was complaining when he signed Hunter or Comrie (at Smyth's advice) or extended Witt early when even he expected them to wait. Sim came here with seventeen goals. Hilbert with some potential.

In fact all I read was Wang better sign Hunter, who after being traded to New Jersey just before the referendum told the NJ paper, he's the only one who was here longer than Wang and he really deserved that it be approved at a time he was about to lose 1/3 his future pay.

Seems Hunter had a ton of respect for the man who's gm just traded him.

Wang did not injure Streit and Okposo.

The Knicks have one playoff win in a decade. You have teams all over the NHL in new buildings that were terrible a lot longer (without injuries) than the Isles including the Kings who missed the playoffs six years in a row.
- NYI

Nah, my eyes hurt from the shade of Kool-aid the post was written in.

So, all of my posts are "innuendo"? Really? So its innuendo that Wang has a team that has missed the playoffs for seven of 11 seasons? Its innuendo that Wang's team has been a bottom five team for the past five years? Guess what? Nothing you've written here is anything more than innuendo as well. Unless you're an insider or Wang himself, you have no idea why he has made any decision that he has and its insane that you attempt to pass off your statements as gospel. And BTW, want another "Fact"? Dolan and Wang are friends. So you can take your asinine and unsupported contention that the negative perception of the Islanders is just drummed up by the Dolan media machine and stick it. I guess its all Dolan's doing that no veteran free agents who are remotely sought after don't sign on Long Island?

The players always have a "choice", huh? Really? Because last time i checked, drafted players are RESTRICTED in where they can go until they reach 7 years of service. You don't know what any of the players think. They also know if they don't sign and play, they can't get to UFA status or get paid.

And spare me the nonsense of comparing Wang to his predecessors. That's like comparing one broken down car to another. What? He should get a medal for not flying his team coach? Come on. That's implied. Funny how you compare Wang to a bunch of scab former owners that to other legit owners around hockey like Mke Illitch.

And if you can't see that Nino was on this team to get to the floor, then you also must think that a player who scored one point in 55 games and was outscored by the team's injured goaltender for the season was NHL ready. Sometimes, you actually have to think and ope your eyes. The truth won't just slap you in the face (and BTW, want to know why Nino and not de Haan was up for cap purposes? The Isles had seven D-men under contract. They had room up front).

I guess if Trent Hunter thinks that Wang is a great owner, that must make it so. Besides, did Hunter ever say in the paraphrase you don't quote that Wang was doing a great job as an owner? I didn't see him say that. I guess that's some innuendo from you.

Did you just say "no cups" for Milbury's players that he traded except Chara on his "third team"?
- Cptmjl

Unless you want to count Mike Rupp with the Devils, who did score a game seven winner.

You have some valid points to be honest even though I don't agree with most of them but come on. This is NOT a valid point, I would say more good players don't win the cup then do. Also, trying to discredit one of the best Dmen in the league bcs he's been on three teams and Milbury traded him is laughable.
- Cptmjl

He went to Ottawa and they could not win, the point is all these players moved around after they left the Isles. Enough people are discrediting Luongo without my help and has Heatley demanded a trade from Minnesota to go with Atlanta and Ottawa yet?

Milbury "fleecing" Montreal on getting Asham? Using "fleecing" and a trade with Asham as the centerpiece is funny. Like the guy but "fleecing"?
- Cptmjl

All I remember is the Canadians lost 6-3 in a must win game where Asham dominated and knocked them out in 2002-03 while Czerkawski was in the AHL, Asham had fifteen goals.

Then the next year Czerkawski came back from the AHL, had 25 goals and the Isles made another playoff with 91 points on a team where Kvasha had 51 points.

Knock Milbury all you want, but Asham even made Barnaby cry, was on the 2006 playoff team and scored the only goal in the series opening loss.

Nah, my eyes hurt from the shade of Kool-aid the post was written in.

So, all of my posts are "innuendo"? Really? So its innuendo that Wang has a team that has missed the playoffs for seven of 11 seasons? Its innuendo that Wang's team has been a bottom five team for the past five years? Guess what? Nothing you've written here is anything more than innuendo as well. Unless you're an insider or Wang himself, you have no idea why he has made any decision that he has and its insane that you attempt to pass off your statements as gospel. And BTW, want another "Fact"? Dolan and Wang are friends. So you can take your asinine and unsupported contention that the negative perception of the Islanders is just drummed up by the Dolan media machine and stick it. I guess its all Dolan's doing that no veteran free agents who are remotely sought after don't sign on Long Island?

The players always have a "choice", huh? Really? Because last time i checked, drafted players are RESTRICTED in where they can go until they reach 7 years of service. You don't know what any of the players think. They also know if they don't sign and play, they can't get to UFA status or get paid.

And spare me the nonsense of comparing Wang to his predecessors. That's like comparing one broken down car to another. What? He should get a medal for not flying his team coach? Come on. That's implied. Funny how you compare Wang to a bunch of scab former owners that to other legit owners around hockey like Mke Illitch.

And if you can't see that Nino was on this team to get to the floor, then you also must think that a player who scored one point in 55 games and was outscored by the team's injured goaltender for the season was NHL ready. Sometimes, you actually have to think and ope your eyes. The truth won't just slap you in the face (and BTW, want to know why Nino and not de Haan was up for cap purposes? The Isles had seven D-men under contract. They had room up front).

I guess if Trent Hunter thinks that Wang is a great owner, that must make it so. Besides, did Hunter ever say in the paraphrase you don't quote that Wang was doing a great job as an owner? I didn't see him say that. I guess that's some innuendo from you.
- Jethro09

The Wang love is out in full force. What planet is this?

Unless you want to count Mike Rupp with the Devils, who did score a game seven winner.



He went to Ottawa and they could not win, the point is all these players moved around after they left the Isles. Enough people are discrediting Luongo without my help and has Heatley demanded a trade from Minnesota to go with Atlanta and Ottawa yet?



All I remember is the Canadians lost 6-3 in a must win game where Asham dominated and knocked them out in 2002-03 while Czerkawski was in the AHL, Asham had fifteen goals.

Then the next year Czerkawski came back from the AHL, had 25 goals and the Isles made another playoff with 91 points on a team where Kvasha had 51 points.

Knock Milbury all you want, but Asham even made Barnaby cry, was on the 2006 playoff team and scored the only goal in the series opening loss.
- NYI

I said I liked Asham but using him and"fleeced" in the same sentence is a stretch, he's a decent role player. As far as Milbury's players moving around after he traded them... This was before these ridiculous long term contracts became popular(Thanks Wang or should I say NYI )and players moved around more frequently, plus this in no way diminshes them as players in any way. Any person who discredits Luongo is being short sighted IMO. The guy is an incredible player. Heatley, I'll concede. I think what I'm trying to say is Milbury is a total ass clown(which is also known through out the league BTW, just like Luongo and Heatley)and will go down as one of the worst(if not worst)GM in the history of the NHL. There is a reason for that. Snow may be battling for that position if he stays on this track?

The Wang love is out in full force. What planet is this?
- ses111

Welcome to planet hockeybuzz where all the geniuses come to write and "contribute" for our benefit. Funny, before all of this I thought Wang was a horrible owner, Snow sucked, and Milbury was one of the worst GM's in NHL history? Now, after meeting NYI my opinion has now changed! Wang is an incredible owner, Snow will win GM of the year this coming year, and maybe Milbury wasn't that bad afterall?

This guy has gone back and forth with his opinion numerous times. From bashing Snow to insulting Wang with his photo shopped pictures. Now he writes an almost symphathetic blog? Says he understands fans "complaining" then almost hints at there not being any validity to them complaining yet I've read enough of his stuff to know he was a "complainer" himself? Why the sudden change of heart?
- Cptmjl

I must be in an alternate universe. When the owner goes on TV and says Snow and Cappy are doing a great job that's all the prove that Wang is clueless.

Welcome to planet hockeybuzz where all the geniuses come to write and "contribute" for our benefit. Funny, before all of this I thought Wang was a horrible owner, Snow sucked, and Milbury was one of the worst GM's in NHL history? Now, after meeting NYI my opinion has now changed! Wang is an incredible owner, Snow will win GM of the year this coming year, and maybe Milbury wasn't that bad afterall?
- Cptmjl

I have also seen the light as well. All hail Wang and Snow.

Nah, my eyes hurt from the shade of Kool-aid the post was written in.

So, all of my posts are "innuendo"? Really? So its innuendo that Wang has a team that has missed the playoffs for seven of 11 seasons? Its innuendo that Wang's team has been a bottom five team for the past five years? Guess what? Nothing you've written here is anything more than innuendo as well. Unless you're an insider or Wang himself, you have no idea why he has made any decision that he has and its insane that you attempt to pass off your statements as gospel. And BTW, want another "Fact"? Dolan and Wang are friends. So you can take your asinine and unsupported contention that the negative perception of the Islanders is just drummed up by the Dolan media machine and stick it. I guess its all Dolan's doing that no veteran free agents who are remotely sought after don't sign on Long Island?

The players always have a "choice", huh? Really? Because last time i checked, drafted players are RESTRICTED in where they can go until they reach 7 years of service. You don't know what any of the players think. They also know if they don't sign and play, they can't get to UFA status or get paid.

And spare me the nonsense of comparing Wang to his predecessors. That's like comparing one broken down car to another. What? He should get a medal for not flying his team coach? Come on. That's implied. Funny how you compare Wang to a bunch of scab former owners that to other legit owners around hockey like Mke Illitch.

And if you can't see that Nino was on this team to get to the floor, then you also must think that a player who scored one point in 55 games and was outscored by the team's injured goaltender for the season was NHL ready. Sometimes, you actually have to think and ope your eyes. The truth won't just slap you in the face (and BTW, want to know why Nino and not de Haan was up for cap purposes? The Isles had seven D-men under contract. They had room up front).

I guess if Trent Hunter thinks that Wang is a great owner, that must make it so. Besides, did Hunter ever say in the paraphrase you don't quote that Wang was doing a great job as an owner? I didn't see him say that. I guess that's some innuendo from you.
- Jethro09

Like alot on here only his innuendo is fact! Welcome NYI, you'll fit right in! There are a couple sites you can pull up that will make your innuendo even more believable. When someone posts "source" thats when you go searching online, good luck

I must be in an alternate universe. When the owner goes on TV and says Snow and Cappy are doing a great job that's all the prove that Wang is clueless.
- ses111

Why would anyone need proof, just look at the guy. Listen to him, your impression of him is right people. You're not being judgemental, he's nuts! Why can't anyone just say it? Why do people need proof?

I have also seen the light as well. All hail Wang and Snow.
- ses111

Reading what Botta posted the other day just shows you how committed Wang and Snow are to winning. Who wouldn't want to re-sign Jay Pandolfo, especially after the season he had last year?

Prove Wang is doing this himself? Between those who claim he's only interested in real-estate (despite agreeing to a lease last summer with no development rights) or an absentee owner he speaks a lot more than any past Islander owner and most current local owners.



A lot of gm's are not Stanley Cup winners. former Islanders Howson and Tambellini should teach you that lesson along with the former Islander Montreal just hired.

As for gm you mean like the Flyers when they hired former player Bobby Clark off the ice, or how Dallas tried their own hockey committee so Brett Hull could give Avery 19m while Snow picked Moulson, Streit, Grabner, Roloson and make some fantastic negotiations with Nielsen and MacDonald at 500k/4 years.

Funny how the gm went against the people's choice in Filatov at the draft or was that Wang and son again by your logic, or made the trades to fleece Toronto of Hamonic's selection.



You mean the same Gord Clark who presided over the drafting of Rupp, Biron, Mezei, Pyatt, Connolly who's 2000/2001 draft classes were terrible. When he got to the Rangers was part of a ton of failed first rounders.

You forgot the part when failed former media relations coordinator was making sure everyone knew Jankowski would not be renewed, the Rangers were quietly dumping 22 year lead scout, Chris Rockstrom while made one Edmonton paper before both signed with the Canadians.



Wang and Kumar did not know that, Milbury expected to be fired, they were loyal and after a 30th place finish Milbury had to save his job and produced a playoff team which no one was complaining about at the end of 2002.



Prove that Wang insisted upon anything in terms of hockey-related decisions beyond no holdouts. Ed Snider is the guy who goes around demanding free agents and forced his gm's to sign Bryzgalov after Snider gave those pathetic front-loaded Comcast/NBC contracts to Richards and Carter who are now playing for a cup because he did not want them on his team.



His friend? Funny Yashin is his friend and even practicing with the club this fall Wang's friend was again not signed. Wang a decade ago listened to the fans who were tired of seeing their players traded after a year so he said let's get some players who will be here for a generation when he could have kept his wallet closed with a 30th place team. DiPietro was a franchise goalie and a top pick who became an all-star and the risk to retire or have insurance pay is on DiPietro. not the Isles cap.



He made a winning team a priority, then went to Nassau they said no renovation money, by 2004 he came up with the Lighthouse and brought in developer Rechler, last summer he agreed to a thirty year lease with no development rights while everyone else in NY/NJ got a check or a new arena like Vanderbeek.

He settled all Smg issues and spent millions putting in scoreboards, matrix boards, renovating lockerooms and looks to be doing that again.

You can disagree or throw names but everything I wrote did happen.
- NYI

Wang didn't know what a hockey puck was until after Al D'Amato asked him to buy the team to keep it from moving. In return, CW was told he's have the inside track on redeveloping the 77 acres the Coliseum sits on. Shockingly, after he bought the team, his was the winning bid to develop the hub. So, a guy who had no idea what hockey was bought the team because he loved the game? Please...

The lease you refer to DOESN'T EXIST. That lease was signed under the PREDICATE that an arena would be built if the referrendum passed. It didn't. The lease that you referred to is as worthless as the paper it was written on. Its unenforcable. Have you seen CW extend the actual lease that he's trapped in the Coliseum under? I haven't. Don't hold your breath because he won't. He's already said he won't.

You think the "committee" was a good idea because Dallas tried something like it? How did it work out for them? It must have been a good idea since so many other teams have scrapped a system of one decision maker that's been in place for decades in the NHL for the "committee" approach...

You want to praise CW for being clerevoyant in hiring Snow? BEcause Snow got lucky and picked up table scraps like Moulson, PAP and Grabs who have worked out? HOw about Snow's scrap heap pick up all star team of Reasoner, Pandolfo, Rolston, Juricna, Mottau, Eaton? I guess those misses don't count. It was still a great, savvy decision by Snow to remove a player from the bench and place him in the GM's chair.

Funny how you tear up Clark. Last time i checked, Clark was an assistant to Milbury, who made personnel decisions, not Clark. Clark was also on the staff that has drafted many of the core guys on the Rangers who are carrying that team throught the playoffs.

Want me to "prove" Wang wanted in on hockey-related decisions? How about his CREATING OF THE COMMITTEE! WANG along with Snow, Nolan and Trots were ALL to have equal say in decisions. Do you really need to have logic come off the screen and slap you in the face to see that this is an owner wanting input on hockey-related decisions?

Your rationale for Wang/Kumar keeping Milbury is comical. They "rewarded" a guy who finished dead last in the league during the first season of the owner's tenure after running the team into the ground for five years before that by keeping him around to do more damage? Wang is a business man. He purchased a failing business. Common sense should have told him to cut bait with the current managemnt. But because he didn't even know what hockey was, he couldn't even hire competent staff to run his team.

I can go on and on with you, but I'm going to watch the game now. Wang never winning a priority. If he did, he failed. the team hasn't won s**t since he took over.

Unless you want to count Mike Rupp with the Devils, who did score a game seven winner.



He went to Ottawa and they could not win, the point is all these players moved around after they left the Isles. Enough people are discrediting Luongo without my help and has Heatley demanded a trade from Minnesota to go with Atlanta and Ottawa yet?



All I remember is the Canadians lost 6-3 in a must win game where Asham dominated and knocked them out in 2002-03 while Czerkawski was in the AHL, Asham had fifteen goals.

Then the next year Czerkawski came back from the AHL, had 25 goals and the Isles made another playoff with 91 points on a team where Kvasha had 51 points.

Knock Milbury all you want, but Asham even made Barnaby cry, was on the 2006 playoff team and scored the only goal in the series opening loss.
- NYI

"Asham even made Barnaby cry, was on the 2006 playoff team and scored the only goal in the opening series loss"

So, all of my posts are "innuendo"? Really? So its innuendo that Wang has a team that has missed the playoffs for seven of 11 seasons? Its innuendo that Wang's team has been a bottom five team for the past five years? Guess what? Nothing you've written here is anything more than innuendo as well.

- Jethro09

You claiming Wang is playing gm is innuendo, me pointing out all his players resigned are facts and he spent his money is fact. Those injury numbers are not innuendo but fact.

Unless you're an insider or Wang himself, you have no idea why he has made any decision
- Jethro09

I don't have to know, the point is he spent his money and the players who took his money wanted to be here, they work there daily, not us.

And BTW, want another "Fact"? Dolan and Wang are friends. So you can take your asinine and unsupported contention that the negative perception of the Islanders is just drummed up by the Dolan media machine and stick it. I guess its all Dolan's doing that no veteran free agents who are remotely sought after don't sign on Long Island?
- Jethro09

The only fact I know is Dolan pulled this team off television until the cable contract in 1998 was renegotiated, hid their 2002 playoff games on Metroguide, took away their pregame, then got Murdoch's Fox NY part of that failed merger and Isles fans got token coverage on a chanel called Msg+ and the team got less coverage than ever. Then Dolan bought Newsday and the teams media coverage because another +2 full of Ranger die-hard writers with a tacit referendum endorsement after weeks of NIFA's George Marlin and others getting exclusive coverage to influence a no vote.

This behind Dolan's paywall and a staff that has criticized his sports bias all over New York in that paper including the LI Press last week.

The players always have a "choice", huh? Really? Because last time i checked, drafted players are RESTRICTED in where they can go until they reach 7 years of service. You don't know what any of the players think. They also know if they don't sign and play, they can't get to UFA status or get paid.
- Jethro09

Funny how you left out all the veterans like Witt, Hunter who resigned, or Blake who stood at center ice and begged to be resigned. I guess Moulson, Nielsen, and the goalie they tolled could not be UFA for seven years either? LOL

Of course Doug Weight had no NHL options for another job.

Funny how many resigned beyond their UFA expiration date and all of them praised the owner.

And spare me the nonsense of comparing Wang to his predecessors. That's like comparing one broken down car to another.
- Jethro09

In your world comparing an owner who spent 14m dollars and forced the best player to be traded (which the league rejected) to someone who gave a ninety point player 88m, Peca 20m, Aucoin, Hamrlik, Jonsson many extensions the same but not in the real world.

Mike Illitch got a tax payer funded stadium despite owning Little Ceasar's and now has Amway on board. Let's see how much Detroit gives him from the taxpayers for his new arena which him and casino wife will want. How much Illitch invest in that dump for Detroit while he neglected Tiger Stadium and forced it's demolition while he was getting paid to maintain it.
(go read stranded at the corner)

And if you can't see that Nino was on this team to get to the floor, then you also must think that a player who scored one point in 55 games and was outscored by the team's injured goaltender for the season was NHL ready. Sometimes, you actually have to think and ope your eyes. The truth won't just slap you in the face (and BTW, want to know why Nino and not de Haan was up for cap purposes? The Isles had seven D-men under contract. They had room up front).
- Jethro09

The Isles had seven d-men under contract? Funny, how Staios was invited to camp when deHaan had his ELC and Katic got hurt to go with a defense that was out most of 2010-11 between Eaton, Jurcina and Mottau.

I guess if Trent Hunter thinks that Wang is a great owner, that must make it so. Besides, did Hunter ever say in the paraphrase you don't quote that Wang was doing a great job as an owner? I didn't see him say that. I guess that's some innuendo from you.
- Jethro09

No that's what the man said, too bad Dolan did not put it in his paper to help the yes vote to keep competition out of NYC or his Msg.

Some of us actually don't need Botta's agenda, we do our own facts and save the jokes.

http://www.northjersey.co...landers_can_stay_put.html

Gulitti: New Devil hopes Isles can stay put
Saturday, July 30, 2011
The Record

Trent Hunter has been an ex-Islander for less than 48 hours after more than 11 years in the organization, so it’s understandable that he still has strong feelings for the team, its fans and owner Charles Wang.

So, though Hunter became a Devil in Thursday’s trade that sent Brian Rolston to Long Island, he’ll still be keeping an eye on Monday’s referendum vote on a new Nassau Coliseum.

"I’ve been there just as long as Charles and he’s been working so hard to get that building, so I really hope for him and the organization that it goes through because he really deserves it," Hunter said Friday.

"You look at when we were in the playoffs, the building would be sold out," he said. "The fans are there. The first step is getting that building going and I think there’s definitely enough support there."

Reading what Botta posted the other day just shows you how committed Wang and Snow are to winning. Who wouldn't want to re-sign Jay Pandolfo, especially after the season he had last year?
- Cptmjl

Maybe you should stop believing the man who used to defend Milbury so much.
http://islanders.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=464195
BLOG: The Final Countdown
Friday, 04.07.2006 / 12:00 AM / News
Chris Botta

As for this notion the press loves to invent that Mike having a meeting creates the perception he will still be the de facto GM next season, just shut up already. This media myth certainly hasn't shortened the line wrapped around the Coliseum of qualified candidates begging for consideration. And during which part of the Jan. 12 press conference was Charles Wang unclear when he said the owner will choose the new GM? Or the part when he said the new GM will report directly to the owner? It's time a few reporters let their infatuation with Mike go. Maybe they have created this illusion because they'll miss him too much.

Alan's article in Monday's paper was disappointing. The space allotted by Long Island's newspaper for Long Island's only major professional sports team has been embarrassingly weak this season. Newsday's sports section gave up on the Islanders weeks before DiPietro and the rest of the team did. The Islanders were a nice story in March and had a lot of people talking around the league. Too bad Newsday buried it. Now all of a sudden Mike calls a meeting, the editors give Alan a full page and he uses it to take easy cheap shots because the home team lost.

Worst of all is that the story was unfair to the organization and to Milbury. In my opinion, Mike has been first-class since he stepped down on January 12. There's no doubt he could have made a desperate move or two and maybe end his tenure as GM with four straight playoff appearances. (I've seen other GMs do it for years. In fact, you can make the case that at least one did it this March 9). It would have been so easy for Mike to trade a few prospects, knowing that he was leaving the position and it would have been his successor's problem, not his. But Milbury refused to do anything that would hurt the future of the franchise.

On top of that, he made one of the best deals at the trade deadline, getting two key pieces for the nucleus from LA. He also stockpiled draft picks for Tony Feltrin and created a boatload of cap space for the next GM, who will inherit one of the game's best cores of young players because Milbury's staff drafted well and the GM held on to his prospects the last few years as ownership was solidified. What a selfish son of a gun Milbury is.

Look, it didn't go as planned this year. Everyone knows that. My very uneducated outside view is that the Islanders lost two very good defensemen to free agency in the new NHL and one great one to retirement, and never quite recovered. The good news is the Islanders have the players, the resources and most importantly the owner to get back into contention as early as next season.

So Mike Milbury watches a bad loss on Friday, becomes concerned about the effect these final games could have on Nilsson, Bergenheim and company and does something about it.

If you don't appreciate what Milbury did, you don't care about the Islanders.

You claiming Wang is playing gm is innuendo, me pointing out all his players resigned are facts and he spent his money is fact. Those injury numbers are not innuendo but fact.



I don't have to know, the point is he spent his money and the players who took his money wanted to be here, they work there daily, not us.



The only fact I know is Dolan pulled this team off television until the cable contract in 1998 was renegotiated, hid their 2002 playoff games on Metroguide, took away their pregame, then got Murdoch's Fox NY part of that failed merger and Isles fans got token coverage on a chanel called Msg+ and the team got less coverage than ever. Then Dolan bought Newsday and the teams media coverage because another +2 full of Ranger die-hard writers with a tacit referendum endorsement after weeks of NIFA's George Marlin and others getting exclusive coverage to influence a no vote.

This behind Dolan's paywall and a staff that has criticized his sports bias all over New York in that paper including the LI Press last week.



Funny how you left out all the veterans like Witt, Hunter who resigned, or Blake who stood at center ice and begged to be resigned. I guess Moulson, Nielsen, and the goalie they tolled could not be UFA for seven years either? LOL

Of course Doug Weight had no NHL options for another job.

Funny how many resigned beyond their UFA expiration date and all of them praised the owner.



In your world comparing an owner who spent 14m dollars and forced the best player to be traded (which the league rejected) to someone who gave a ninety point player 88m, Peca 20m, Aucoin, Hamrlik, Jonsson many extensions the same but not in the real world.

Mike Illitch got a tax payer funded stadium despite owning Little Ceasar's and now has Amway on board. Let's see how much Detroit gives him from the taxpayers for his new arena which him and casino wife will want. How much Illitch invest in that dump for Detroit while he neglected Tiger Stadium and forced it's demolition while he was getting paid to maintain it.
(go read stranded at the corner)



The Isles had seven d-men under contract? Funny, how Staios was invited to camp when deHaan had his ELC and Katic got hurt to go with a defense that was out most of 2010-11 between Eaton, Jurcina and Mottau.



No that's what the man said, too bad Dolan did not put it in his paper to help the yes vote to keep competition out of NYC or his Msg.

Some of us actually don't need Botta's agenda, we do our own facts and save the jokes.

http://www.northjersey.co...landers_can_stay_put.html

Gulitti: New Devil hopes Isles can stay put
Saturday, July 30, 2011
The Record

Trent Hunter has been an ex-Islander for less than 48 hours after more than 11 years in the organization, so it’s understandable that he still has strong feelings for the team, its fans and owner Charles Wang.

So, though Hunter became a Devil in Thursday’s trade that sent Brian Rolston to Long Island, he’ll still be keeping an eye on Monday’s referendum vote on a new Nassau Coliseum.

"I’ve been there just as long as Charles and he’s been working so hard to get that building, so I really hope for him and the organization that it goes through because he really deserves it," Hunter said Friday.

"You look at when we were in the playoffs, the building would be sold out," he said. "The fans are there. The first step is getting that building going and I think there’s definitely enough support there."
- NYI

I guess Trent made that statement before the vote

Maybe you should stop believing the man who used to defend Milbury so much.
http://islanders.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=464195
BLOG: The Final Countdown
Friday, 04.07.2006 / 12:00 AM / News
Chris Botta

As for this notion the press loves to invent that Mike having a meeting creates the perception he will still be the de facto GM next season, just shut up already. This media myth certainly hasn't shortened the line wrapped around the Coliseum of qualified candidates begging for consideration. And during which part of the Jan. 12 press conference was Charles Wang unclear when he said the owner will choose the new GM? Or the part when he said the new GM will report directly to the owner? It's time a few reporters let their infatuation with Mike go. Maybe they have created this illusion because they'll miss him too much.

Alan's article in Monday's paper was disappointing. The space allotted by Long Island's newspaper for Long Island's only major professional sports team has been embarrassingly weak this season. Newsday's sports section gave up on the Islanders weeks before DiPietro and the rest of the team did. The Islanders were a nice story in March and had a lot of people talking around the league. Too bad Newsday buried it. Now all of a sudden Mike calls a meeting, the editors give Alan a full page and he uses it to take easy cheap shots because the home team lost.

Worst of all is that the story was unfair to the organization and to Milbury. In my opinion, Mike has been first-class since he stepped down on January 12. There's no doubt he could have made a desperate move or two and maybe end his tenure as GM with four straight playoff appearances. (I've seen other GMs do it for years. In fact, you can make the case that at least one did it this March 9). It would have been so easy for Mike to trade a few prospects, knowing that he was leaving the position and it would have been his successor's problem, not his. But Milbury refused to do anything that would hurt the future of the franchise.

On top of that, he made one of the best deals at the trade deadline, getting two key pieces for the nucleus from LA. He also stockpiled draft picks for Tony Feltrin and created a boatload of cap space for the next GM, who will inherit one of the game's best cores of young players because Milbury's staff drafted well and the GM held on to his prospects the last few years as ownership was solidified. What a selfish son of a gun Milbury is.

Look, it didn't go as planned this year. Everyone knows that. My very uneducated outside view is that the Islanders lost two very good defensemen to free agency in the new NHL and one great one to retirement, and never quite recovered. The good news is the Islanders have the players, the resources and most importantly the owner to get back into contention as early as next season.

So Mike Milbury watches a bad loss on Friday, becomes concerned about the effect these final games could have on Nilsson, Bergenheim and company and does something about it.

If you don't appreciate what Milbury did, you don't care about the Islanders.
- NYI

Holy Hell Wow! You my friend take the cake! The last sentence unfortunately means you're nuttier than a jar of Planters. Gotta go! Btw, Botta is a dipshat but his "reports" are on point and pretty dependable. Plus it's completely believable that your great owner and GM would think this was a great idea judging from past history. Have a good night. Time to watch a team doing things the right way! Don't forget to take the blue pill tonight

Reading what Botta posted the other day just shows you how committed Wang and Snow are to winning. Who wouldn't want to re-sign Jay Pandolfo, especially after the season he had last year?
- Cptmjl

First Wang's interview saying Snow ad Cappy are doing great now the Isles want to resign Pandolfo. How much do we have to take?

First Wang's interview saying Snow ad Cappy are doing great now the Isles want to resign Pandolfo. How much do we have to take?
- ses111

This is an interesting game? Holy crap! As far as how much we have to take? The answer is of course as much as we let them feed us. I'm still here as disgruntled and disgusted as I am. Some hate my negative comments on how Snow is going to get a top 4 or 2 Dman this year. Or me laughing at them saying he has to do something this year and he will. Some even hate my fat Asian kid jokes which I can't understand why? Some people never learn and will continue to eat shat. I'd like to think that I'm aware what they're dishing out but in the end I'm still here eating it . God, I hate this (frank)ing team.

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- XxNYIxX

NYI is building it as we speak.

First Wang's interview saying Snow ad Cappy are doing great now the Isles want to resign Pandolfo. How much do we have to take?
- ses111

Wow, still shocked at this score?

Wang didn't know what a hockey puck was until after Al D'Amato asked him to buy the team to keep it from moving. In return, CW was told he's have the inside track on redeveloping the 77 acres the Coliseum sits on.
- Jethro09

Sorry......D'Amato and company submitted their development to Nassau months before Wang and Kumar bought the team but Nassau/TOH and Smg had all had to approve even with D'Amato in bed with Smg.

Funny how billion dollar developer Milstein needed three months to see no development plan would be approved and cut the payroll to nothing so the full time chairman of CA who to date has never developed anything in Plainville and Kumar who said at the press conference " we are not real estate developers " were going to run CA, the Islanders and do this development?

You do realize many RFP's were put out and before Wang Nassau got zero responses on the Coliseum.

To say nothing of the hundred thirty million Wang never had to spend on one player if he did not have a guarantee of a development?

Shockingly, after he bought the team, his was the winning bid to develop the hub. So, a guy who had no idea what hockey was bought the team because he loved the game? Please...
- Jethro09

You did a nice job there skipping over five years of no development plan, Wang saying no public bond, Nassau telling Wang they were broke and Wang also trying to buy the Nets.

You even skipped over it becoming an RFP under Suozzi after Armand was sent packing by Wang with even the Mets bidding. I even found the Mets Lighthouse plan from 2005:

http://www.nassaucountyny...rlingPresentationRev2.pdf

Of course not one word on billionaire Rechler who is a developer coming in after 2004 for a Lighthouse renovation, was that in Wang's grand 2000 plan for a land grab too as his payroll rose to 45m?

The lease you refer to DOESN'T EXIST. That lease was signed under the PREDICATE that an arena would be built if the referrendum passed. It didn't. The lease that you referred to is as worthless as the paper it was written on. Its unenforcable. Have you seen CW extend the actual lease that he's trapped in the Coliseum under? I haven't. Don't hold your breath because he won't. He's already said he won't.
- Jethro09

I'm well aware of this, however the framework is there for an agreement based on that revenue split.

You think the "committee" was a good idea because Dallas tried something like it? How did it work out for them? It must have been a good idea since so many other teams have scrapped a system of one decision maker that's been in place for decades in the NHL for the "committee" approach...
- Jethro09

I think it was a terrible idea, however Wang did exactly what he said at that press conference, if a committee did not work they would go back to the old format and that's exactly what happened.

You want to praise CW for being clerevoyant in hiring Snow? BEcause Snow got lucky and picked up table scraps like Moulson, PAP and Grabs who have worked out? HOw about Snow's scrap heap pick up all star team of Reasoner, Pandolfo, Rolston, Juricna, Mottau, Eaton? I guess those misses don't count. It was still a great, savvy decision by Snow to remove a player from the bench and place him in the GM's chair.
- Jethro09

Everything counts and nothing is luck, but other teams have not had Snow's success in identifying talent. Snow's had a ton of man games lost to injury in three of five years leading the NHL. Snow's also done a ton of smart contracts, and his clunkers and is above par vs many of his counterparts.

Funny how you tear up Clark. Last time i checked, Clark was an assistant to Milbury, who made personnel decisions, not Clark. Clark was also on the staff that has drafted many of the core guys on the Rangers who are carrying that team throught the playoffs.
- Jethro09

Give me a break with Clark, he was part of the draft team that picked before us and passed on Parise, they took Montoya 6th overall. Before this year they made one more playoff than the Isles and got that backing in last year as Tampa beat Carolina the final night and they can move front-loaded failures like Gomez once they got the bulk of the cash or hide Redden/Avery in the AHL to go front-load Richard or Drury with Cablevision cash.

Want me to "prove" Wang wanted in on hockey-related decisions? How about his CREATING OF THE COMMITTEE! WANG along with Snow, Nolan and Trots were ALL to have equal say in decisions. Do you really need to have logic come off the screen and slap you in the face to see that this is an owner wanting input on hockey-related decisions?.
- Jethro09

Funny, but many fans rhetoric he had that already and still does so by that logic he never needed a committee. Unlike Comcast/NBC Ed Snider he never ran into the lockeroom and demanded a new goalie and then sent his 10 year contracts all around the league.

Your rationale for Wang/Kumar keeping Milbury is comical. They "rewarded" a guy who finished dead last in the league during the first season of the owner's tenure after running the team into the ground for five years before that by keeping him around to do more damage? Wang is a business man. He purchased a failing business. Common sense should have told him to cut bait with the current managemnt. But because he didn't even know what hockey was, he couldn't even hire competent staff to run his team.
- Jethro09

The damage was a 44 point improvement, a packed house and no one complaining at the time which is why you should learn from history and not demand this gm revisit that now.

Funny how in 2006-07 Snow took a team in sixth place and traded Milbury's core for Smyth to take a run at a cup? How many people showed up for that first game against St Louis? 12,500.

This is an interesting game? Holy crap! As far as how much we have to take? The answer is of course as much as we let them feed us. I'm still here as disgruntled and disgusted as I am. Some hate my negative comments on how Snow is going to get a top 4 or 2 Dman this year. Or me laughing at them saying he has to do something this year and he will. Some even hate my fat Asian kid jokes which I can't understand why? Some people never learn and will continue to eat shat. I'd like to think that I'm aware what they're dishing out but in the end I'm still here eating it . God, I hate this (frank)ing team.
- Cptmjl

could be how racist or derogatory it is... but im just grasping at straws here.

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could be how racist or derogatory it is... but im just grasping at straws here.

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- XxNYIxX

Oh geez, you're going to start with this shat? "racist and derogatory". The kid is fat and he is most certainly Asian. Get over it.