Stupid question buthow do you highlight posts btw?
- Cptmjl

Its not a stupic question.

Find the sentence you want to highlight. Left click and hold down your finger. Then slide your curser (arrow or line) across the sentence or word you would like to highlight while holding you finger down on the left side of the mouse. You will see a blue line cover what you want to highlight. Release you finger quickly (the blue line should remain) and go to the bottom and press the B (bottom left) Two b's should appear before and after the sentence you choose to highlight.

Go for it bro!

Thanks, but I'm hiding in shame for participating in the essay contest!
- UIF

That was brutal. I tried to stay out as long as possible.

Could you imagine NYI and I in a battle of the POSTS?????? Heaven help us!

One post could go on for days!

sorry...

so you dont agree with him, because NYI is 100% sticking up for wang...which you werent...
- LetsGoIsles

I'm just sticking up for the fact all these players with options were once again resigned and Wang opened his wallet, even the ones who could have walked took his money.

They even like being part of Charles Wang's team so much most of them took their long-term money backloaded with a lockout coming.

Maybe if I write it in Mandarin?

I don't see how that makes him a "franchise goaltender"? If Snow signed me to a fifteen year contract would that make me a franchise goaltender?
- Cptmjl

Yes

XxNYIxX

That was brutal. I tried to stay out as long as possible.

Could you imagine NYI and I in a battle of the POSTS?????? Heaven help us!

One post could go on for days!
- SCLI

What's brutal was Wang paying everyone with Smg's lease while Mario was handing Jagr to Washington and Kovalev to Cablevision with Smg lease.

I'm not going to repeat the same things again.

If you liked all those prospects so much before Wang was here you should have filled the seats and supported them, instead you let them play before five thousand people.

You demanded action Milbury filled the building and got you a 44 point improvement.

You put Snow in the same position now eventually you will get the same result because you don't support the team.

And spare me about the last 20 years, the building was empty starting in 89, the 92-93 playoffs were not sold out until the second round and the 3-0 Coliseum game in 92-93, the Canadian fans invaded in big numbers.

Same idiots who were booing Bill Torrey at Smith's retirement.

Reading is fundamental. blindly hating is not for me.

You want to really turn it around, save the team and produce a winner. Fill every seat for every game, blast whoever you want but support Tavares and these kids, that's what will force action.

Maybe you have not noticed but the staying home plan is not working and has been going on long before Wang.

Speaking of not relevant the Yankees grab the full back-page and front page of the Daily News over Cablevision Hockey.

That was brutal. I tried to stay out as long as possible.

Could you imagine NYI and I in a battle of the POSTS?????? Heaven help us!

One post could go on for days!
- SCLI

That guy is my new hero!!!

XxNYIxX

What's brutal was Wang paying everyone with Smg's lease while Mario was handing Jagr to Washington and Kovalev to Cablevision with Smg lease.

I'm not going to repeat the same things again.

If you liked all those prospects so much before Wang was here you should have filled the seats and supported them, instead you let them play before five thousand people.

You demanded action Milbury filled the building and got you a 44 point improvement.

You put Snow in the same position now eventually you will get the same result because you don't support the team.

And spare me about the last 20 years, the building was empty starting in 89, the 92-93 playoffs were not sold out until the second round and the 3-0 Coliseum game in 92-93, the Canadian fans invaded in big numbers.

Same idiots who were booing Bill Torrey at Smith's retirement.

Reading is fundamental. blindly hating is not for me.

You want to really turn it around, save the team and produce a winner. Fill every seat for every game, blast whoever you want but support Tavares and these kids, that's what will force action.

Maybe you have not noticed but the staying home plan is not helping and has been going on long before Wang.
- NYI

Are you saying YOU figuratively or literally?

Because if its Literally. You've got a nerve. You dont have any clue as to how I've supported the Isles over the years.

If figuratively. Its a catch 22. Ice a decent team and the fans come out. Ice an AHL team spiced with dinosaurs. And, Well fans arent stupid. We've seen and heard it before.

This can go around and around forever.

Isles have made to many empty promises over the past several yrs. Fans want results before they will continue to spend money that is so hard to come by today.

When the Isle win they draw. Maybe not like NY or Philly. But the Problem is Wang wants a full house regardless of the quality on the ice.

When the Isles/Wang's main concern is reaching the cap floor.

The message to the Fans is loud and clear.

Are you saying YOU figuratively or literally?

Because if its Literally. You've got a nerve. You dont have any clue as to how I've supported the Isles over the years.

If figuratively. Its a catch 22. Ice a decent team and the fans come out. Ice an AHL team spiced with dinosaurs. And, Well fans arent stupid. We've seen and heard it before.

This can go around and around forever.

Isles have made to many empty promises over the past several yrs. Fans want results before they will continue to spend money that is so hard to come by today.

When the Isle win they draw. Maybe not like NY or Philly. But the Problem is Wang wants a full house regardless of the quality on the ice.

When the Isles/Wang's main concern is reaching the cap floor.

The message to the Fans is loud and clear.



- SCLI

Well said. Was that guy really blaming the fans for wang being a joke of an owner and the team sucking arse for the last 25 years??

Well said. Was that guy really blaming the fans for wang being a joke of an owner and the team sucking arse for the last 25 years??
- Vukota

It's like a beaten puppy thinking it's actually at fault for a bad owner's temper. Next time Charles Wang reinvents hockey and makes some absurd "committee" or "15-year contract to a goalie" decision, I'll say, "Shucks, if only I went to last night's game, he'd have been smarter!"

It's like a beaten puppy thinking it's actually at fault for a bad owner's temper. Next time Charles Wang reinvents hockey and makes some absurd "committee" or "15-year contract to a goalie" decision, I'll say, "Shucks, if only I went to last night's game, he'd have been smarter!"
- UIF

That guy is not only drinking the Kool Aid he is bathing and sleeping in it

If figuratively. Its a catch 22. Ice a decent team and the fans come out.
- SCLI

Actually I don't work for anyone, but as a die-hard fan since 1974 I remember everything. Wang's flunkies only know black jerseys.

So where were the fans in 92-93 during the opening round, for most of the Pittsburgh series? Common knowledge those games did not sellout, Smitty at his retirement even told the crowd it's great to see the building full before beating Pittsburgh.

Where were the fans when the team opened 10-1 in 2002?

They sold-out a good part of the second half and the playoffs so Wang finally raised ticket prices to offset the players he signed and people acted like he committed a crime and everyone who was coming stopped again in 02-03.

You (fans) did not support Torrey, Arbour, Pickett, the gang of four, Spano, Pickett II, Milstein or Wang.

Ice an AHL team spiced with dinosaurs. And, Well fans arent stupid. We've seen and heard it before.
- SCLI

Who knew this was Mike Stapleton, Mike Hough, Mark Lawrence and the Ferraro twins on Milbury's corporate bicycle pre Wang to go with Claude LaPointe and Jamie River with the other Jamie?

What's next Bill Torrey did not offer Tonelli a two-way contract after four Stanley Cups?

A good part of the returning 2011-12 team was one of the best in the East during the second half of last season, praised for being one of the hardest working by opposing coaches.

They took a chance on Rolston's great second half on a 22-2 team and added a thirteen goal player in Reasoner for a fourth line.

They iced a team with an 81 point player in Tavares, AHL Moulson with another thirty goal year, AHL Parenteau with almost seventy points. Hamonic, Streit, MacDonald, Streit, Grabner coming off 35 goals and Okposo, Bailey and Nielsen.

They brought back Comeau coming off his back to back 20 goal seasons before giving Ullstrom and Cizikas some games with Rakhshani.

Pandolfo is a dinosaur, so was Staios, bad moves. Should they have kept Thompson, Jackman, Konopka and the other fourth liners who struggled here and could not fight their way out of a paper bag with their -25 ratings?

Nothing they could do about returning Mottau, Eaton, Jurcina, should they have kept Hillen, Martinek over one and kept Wishart over the other or thought Katic would be healthy?

Fair questions.

Isles have made to many empty promises over the past several yrs. Fans want results before they will continue to spend money that is so hard to come by today.
- SCLI

What promises were made beyond Snow sticking to a plan to build a core? Wang promised the team would honor it's lease. That's it.

When the Isle win they draw. Maybe not like NY or Philly. But the Problem is Wang wants a full house regardless of the quality on the ice.
- SCLI

Wang said he wanted a full house, never read such a comment...link?

Of course we all know Howard Milstein said fill the building first.

Florida missed the playoffs ten years in a row, the Isles made four playoffs in five years. Florida has outdrawn the Isles every single year and they gave away Luongo and Jokinen for less than what Milbury got in return. Atlanta outdrew the Isles eight of ten years and are out of business.

Columbus has outdrawn the Isles every single year.

Get real.

When the Isles/Wang's main concern is reaching the cap floor.
- SCLI

Once again why did this owner raise his payroll to 45m before ANY floor?

Tell me what ELC (entry level contract) he's signed that's different than any other teams ELC. How can a team scraping the floor trader Wisniewski and Roloson for no NHL contracts?

Why make any offer to Paul Martin, Ehrhoff by your logic, why give Hunter ten million or extend Witt early? How come the only prospect since the lockout drafted in the third round got a max contract in Anders Nilsson?

Explain how many NHL veterans receive contracts with bonus clauses where the Isles offer are completely different and circumvention?

That guy is not only drinking the Kool Aid he is bathing and sleeping in it
- Vukota

More like some of you are taking a beating worse than Hospidar from Gillies or looking like you kissed the A train like O'Reilly.

That would not be Trevor, or Colton for the kiddies.

Tell me what ELC (entry level contract) he's signed that's different than any other teams ELC. How can a team scraping the floor trader Wisniewski and Roloson for no NHL contracts?

Why make any offer to Paul Martin, Ehrhoff by your logic, why give Hunter ten million or extend Witt early? How come the only prospect since the lockout drafted in the third round got a max contract in Anders Nilsson?

Explain how many NHL veterans receive contracts with bonus clauses where the Isles offer are completely different and circumvention?

Once again, you lose the big picture by looking through a microscope at cherry-picked details. For the love of God...just look at the salary spent. Not the cap number...actual salary. The Islanders were dead last in spending this year...something absurd like $12 million behind the next closest team. Giving Anders Nilsson a whopping $800k or whatever doesn't change that. By the way, they can afford to trade Wiz and Roloson for no contracts because they already had paid enough on those contracts over the course of the season to shed them and comply with the floor. Ditto for Comeau and Rolston this year. If you dump a $5M contract on day one of the season, it's $5M off your cap hit. If you dump it 1/2 way through the season, it's $2.5M, and so on. You can't really believe the stuff you write. Like, somehow if you write long enough, it'll magically mean the Islanders really weren't the least-spending team in the league by a country mile?

Once again, you lose the big picture by looking through a microscope at cherry-picked details.
- UIF

Like Yashin, Peca, DiPietro, Aucoin, Jonsson, Hamrlik and adding Niinimaa's salary?

What's cherry picked about those offers to Martin and Ehrhoff, he said the Isles made a great offer at his press conference. Buffalo's new owner front-loaded and gave him 40m.

My first post I listed everyone on the current team Wang signed, then resigned and the list went about fifteen deep not counting prospects, how is that cherry picked? Oh that's right I went back a few years to the players the fans demanded must be resigned like Witt and Hunter.

For the love of God...just look at the salary spent. Not the cap number...actual salary. The Islanders were dead last in spending this year...something absurd like $12 million behind the next closest team.
- UIF

For the love of god this owner was spending 45m dollars before any cap floor while other teams were spending under 30m without Kate Murray in an old building with low attendance while Mario was handing Kovalev to the Rangers and Jagr in a building managed by Smg like the Coliseum.

Should Snow have voided Nielsen's or MacDonald's excellent four year contracts so they can give them more? Should he have given Moulson five million after year one?

Giving Anders Nilsson a whopping $800k or whatever doesn't change that. By the way, they can afford to trade Wiz and Roloson for no contracts because they already had paid enough on those contracts over the course of the season to shed them and comply with the floor. Ditto for Comeau and Rolston this year. If you dump a $5M contract on day one of the season, it's $5M off your cap hit. If you dump it 1/2 way through the season, it's $2.5M, and so on.
You can't really believe the stuff you write.
- UIF

Comeau was put on waivers 11/25. Grabner was claimed on 10/5, Schremp was claimed 9/29. Roloson and Wisniewski were moved in Dec, not March.

Those waivers have gone both ways.

Can you believe all the stuff you write? How many high salary players did Snow trade all these years who were playing well?

Bottom line the Isles payroll will be going up as these contract progress and you cannot dismiss a history of an owner outspending many teams for years because then you are doing some cherry picking of your own.

Like Yashin, Peca, DiPietro, Aucion, Hamrlik and adding Niinimaa's salary?

What's cherry picked about those offers to Martin and Ehrhoff, he said the Isles made a great offer at his press conference. Buffalo's new owner front-loaded and gave him 40m.

My first post I listed everyone on the current team Wang signed, then resigned and the list went about fifteen deep not counting prospects, how is that cherry picked? Oh that's right I went back a few years to the players the fans demanded must be resigned like Witt and Hunter.



For the love of god this owner was spending 45m dollars before any cap floor while other teams were spending under 30m without Kate Murray in an old building with low attendance while Mario was handing Kovalev to the Rangers.

Should Snow have voided Nielsen's or MacDonald's excellent four year contracts so they can give them more? Should he have given Moulson five million after year one?



Comeau was put on waivers 11/25. Grabner was claimed on 10/5, Schremp was claimed 9/29. Roloson and Wisniewski were moved in Dec, not March.

Those waivers have gone both ways.

Can you believe all the stuff you write? How many high salary players did Wang move all these years who were playing well?

Bottom line the Isles payroll will be going up as these contract progress and you cannot dismiss a history of an owner outspending many teams for years because you are doing some cherry picking of your own.
- NYI

What does December or March have to do with it? I'll write it slowly for you ...p-r-o-r-a-t-e-d s-a-l-a-r-y. As the season goes on, the numbers go down. In December, the number you shed is less than it was in October.

Bottom line is, after all the paragraphs of names and dates, by the end of the season, how much salary did the Islanders spend? The answer is, far less than any other team. If you go by actual salary spent (Danformo broke it down the other week...how many bonuses were actually reached and paid, etc.), it's non-competitive with even the thriftiest of teams.

I don't deny at all that Wang spent money in the past in the ancient history when Pittsburgh didn't have its building. He is not spending anymore. As the arena stuff started coming to a head, Wang tightened the purse strings. That's about as solid of a truth as gravity. Heck, I can even understand why he's not spending. But to say, no, he really is spending is pretty far out there.

Last point and then you can have the final word, because I'm not getting into the essay contest again tonight...with Ehrhoff...the Islanders had to spend that kind of money somewhere, they were miles under the cap floor this past offseason. Take Rolston's cap hit, minus Hunter's, plus Pandolfo's, plus Staios, and I bet you get to right about what the Islanders offered Ehrhoff. If not, Nino's bonuses make up the difference. That offer didn't happen in a vacuum. It's money that has to be spent to comply with league rules.

What does December or March have to do with it? I'll write it slowly for you ...p-r-o-r-a-t-e-d s-a-l-a-r-y. As the season goes on, the numbers go down. In December, the number you shed is less than it was in October.
- UIF

I'll write it slowly for you too, the Isles added and kept players off waivers, they called up Wishart later....p-r..o..r...a...t...e....d and did the same with Hamonic, Ullstrom, Cizikas and others.

Did you ever consider this 620 man games lost to injury team was signing every ATO/PTO prospect they could find just to finish out 2010-2011?

Bottom line is, after all the paragraphs of names and dates, by the end of the season, how much salary did the Islanders spend? The answer is, far less than any other team. If you go by actual salary spent (Danformo broke it down the other week...how many bonuses were actually reached and paid, etc.), it's non-competitive with even the thriftiest of teams.
- UIF

What specific bonuses were offered to what specific players? How were they different than any other NHL team and why would any agent accept that for his client?

I don't deny at all that Wang spent money in the past in the ancient history when Pittsburgh didn't have its building. He is not spending anymore. As the arena stuff started coming to a head, Wang tightened the purse strings. That's about as solid of a truth as gravity.
- UIF

We must have different conceptions of gravity.

The arena stuff has been coming to a head since 1991, after losing 20m dollars on the Lighthouse this is what he did with his wallet.

Tavares-Signed/Resigned
Moulson-Signed/Resigned
Grabner-Signed
Nielsen-Signed/Resigned
Okposo-Signed/Resigned
Bailey-Signed/Resigned
Streit-Signed
Hamonic-Signed
Nelson-Signed/Resigned
MacDonald-Signed
Strome-Signed
Niederreter-Signed
Nabkov-Tolled-Resigned
Martin/Signed-now RFA

Parenteau-Wants to be resigned.

Donovan/Signed
Ness/Signed
Kabanov/Signed
Poulin/Signed
Nilsson/Signed
Koskinen/Signed
Joensuu/Signed-Qualified
Rakhshani-Signed
DiBenedetto-Signed
Marcinko-Signed

Last point and then you can have the final word, because I'm not getting into the essay contest again tonight...with Ehrhoff...the Islanders had to spend that kind of money somewhere, they were miles under the cap floor this past offseason.
- UIF

But Ehrhoff did not take it, the Isles reportedly did not make such a big offer to anyone else so obviously they did not have to do anything.

Take Rolston's cap hit, minus Hunter's, plus Pandolfo's, plus Staios, and I bet you get to right about what the Islanders offered Ehrhoff.
- UIF

Sounds nice, reads well but misses on fact Isles passed on Rolston as a re-entry waiver when he was not producing in Dec 2011. Also Katic got hurt in camp and deHaan was here with his max ELC in his fourth year vs Niederreiter.

Also you got a cheap former first rounder in Wishart who was plus five last year in twenty games?

By that logic Snow should have called up Javonovski with his over 35 contract and given him Ehrhoff's offer instead of the four years sixteen million or traded for Brian Campbell's horrible contract.

It also omits Paul Martin got his offer and we saw no such scrambling the previous summer.

Pittsburgh brought back Richard Park from Switzerland.

One final thing, if Wang were this cheap why did he fly in kids teams from around the world for the fifth year in a row for the Lighthouse Tournament, why did he house them and many other local teams for close to a week in 2012 out of his own pocket, take them to games all over New York/New Jersey when no one wrote about it?

That's my final word too, sorry if we disagree.

I'll write it slowly for you too, the Isles added and kept players off waivers, they called up Wishart later....p-r..o..r...a...t...e....d and did the same with Hamonic, Ullstrom, Cizikas and others.

Did you ever consider this 620 man games lost to injury team was signing every ATO/PTO prospect they could find just to finish out 2010-2011?



What specific bonuses were offered to what specific players? How were they different than any other NHL team and why would any agent accept that for his client?





We must have different conceptions of gravity.

The arena stuff has been coming to a head since 1991, after losing 20m dollars on the Lighthouse this is what he did with his wallet.

Tavares-Signed/Resigned
Moulson-Signed/Resigned
Grabner-Signed
Nielsen-Signed/Resigned
Okposo-Signed/Resigned
Bailey-Signed/Resigned
Streit-Signed
Hamonic-Signed
Nelson-Signed/Resigned
MacDonald-Signed
Strome-Signed
Niederreter-Signed
Nabkov-Tolled-Resigned
Martin/Signed-now RFA

Parenteau-Wants to be resigned.

Donovan/Signed
Ness/Signed
Kabanov/Signed
Poulin/Signed
Nilsson/Signed
Koskinen/Signed
Joensuu/Signed-Qualified
Rakhshani-Signed
DiBenedetto-Signed
Marcinko-Signed



But Ehrhoff did not take it, the Isles reportedly did not make such a big offer to anyone else so obviously they did not have to do anything.



Sounds nice, reads well but misses on fact Isles passed on Rolston as a re-entry waiver when he was not producing in Dec 2011. Also Katic got hurt in camp and deHaan was here with his max ELC in his fourth year vs Niederreiter.

Also you got a cheap former first rounder in Wishart who was plus five last year in twenty games?

By that logic Snow should have called up Javonovski with his over 35 contract and given him Ehrhoff's offer instead of the four years sixteen million or traded for Brian Campbell's horrible contract.

It also omits Paul Martin got his offer and we saw no such scrambling the previous summer.

Pittsburgh brought back Richard Park from Switzerland.

One final thing, if Wang were this cheap why did he fly in kids teams from around the world for the fifth year in a row for the Lighthouse Tournament, why did he house them and many other local teams for close to a week in 2012 out of his own pocket, take them to games all over New York/New Jersey when no one wrote about it?

That's my final word too, sorry if we disagree.
- NYI

After reading your posts i want to name my next child after Charles Wang!!

XxNYIxX

More like some of you are taking a beating worse than Hospidar from Gillies or looking like you kissed the A train like O'Reilly.

That would not be Trevor, or Colton for the kiddies.
- NYI

Not me pal. I don't even read 3/4 of the crap you're posting. I'm convinced you're Butch Goring. I can barely get through listening to you for 82 games during the season. No way I'm chatting with you on message board during the offseason. See you and your pom poms in October

Well said. Was that guy really blaming the fans for wang being a joke of an owner and the team sucking arse for the last 25 years??
- Vukota

Yes. That's exactly what he's been implying. Its everyone else's fault but Milbury, Wang and Snow that the Isles can't win anything.

I'll write it slowly for you too, the Isles added and kept players off waivers, they called up Wishart later....p-r..o..r...a...t...e....d and did the same with Hamonic, Ullstrom, Cizikas and others.

Did you ever consider this 620 man games lost to injury team was signing every ATO/PTO prospect they could find just to finish out 2010-2011?



What specific bonuses were offered to what specific players? How were they different than any other NHL team and why would any agent accept that for his client?



We must have different conceptions of gravity.

The arena stuff has been coming to a head since 1991, after losing 20m dollars on the Lighthouse this is what he did with his wallet.

Tavares-Signed/Resigned
Moulson-Signed/Resigned
Grabner-Signed
Nielsen-Signed/Resigned
Okposo-Signed/Resigned
Bailey-Signed/Resigned
Streit-Signed
Hamonic-Signed
Nelson-Signed/Resigned
MacDonald-Signed
Strome-Signed
Niederreter-Signed
Nabkov-Tolled-Resigned
Martin/Signed-now RFA

Parenteau-Wants to be resigned.

Donovan/Signed
Ness/Signed
Kabanov/Signed
Poulin/Signed
Nilsson/Signed
Koskinen/Signed
Joensuu/Signed-Qualified
Rakhshani-Signed
DiBenedetto-Signed
Marcinko-Signed

But Ehrhoff did not take it, the Isles reportedly did not make such a big offer to anyone else so obviously they did not have to do anything.



Sounds nice, reads well but misses on fact Isles passed on Rolston as a re-entry waiver when he was not producing in Dec 2011. Also Katic got hurt in camp and deHaan was here with his max ELC in his fourth year vs Niederreiter.

Also you got a cheap former first rounder in Wishart who was plus five last year in twenty games?

By that logic Snow should have called up Javonovski with his over 35 contract and given him Ehrhoff's offer instead of the four years sixteen million or traded for Brian Campbell's horrible contract.

It also omits Paul Martin got his offer and we saw no such scrambling the previous summer.

Pittsburgh brought back Richard Park from Switzerland.

One final thing, if Wang were this cheap why did he fly in kids teams from around the world for the fifth year in a row for the Lighthouse Tournament, why did he house them and many other local teams for close to a week in 2012 out of his own pocket, take them to games all over New York/New Jersey when no one wrote about it?

That's my final word too, sorry if we disagree.
- NYI

Its amazing to me. You want to give Wang a medal and place him on a pedestal for signing...players. He owns a f-ing professional hockey team. He doesn't get a medal or praise for simply signing players that the organization drafts. He's obligated to do that. That's like praising players for being able to lace their own skates before they hit the ice.

I have been saying this forever....Milbury effed this franchise so badly that it had no choice but to do what it did. If he had simply kept all the players he picked from 1998-2003, and picked the players he SHOULD HAVE in 2000 and 2001, this team would have been good a long time ago, and the building issue would likely be resolved by now. He was and is still the problem....until these kids get to be good on their own, no one good will sign here. It is what it is.

Its amazing to me. You want to give Wang a medal and place him on a pedestal for signing...players. He owns a f-ing professional hockey team. He doesn't get a medal or praise for simply signing players that the organization drafts. He's obligated to do that.
- Jethro09

No medal, no pedestal, just some truth whether the team won or not.

Prior to 2006 CBA he was not obligated to do a single thing.

He raised payroll from 14m to 45m with no floor.

He could have been like Mario or Milstein and sold off anyone and everyone because they had Smg's lease like Wang does.

What did Wang do? 88 million dollars for Yashin, 20m for Peca, Aucoin, Jonsson, Hamrlik, Niimimaa, claiming Osgood with 68 million for DiPietro, 36 million for Tavares and at the very least big offers for Smyth, Martin and Ehrhoff that we know of. He made sure this franchise finally had an AHL home and paid to save that too when Roy Boe's checks started bouncing again.

All the time renovating a building he did not own as a tenant.

I have been saying this forever....Milbury effed this franchise so badly that it had no choice but to do what it did..
- dcb1

Wrong. Milbury had five different owners, one month he was told spend, the next month he was told to get rid of players. The fans did not support the prospects which they should have done if they thought they were that good.

If you liked Chara, Luongo, Bertuzzi and McCabe the public should have supported them.

Milbury's been gone since 2006, it's time for a new excuse to not support Tavares, Moulson, Hamonic and these kids.

The building issues was going on in 1991 after four stanley cups.

No one good signs ANYWHERE without front-loaded money. 20+ teams do not frontload contracts, including Toronto and Montreal.

A team in the second oldest building with terrible attendance cannot front-load.

Front loading means James Wisniewski got a ten million dollar check for 2011-12.
It means Richards got a twenty million dollar check from Cablevision for 2011-12.
It means Ehrhoff is getting eighteen of his forty million in 2011-12, 2012-13.
It means Bryzgalov made ten million dollars to not stop pucks for Comcast/NBC in 2011-12.

Not me pal. I don't even read 3/4 of the crap you're posting. I'm convinced you're Butch Goring. I can barely get through listening to you for 82 games during the season. No way I'm chatting with you on message board during the offseason. See you and your pom poms in October
- Vukota

You sure do respond to it though?

You should have more respect for a man who brought this team four championships.

I'm Butch Goring? That means Charles Wang fired me long ago, everyone in the alumni was furious about that. I now work for Dolan on his network to hide Islander games on Msg+10 in mores code.

No medal, no pedestal, just some truth whether the team won or not.

Prior to 2006 CBA he was not obligated to do a single thing.

He raised payroll from 14m to 45m with no floor.

He could have been like Mario or Milstein and sold off anyone and everyone because they had Smg's lease like Wang does.

What did Wang do? 88 million dollars for Yashin, 20m for Peca, Aucoin, Jonsson, Hamrlik, Niimimaa, claiming Osgood with 68 million for DiPietro, 36 million for Tavares and at the very least big offers for Smyth, Martin and Ehrhoff that we know of. He made sure this franchise finally had an AHL home and paid to save that too when Roy Boe's checks started bouncing again.

All the time renovating a building he did not own as a tenant.
- NYI

He wasn't obligated to do a thing? You mean he, as an owner of a team, didn't have an obligation to put players on the ice? There was no floor, but teams were still obligated to ice teams. Again, you are trying to make Wang look good by comparing him to an abomination of an owner in Milstein. Anyone would look like a superstar compared to Milstein. Milstein was so inept the NFL owners wouldn't approve him be a league owner when he tried to buy the Redskins. Comparing Wang to Milstein is like comparing a dog's turd to a cat's.

You make it seem like he should be commended for signing players the team drafted. Every owner in the league is expected to do that. It doesn't warrant praise. Lets not act as if he went out and broke the bank to sign elite talent. With the exception of JT, Moulson and Streit, none of the guys on your "list" are anything more than guys who are either RFA's that Q.O.'s keep around because they aren't unrestriced yet, prospects or also-rans.

You salute Wang for giving Yashin a 10-year contract for $90M. Every other GM and owner in the sport knew that it was a mistake. That giving RDP a 15 year deal is commendable. Here's a news flash for you: just because an owner spends on payroll, doesn't make him a good owner. Want "Proof" of that? Look no further than owners you loved to cite in your other posts: Charles and James Dolan. they ran the Rangers and the Knicks into the ground for years despite throwing money into payroll. There's more to being a good owner than having a large player payroll.