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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: Are Some Big Teams Banking on Amnesty in the New CBA? (+I WAS WRONG)
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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 16 @ 2:49 PM ET
have you looked at Briere's playoff stats compared to all players on your roster? just curious...
- big_dion


yeh I am with you. Briere earns his money in the post season.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

May 16 @ 2:52 PM ET
yeh I am with you. Briere earns his money in the post season.
- Eklund

But no one gets paid in the post season. So wouldn't that mean even a guy like, lets say Semin who did nothing except skate 'hard' earned his money?
p_zub
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 16 @ 2:56 PM ET
If there's a lockout for all 2012-2013 season, what will happened with the 2013 draft order ? a full lottery like the Crosby year ?
- HabsKovalev27


In that year, even though all 30 had a chance at #1, it was still heavily weighted towards the teams who were bottom feeders the year before.
Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 16 @ 2:56 PM ET
But no one gets paid in the post season. So wouldn't that mean even a guy like, lets say Semin who did nothing except skate 'hard' earned his money?
- Oilhab


no. because ironically while guys aren't getting paid in the post-season, by playing well and extending the playoffs they are making their teams millions more.
Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 16 @ 2:56 PM ET
Update: Per Kevin Allen. The NHL sends CBA termination notice to players association See article HERE
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

May 16 @ 2:57 PM ET
no. because ironically while guys aren't getting paid in the post-season, by playing well and extending the playoffs they are making their teams millions more.
- Eklund


False.

Good play in the playoffs is taken into consideration when negotiating their next contract.

For instance, if it wasn't for this year's playoffs, do you think that Penner would get as much as he will probably get this offseason?
ubiqty
Season Ticket Holder
Boston Bruins
Location: Peterborough, NH
Joined: 01.29.2010

May 16 @ 2:58 PM ET
So the Bruins, who have managed their cap money well, lose because they shouldn't have or didn't need to. I enjoy knowing that other teams with poor financial managers for decision makers are unable to bid on players because of their shortsightedness.

Why should we be penalized for excellent cap management?

Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

May 16 @ 3:00 PM ET
False.

Good play in the playoffs is taken into consideration when negotiating their next contract.

For instance, if it wasn't for this year's playoffs, do you think that Penner would get as much as he will probably get this offseason?

- mfreedman


If someone pays Penner anymore then he is getting now, it will be the biggest mistake since Gomez
Not_Sure42
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.15.2010

May 16 @ 3:00 PM ET
So the Bruins, who have managed their cap money well, lose because they shouldn't have or didn't need to. I enjoy knowing that other teams with poor financial managers for decision makers are unable to bid on players because of their shortsightedness.

Why should we be penalized for excellent cap management?

- ubiqty


what happens if savard gets better and now you have to resign seguin
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 16 @ 3:01 PM ET
if you had 6 defensemen on the team better than Michalek, do you feel like you should be forced to play him because a Devils fan doesn't like the contract you gave him? or would you rather him be sent to the minors because he isn't good enough?
- jimbro83


You should have to live with your mistakes. Doing this takes accountability on GM's and owners out of the game. It's a slippery slope.
ubiqty
Season Ticket Holder
Boston Bruins
Location: Peterborough, NH
Joined: 01.29.2010

May 16 @ 3:02 PM ET
what happens if savard gets better and now you have to resign seguin
- Not_Sure42


Savard isn't ever returning to the ice as a Bruin. Almost a fact.

LTIR is different than amnesty.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

May 16 @ 3:02 PM ET
So the Bruins, who have managed their cap money well, lose because they shouldn't have or didn't need to. I enjoy knowing that other teams with poor financial managers for decision makers are unable to bid on players because of their shortsightedness.

Why should we be penalized for excellent cap management?

- ubiqty


Hopefully there will be more owners that think this way then think that every CBA is their big chance for a do over.

Not_Sure42
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.15.2010

May 16 @ 3:04 PM ET
Savard isn't ever returning to the ice as a Bruin. Almost a fact.

LTIR is different than amnesty.

- ubiqty


if he is cleared to play he cant be on LTIR
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

May 16 @ 3:05 PM ET
what happens if savard gets better and now you have to resign seguin
- Not_Sure42


Savard has a hug cap hit of 4 mil, I'm sure if he gets a brain transplant and is healthy to return, the Bruins will be able to find the room for him without having to sacrifice Seguin

Also, I doubt teams will be allowed to buy out a player who is on LTIR
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 16 @ 3:05 PM ET
You should have to live with your mistakes. Doing this takes accountability on GM's and owners out of the game. It's a slippery slope.
- Oneonta Penguin


who is to say what players you are and aren't allowed to send to the minors?

StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

May 16 @ 3:07 PM ET
Kings are winning the Stanley Cup, going through not only the hardest schedule ever (1-2-3-1) but also possibly the most dominant playoff performance ever.

I don't believe in jinx's, nor do I care that I am a homer.

As far as this CBA goes, I hope they don't sign it for a year or two so the Kings can be Stanley Cup champs for a while.
LizzyJo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 07.11.2010

May 16 @ 3:09 PM ET
omg!!

bye bye leino.
scootty
Joined: 10.11.2006

May 16 @ 3:11 PM ET
Wait, how is Carters contract crippling the Kings?
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

May 16 @ 3:11 PM ET
If there is a lockout I'm going to be vey bored other sports suck... all I'll have left is ... AHL? or does the NHL CBA affect the AHL as well?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 16 @ 3:11 PM ET
Wait, how is Carters contract crippling the Kings?
- scootty


pretty good question
bluecoconuts
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.13.2010

May 16 @ 3:12 PM ET

As far as this CBA goes, I hope they don't sign it for a year or two so the Kings can be Stanley Cup champs for a while.

- StayTunedMTC


Kings roster only gets stronger next year, I'd rather gamble for another run than go a year without hockey.
ubiqty
Season Ticket Holder
Boston Bruins
Location: Peterborough, NH
Joined: 01.29.2010

May 16 @ 3:12 PM ET
if he is cleared to play he cant be on LTIR
- Not_Sure42


He's not going to be cleared to play. He's still messed up and hasn't played for almost a year.

It's not surprising that amnesty supporters are Toronto, Montreal, Philadelphia, Vancouver and Rangers fans.

StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

May 16 @ 3:13 PM ET
Kings roster only gets stronger next year, I'd rather gamble for another run than go a year without hockey.
- bluecoconuts

Yeah I would too. Just being an ass.
Not_Sure42
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.15.2010

May 16 @ 3:15 PM ET
He's not going to be cleared to play. He's still messed up and hasn't played for almost a year.

It's not surprising that amnesty supporters are Toronto, Montreal, Philadelphia, Vancouver and Rangers fans.

- ubiqty


what about lombardi, no one thought he would be ready that quick.... crap happens... just saying
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

May 16 @ 3:15 PM ET
He's not going to be cleared to play. He's still messed up and hasn't played for almost a year.

It's not surprising that amnesty supporters are Toronto, Montreal, Philadelphia, Vancouver and Rangers fans.

- ubiqty


Toronto only slightly... No one has crippling contracts, just large ones compared to their skill level ex. Komi + Lombardi both around 4-5 million. Not like it's 7-9 million like some teams. Toronto can survive without the Salary dump. 1 more year and I believe those contracts are off the books anyway.
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