What do the Leafs gain by doing this deal? Even if you ignore the fact that Columbus has almost zero use for half of those players and would never make that deal, the Leafs don't exactly get ahead on this deal either.

Kulemin and MacArthur can score 20 goals each. Right off the bat, that's the 40 goals Nash could or would produce. Add to that a 1st round pick prospect and one of their top four defenders plus a goalie with decent potential.

And, the Leafs don't address any of their needs. Still have no goalie. Still have no defense. Still have no center. Still have no true power forward. Nash is big but isn't exactly Milan Lucic in terms of physicality.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, the most the Leafs should pay for Nash is Lupul, Gunnarsson and Kadri. Columbus would never go for a deal like that but beyond that price, the Leafs are only hurting themselves by acquiring another player that doesn't fix their problems.

I will also add that if the Leafs were to acquire Nash, they would have to trade Kessel for a center. Having both of them is just redundant.
- Unholy_Goalie

And you bashed my trade proposal of Franson/Schenn + Kuli/Mac + 2nd/Colborne/Kadri...

You've essentially just offered up the same deal above.

You just keep getting better.

Kulemin, Macarthur, Gunnerson, Scrivens, Tyler Biggs for Nash.

In my point of view, scrivens value has risen to a good amount and tyler biggs was a first rounder. What do you guys think? we dont give up our 1st rounder this year 2012, we keep kadri, colborne, gardiner, schenn, blacker, etc our key prospects, giving up guys that can be replaced.
- Mapleleafs_91

Brutal.... 2 terrible proposals in like 40mins. Does the late night bring out the stupid?

I wanna ramble on some thoughts here..

1) We trade komi+ for luongo
2) Trade for stewart, we dont even have to trade big mac, he would cost cheap anyways
3) Trade kulemin, gunner, 2nd rounder 2012, armdog for stasny


lineup:

Kessel Stasny Lupul

Big Mac Grabo Kadri

Stewart Bozak Frattin

Crabbs Stecks Brown



Blacker Phaneuf

Gardiner Schenn

Liles Franson

Luongo
Reimer


Other notes:

1) Nash costs to much
2) staal is being resigned
3) perry and getzlaf are being resigned cause ducks have so much money
4) Throw money at parise and suter
- Mapleleafs_91

Stop putting Blacker on the 1st D pair, let alone in the NHL next year. He's not ready yet.

I wanna ramble on some thoughts here..

1) We trade komi+ for luongo
2) Trade for stewart, we dont even have to trade big mac, he would cost cheap anyways
3) Trade kulemin, gunner, 2nd rounder 2012, armdog for stasny


lineup:

Kessel Stasny Lupul

Big Mac Grabo Kadri

Stewart Bozak Frattin

Crabbs Stecks Brown



Blacker Phaneuf

Gardiner Schenn

Liles Franson

Luongo
Reimer


Other notes:

1) Nash costs to much
2) staal is being resigned
3) perry and getzlaf are being resigned cause ducks have so much money
4) Throw money at parise and suter
- Mapleleafs_91

As if the alternative names or any combination of them is an adequate price.


- Unholy_Goalie

Schenn/Franson ~= Gunnerson
Mac/Kuli ~= Lupul
2nd/Colborne/Kadri ~= Kadri

Stop putting Blacker on the 1st D pair, let alone in the NHL next year. He's not ready yet.
- burn

That really bugs me too lol

Apparently a rookie dman in the Marlies will make the jump to top pairing defender next season.

That really bugs me too lol

Apparently a rookie dman in the Marlies will make the jump to top pairing defender next season.
- jbold

Yeah, really.... especially when he wasn't the go-to dman this year. He'll be a fine player someday, but he's not ready next year. He' still young, he just turned 21 last month for (frank) sakes.

That really bugs me too lol

Apparently a rookie dman in the Marlies will make the jump to top pairing defender next season.
- jbold

Blacker WILL play in the NHL next year.....with ANOTHER team!!!

Yeah, really.... especially when he wasn't the go-to dman this year. He'll be a fine player someday, but he's not ready next year. He' still young, he just turned 21 last month for (frank) sakes.
- burn

already 21 and he hasnt played a single game at the NHL level yet??




Oooooooohoooooh. I smell a bust.....

already 21 and he hasnt played a single game at the NHL level yet??




Oooooooohoooooh. I smell a bust.....
- noename09

Never mind, I farted.

I hope to GOD the Leafs get Nash and Luongo this year....that way they can entice Parise to sign here and then make a solid run in the playoffs. If the Devils proves anything, its that defensive hockey and a good goalie can steal you games. Leafs will make it FAR this year when we get Nash, Luongo and Parise.

i should be at home playing diablo 3.

fml

I hope to GOD the Leafs get Nash and Luongo this year....that way they can entice Parise to sign here and then make a solid run in the playoffs. If the Devils proves anything, its that defensive hockey and a good goalie can steal you games. Leafs will make it FAR this year when we get Nash, Luongo and Parise.







- noename09

^--------- is that pessimism?

Brutal.... 2 terrible proposals in like 40mins. Does the late night bring out the stupid?
- burn

The only way I would be willing to trade for Nash is if it involved one of:

Kessel, Lupul, or Phaneuf.

If we are going to trade for another winger, there is no reason to trade away our #1 pick, as that is our BEST CHANCE at getting ourselves a #1 centre, whether through the draft or through trade.

I am also not saying that any of those 3 would get Nash straight up, or that Kessel included for Nash is a great idea, but that would be the only way we could prevent our #1 pick from being in the trade.

Actually, I dont even kno if Phaneuf has that much trade value, it might have to be Lupul.

^--------- is that pessimism?
- LeftCoaster

it was bait

it was bait
- noename09

I hope you get Malkin too!

i should be at home playing diablo 3.

fml
- big_dion

True dat

Ron Wilson to coach the Washington Capitals. (LL5)

DIABLO 3!!!!

Someone give me a time machine so I can skip the work day and go home and play it....



Anyone?

Ron Wilson to coach the Washington Capitals. (LL5)
- Leafland

might as well lose playing entertaining hockey......

I wanna ramble on some thoughts here..

1) We trade komi+ for luongo
2) Trade for stewart, we dont even have to trade big mac, he would cost cheap anyways
3) Trade kulemin, gunner, 2nd rounder 2012, armdog for stasny


lineup:

Kessel Stasny Lupul

Big Mac Grabo Kadri

Stewart Bozak Frattin

Crabbs Stecks Brown



Blacker Phaneuf

Gardiner Schenn

Liles Franson

Luongo
Reimer


Other notes:

1) Nash costs to much
2) staal is being resigned
3) perry and getzlaf are being resigned cause ducks have so much money
4) Throw money at parise and suter
- Mapleleafs_91

Simple as that

Simple as that
- Oilhab

...yup, komisarek for luongo. its just that easy.

I didnt go that far back..but why is Pitts trading Malkin for Nash? ... or trading malkin at all?

i should be at home playing diablo 3.

fml
- big_dion

I know...I'm at work until tonight

I hope to GOD the Leafs get Nash and Luongo this year....that way they can entice Parise to sign here and then make a solid run in the playoffs. If the Devils proves anything, its that defensive hockey and a good goalie can steal you games. Leafs will make it FAR this year when we get Nash, Luongo and Parise.







- noename09

if