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No look behind the back cross ice passes in your own zone also defies logic. - nails
I like Laviolette, but I think he will be replaced sooner rather than later. Just not a big enough commitment to playing the defensive side of the puck. Might be more of a personnel issue than the coach, but it's easier to replace the coach. |
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I don't know about you guys ... but I'm really down on JvR. - FlyerGuy
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I think if you can make a series shorter it certainly can help, and will cut down on possible injuries, but I think you need to play hard the entire time to make those series' shorter. I thought they were just playing their up tempo system against Pitt. I don't think there was anything more than that in that series. - eayost
Their defensive lapses in their own zone were brutal. Game 4 two goals given up when guys are beaten to the back post is inexcusable in the playoffs. The Sykora and Zilicky goals, guys have to be covered they cannot be left that open, ridiculous. Devils players were left unmarked the entire series. |
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I'm not. It was a lost Season for JVR. I said it before he even came back. To expect him to play at a high level after missing that much time. Not realistic. He had numerous serious injuries. Let him have a healthy Season, hopefully, and then see what he can do. - MJL
i hope other people feel that way
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No look behind the back cross ice passes in your own zone also defies logic. - nails
It felt like EVERY pass was across the ice or into someone's skates. Crazy making.
And they did play harder tonight, but they played harder while looking like headless chickens. |
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I like Laviolette, but I think he will be replaced sooner rather than later. Just not a big enough commitment to playing the defensive side of the puck. Might be more of a personnel issue than the coach, but it's easier to replace the coach. - PLindbergh31
I don't know, homer made it evident that he can move anyone. |
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i hope other people feel that way - Don'tForgetTocchet
I hope the people making the decision feel that way. I'd hate to give up on any of the young guys. |
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He didn't play well thats for sure in fact he was like a ghost out there. - stveshdy
Yup, but I suppose he gets a pass based on injuries. It is hard to miss 7 weeks, and just be thrust into a playoff series. If he can't stay healthy and be productive next year, it certainly is fair to question his development. |
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MJL
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I like Laviolette, but I think he will be replaced sooner rather than later. Just not a big enough commitment to playing the defensive side of the puck. Might be more of a personnel issue than the coach, but it's easier to replace the coach. - PLindbergh31
Unless things go really bad in a Season. Laviolette isn't going anywhere. He did a great job this year. The team was completely changed with the trades. Numerous Rookies placed in key roles. Pronger lost for the Season. And he plays a style that Holmgren wants to play. He is in no danger of losing his job.
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i hope other people feel that way - Don'tForgetTocchet
Some will, some won't.
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Flyers had a good year, and the young guys got to taste some playoff victory and defeat. Good experience all around to grow from, which was really what this year was supposed to be about before the team gelled into something better than most expected. Losing sucks, but there's a lot to build off of. Last year they took a lot of steps backwards and that Boston series stung more than this one. Totally revamped roster was pretty good this year, and I expect it'll be even better the next.
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It felt like EVERY pass was across the ice or into someone's skates. Crazy making.
And they did play harder tonight, but they played harder while looking like headless chickens. - bodiva88
Everything seemed rushed and a panic with the passes. I really believe they were beat mentally with the pressure of the Devils. It got in their heads imo. |
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I don't know about you guys ... but I'm really down on JvR. - FlyerGuy
I would give him 1 more year. Pad up his stats at the very least. I doubt we get anyone meaningful for him. |
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I don't know, homer made it evident that he can move anyone. - nails
True, trading JVR would be trading him for pennies on the dollar coming of this season. I want no part of Luke Schenn. Not sure anyone would trade a top d-man for JVR. He's more of a lottery ticket, then a given. |
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Yup, but I suppose he gets a pass based on injuries. It is hard to miss 7 weeks, and just be thrust into a playoff series. If he can't stay healthy and be productive next year, it certainly is fair to question his development. - PLindbergh31
I'm not sure what JvR is going to be at this point. His development is still on going. |
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Unless things go really bad in a Season. Laviolette isn't going anywhere. He did a great job this year. The team was completely changed with the trades. Numerous Rookies placed in key roles. Pronger lost for the Season. And he plays a style that Holmgren wants to play. He is in no danger of losing his job. - MJL
He's been gone for so long, it is easy to forget how important a piece he was for the team. The whole offseason greatly depends on how his health situation improves or stays the same. |
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He's been gone for so long, it is easy to forget how important a piece he was for the team. The whole offseason greatly depends on how his health situation improves or stays the same. - ravishingone
The Flyers have some tough decisions to make. The toughest one is how to proceed with Pronger.
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I'm not sure what JvR is going to be at this point. His development is still on going. - stveshdy
Yes it is. Takes bigger, younger guys longer to develop usually. Next year is monumental in his development. His cap hit triples. Can't carry his current production at a 4.25 number. |
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bodiva88
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Unless things go really bad in a Season. Laviolette isn't going anywhere. He did a great job this year. The team was completely changed with the trades. Numerous Rookies placed in key roles. Pronger lost for the Season. And he plays a style that Holmgren wants to play. He is in no danger of losing his job. - MJL
Laviolette's willingness to play the young guys and ability to build their confidence and games has been great to see. And it will serve the team well in the future.
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He's been gone for so long, it is easy to forget how important a piece he was for the team. The whole offseason greatly depends on how his health situation improves or stays the same. - ravishingone
Pronger is never playing again. You can pretty much take it to the bank. |
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I'm not. It was a lost Season for JVR. I said it before he even came back. To expect him to play at a high level after missing that much time. Not realistic. He had numerous serious injuries. Let him have a healthy Season, hopefully, and then see what he can do. - MJL
Even there I have my doubts. Did you see him try a lot harder after his dumb penalty? Well, why was he not throwing his body around like that all game? I see an absence of intensity.
Speaking of which, I saw more intensity in Schenn and esp Read's game. Nice to see. Hard to believe Read will be 26 in a month! |
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The Flyers have some tough decisions to make. The toughest one is how to proceed with Pronger. - MJL
Agreed, the real positive for me this year was the organizational depth the club really had, more then expected. |
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The Flyers have some tough decisions to make. The toughest one is how to proceed with Pronger. - MJL
The one thing I know for sure is that Homer wont sit on his hands and wait. Right now they will have Timonen, Mez, Coburn, and Grossmann.
Carle probably gone. Pronger career in jeopardy. Lilja depth defeseman. Kubina gone.
Gus needs more experience. MAB was decent player. |
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