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Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 9 @ 4:38 PM ET
I'll cut him slack due to his injury... I'll start to judge the guy after next season. If he ends up in the NHL, where do you see him playing? 3rd liner?
- laughs2907

A good 3rd liner. Comparisons (statistically justified) from the Copper and Blue compared him to Ryan Kesler. I might compare him to Shawn Horcoff or Jarret Stoll.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 4:41 PM ET
I'll cut him slack due to his injury... I'll start to judge the guy after next season. If he ends up in the NHL, where do you see him playing? 3rd liner?
- laughs2907

I see the 2nd line potential now. Should be able to fit into the bottom 6 by the end of next year if he continues to grow. Sounds like he has jumped everyone and would be the first callup if the Oilers were still playing meaningful hockey.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 4:44 PM ET
A good 3rd liner. Comparisons (statistically justified) from the Copper and Blue compared him to Ryan Kesler. I might compare him to Shawn Horcoff or Jarret Stoll.
- Morris

I was thinking a winger version of Stoll. I don't know how good he is at center at this point.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 4:49 PM ET
FYI here are the OKC lines for whoever was asking

Magnus Paajarvi-Josh Green-Teemu Hartikainen
Antti Tyrvainen-Mark Arcobello-Tyler Pitlick
Philippe Cornet-Anton Lander-Ryan Keller
Triston Grant-Chris VandeVelde-Tanner House

Dan Ringwald-Bryan Helmer
Bryan Rodney-Taylor Chorney
Dylan Yeo-Alex Plante
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 9 @ 4:52 PM ET
I was thinking a winger version of Stoll. I don't know how good he is at center at this point.
- Lahey

Various Edmonton media suggested he might be more comfortable playing center. I've almost exclusively seen him on the wing though, so that might be where he ends up.

This whole conversation went completely off the rails. All I was trying to get at is that the Oilers have the pieces to get Stewart, and that I don't think they'd have to overpay to get him. I'm with you though, if the price is too high, we'd be better to pass.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 4:54 PM ET
Various Edmonton media suggested he might be more comfortable playing center. I've almost exclusively seen him on the wing though, so that might be where he ends up.

This whole conversation went completely off the rails. All I was trying to get at is that the Oilers have the pieces to get Stewart, and that I don't think they'd have to overpay to get him. I'm with you though, if the price is too high, we'd be better to pass.

- Morris

He's played all 3 positions and is excelling on the right side right now. It also depends which Edmonton media you speak of, some don't even know that he is playing wing.

With that being said, off the rails? This whole thread is off the rails.
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 9 @ 5:31 PM ET
When we bench Gagner in a season where he plays terribly and is due a raise and we're shopping him, those are some of the offers I'd expect to get.

Although you're speaking hyperbolically, as Reasoner and a 4th are the bottom of the barrel in terms of what we were suggesting.

- Morris


Brock Nelson, Marty Reasoner and a 4th = Pitlick, Belanger, Omark.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 5:34 PM ET
Brock Nelson, Marty Reasoner and a 4th = Pitlick, Belanger, Omark.
- Zombie

Pitlick>Nelson
Belanger>Reasoner
Omark, okay he's greater than nothing
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 9 @ 5:37 PM ET
Pitlick>Nelson
Belanger>Reasoner
Omark, okay he's greater than nothing

- Lahey


How on earth is Pitlick > Nelson?

Belanger migh be a bit more value then Reasoner, but I'd also argue Omark is worth less then a 4th.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 5:42 PM ET
How on earth is Pitlick > Nelson?

Belanger migh be a bit more value then Reasoner, but I'd also argue Omark is worth less then a 4th.

- Zombie

Pitlick is good.
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 9 @ 5:45 PM ET
Pitlick is good.
- Lahey

Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 5:47 PM ET

- Zombie



I could use your flawed stats and say Nelson has no points in this year's AHL playoffs and Pitlick is PPG.

At this point they are probably quite equal though.
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 9 @ 5:49 PM ET


I could use your flawed stats and say Nelson has no points in this year's AHL playoffs and Pitlick is PPG.

At this point they are probably quite equal though.

- Lahey


Exactly, and you wouldn't want to trade Gagner for Nelson, an old 4th liner and 4th/5th round pick.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 5:50 PM ET
Exactly, and you wouldn't want to trade Gagner for Nelson, an old 4th liner and 4th/5th round pick.
- Zombie

Gagner is a different scenario than Stewart though. Gagner has a role on our team and we don't need to move him.
Seldom Beaton
Location: Cincinatti
Joined: 08.12.2006

May 9 @ 6:31 PM ET
Various Edmonton media suggested he might be more comfortable playing center.

Various Edmonton media think that Omark can be qualified then left hanging.
Or think that Hall, Eberle & Hopkins will be the Oilers Numba 1 line for the next dozen years.
Or that getting Jones means that Tambo isn’t completely hopeless.
And so on.
And on.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

May 9 @ 7:14 PM ET
Various Edmonton media suggested he might be more comfortable playing center.

Various Edmonton media think that Omark can be qualified then left hanging.
Or think that Hall, Eberle & Hopkins will be the Oilers Numba 1 line for the next dozen years.
Or that getting Jones means that Tambo isn’t completely hopeless.
And so on.
And on.

- Seldom Beaton

This doesn't even have a point. Shut up.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 9 @ 7:20 PM ET
This doesn't even have a point. Shut up.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


thefullnelson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.03.2012

May 9 @ 8:50 PM ET
He's played all 3 positions and is excelling on the right side right now. It also depends which Edmonton media you speak of, some don't even know that he is playing wing.

With that being said, off the rails? This whole thread is off the rails.

- Lahey

lol at least it's still about hockey, and not calling one another names!
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 10 @ 9:51 AM ET
Brock Nelson, Marty Reasoner and a 4th = Pitlick, Belanger, Omark.
- Zombie

cool, so as I said hyperbolically lower in value than Pitlick, Jones and a 2nd.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 10 @ 9:51 AM ET
lol at least it's still about hockey, and not calling one another names!
- thefullnelson

way to gay it up
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 10 @ 8:36 PM ET
You aren't looking at this in the right way.

Stewart is a player who doesn't fit in with STL. He is a RFA that is going to have to be qualifed at over 3.3mil, that in itself hurts.

- Lahey


I think you are right. STL has to resign Perron and Oshie and for Stewart to maybe go to arbitration, he will be given the same for one year. Not sure does STL want to give Stewart $3M+ anymore, rather split that amount and give them to Perron and Oshie plus have to resign or replace Arnott.
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